Why so many negative comments about living in the City of Irvine?

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I came across this link to get some unbiased feedback about living in Irvine. I am suprised to see that there are more negative than positive comments. Many are saying that Irvine is stale, boring, lacks character, pesonality and culture. Many are also saying that Irvine is not a people friendly place. Are these comments pretty accurate?

I find these comments really valuable to compare with the lifestyle of the midwest.



<a href="http://moneyfeatures.blogs.money.cnn.com/2008/07/11/best-places-to-live-2008-no-4-town/">What people are saying about Living in Irvine</a>

http://moneyfeatures.blogs.money.cnn.com/2008/07/11/best-places-to-live-2008-no-4-town/



What do you think of the No. 4 town on this year?s Best Places to Live list? What makes it a great American town? Are real estate prices reasonable? How are the schools? What activities and events does it offer? Is it a place where you can live a low-stress life? If you don?t live there now, would you consider moving there? Tell us what you think. The best replies will be published here, and possibly in a future story on CNNMoney.com.



Irvine Ca is just one big strip mall. Like most of Southern Ca (sans San Giego), Irvine lacks any character. It is clean, the area is prosperous, and the weather is great but the materialistic nature of southern cal is exemplified in Irvine.



Posted By Mark, Santa Rosa, Ca: November 25, 2008 9:11 pm

we lived in irvine for 11 years and moved to fairfax, va a few years back. Main reasons?.the irvine bubble?the children were too sheltered and grew up with a sense of upper middle class entitlement that was getting in the way of basic objectivity??the school system has taken a massive tanking?though the elementary schools are still good the middle and high school have a lot of good teachers that left and the replacements are not of the same caliber?. the school system has cut so many corners over the past years that the quality is not the same?a lot of our friends have left irvine?.

the multiethnic mix is no longer a mix?everyone clusters about in their own little ethnic groups and refuses to acknowledge people not from their cliques?the PTAs? are no longer harmonious and petty frustrations abound?.the swim teams have become positively poisonous?.it is not what the irvine it used to be?.the new immigration mix is too rife with pettiness of all kinds?.



but?the restuarants are great, shopping fabulous and the beaches not too far away?but how much money will you have left over after the high mortgages?..



Posted By irvine, ca: October 7, 2008 11:10 am

Irvine is the place to be if you have a child with Autism. they have the resources, therapy, and schools.



Posted By Sylvia, Fontana, CA: September 25, 2008 10:47 am

As a native orange county person, Irvine has always be a joke among us. It was developed by one big company, The Irvine Company so of course, it is safe and clean and very boring?as of schools, it may be good but how many actually are well known musicians or doctors ..the same percentage as any other good school system in U.S. so in the end, it doesnt matter where one lives but how one lives. I now live in England where my children are doing very well.



Posted By Lynn Hnat, Kenilworth, England: September 23, 2008 7:25 am

serious? im looking to leave the area?great if you like a starter home for 700k, packed freeways, rude people, strip malls, tourist.



Posted By scott, irvine, ca: September 14, 2008 10:49 pm

I too say look at Yorba Linda, Anaheim Hills, Orange Park Acres, Villa Park. Brea, in north Orange County, is a nice blend of bang for your buck- great schools, nice neighborhoods, safe, low crime and very ?with-it? city although smaller at 38,000. Brea has been rated one of the best small cities in country.



Posted By Robert, Brea, CA: September 10, 2008 11:52 am

Many of the statements here are complaining of things that you should be looking for in a city. Bottom line, any place you would call your home town should be safe, clean, and why not ?Perfect?.

I live 50 miles from Irvine and commute there to play hockey at

The 949 Roller Hockey Center. This facility is truely one of the perks of the city as it is one the best roller hockey facilties in the nation.

The city is also centralized with a short commute to beaches, mountains, city life, and amusement parks in any direction.



Posted By EJ, Upland California: September 10, 2008 1:48 am

nice place for now, with kids enjoying excellent schools and outdoors. but, we ARE MOVING OUT WHEN OUR KIDS HAVE GROWN - boring place, no soul, sometimes i wish there were some ?chaos? on these streets..



Posted By bob, irvine, ca: September 9, 2008 2:36 pm

My family moved away from Irvine 14 years ago because of the terrible traffic. I love being out of Irvine!



Posted By Kathy Cannon, Atascadero, Ca: September 8, 2008 9:18 pm

I find it very immature that the people who live in Irvine and love it claim that those who criticize it are people trying to get ?in?. That just goes to show the type of mentality that brews there.



Logically, it isn?t for everybody. People are different and look for the type of environment that will best fit them and their families. As a person born in O.C. who was relocated to San Diego(but attended UC Irvine), I cannot believe this is the only California place that made it on the list! What were they thinking? Yes, safety and public schools are important, but so are raising your children having contact with real world California.



I would never move there again, even if you paid me a hundred thousand dollar salary. Irvine is so sterile a place it is scary. There is very little interaction with people, and everyone looks the same. Diversity? Hah! Don?t make me laugh.



For anyone considering moving to California, San Diego is the perfect place. You can get a small town feel in many areas, the schools are decent, and you actually have culture. The people are friendly and more down to earth too. None of this snooty stuff.



Also, SDSU and UCSD ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE BREATHING, LIVELY, COLLEGE CAMPUSES. I ended up transferring to UCSD, best decision I ever made.



Posted By LW, San Diego, CA.: September 8, 2008 12:06 pm

irvine is great if you hate back yards



Posted By P.B., Santa Ana, CA: August 29, 2008 5:46 pm

Oh, Irvine! I think I speak for a lot of Californians when I say that I have a love/hate relationship with Irvine. Many of you making comments are nailing it right on the head: Irvine is a very pleasant town for families, but pretty boring for young adults. The city just doesn?t have much personality. And I would question the ?diversity? statistics. From what I?ve seen, it?s all white and Asian. I have friends that live in the area who say they rarely see black or latino people.



The streets or Irvine are clean and well kept. But it?s just too boring. Too sterile. No personality. I?ve lived in Southern California all my life until a year ago, when I moved to San Francisco. I don?t know if I would want to settle down up here (expensive in the city, plus I?m far from my family) but I?ll take an afternoon at Dolores Park over an afternoon in Irvine ANY day.



But Irvine, again, is definitely well-kept, spacious, and temperate.



Posted By Brian, California: August 27, 2008 8:18 pm

How can you include Irvine, CA as a ?best place? when housing is so overpriced. A 3 bedroom for a$700,000 is not affordable to at least 95% of Americans. There are many other places in America that are nice places to raise a family and be able to afford a house.



Posted By Kim, Tustin, CA: August 1, 2008 10:10 am

Irvine is riduculously perfect. Its so perfect, that we occassionally need to go slumming in other cities. Everything here is almost exactly as it should be (whether we like it or not). There is no better place to raise a family.



Posted By Eric, Irvine, Ca: July 31, 2008 3:52 pm

What part of Irvine is a ?Small City?? It is a nice area if you don?t mind crowds, but I would more likely consider Ft Collins a small city than Irvine



Posted By Kyle, Houston, Texas: July 31, 2008 2:20 pm

Can Diane from Orange County please list more places to consider apart from Tustin, Yorba Linda etc. Good schools are important but a vibrant community is just as key ? I will be moving my family to OC from Asia next year.



Posted By Tina, Singapore, Singnapore: July 29, 2008 11:26 am

Irvine is an ideal city for a family. Singles by find themsselves bored and yearning for the ?big city life? as there isn?t much in the way of entertainment for singles- everything in Irvine is targeted at the family unit. That being said, it IS one of the safest, nicest, cleanest, and best places to live- It?s also overpriced.. But you get what you pay for. But it beats paying $1 mill in NYC, right?



Depending on your priorities, Irvine is a great place to live



Posted By Jim Laguna hills, CA: July 28, 2008 11:56 am

We moved to Irvine in ?03 with our child. I won?t say whether we like it here, that would be pointless. Just because we love it doesn?t mean you will, or vice versa.



As for the experience these words come to mind; pleasant, beautiful, civilized. Some say it?s perfect?the weather for sure. But that?s a problem. It never rains, that?s no exaggeration. We desparately need rain.



Without a doubt Irvine is for families with children. There are countless activities and programs for kids.





Location? Look at a map. LA to the north San Diego to the south, Inland Empire to the east and very nice beaches to the west within a minutes.



The school system if it is stellar relies on what parents are doing at home and their involvement in the system itself. Our child has never enrolled in a NYC public school but I?m quite certain Irvine wins hands down. The smiles on my child?s face says it all.



Housing? Yes it?s not cheap but it is trending south.
 
[quote author="Stuff It" date=1228390278]Sounds about right</blockquote>


What do you think about San Diego? Is there personality and culture there? Now, I am starting to understand what Maestro was saying before about missing the midwest.
 
San Diego is a big place, not really fair to compare the City of Irvine to San Diego. What are you looking for Panda? Personally, Irvine isn't my ideal city but I have many friends who think it's perfect for them and have lived there for many years. We're all different, I'm just not sure what you want from a city.
 
[quote author="ABC123" date=1228391727]<em>"the restuarants are great, shopping fabulous"</em>



Are we talking about the same Irvine?</blockquote>


Probably talking about areas around Irvine. It is in a good location for Newport Beach and South Coast, but good restaurants in Irvine? Not many
 
[quote author="PANDA" date=1228390515][quote author="Stuff It" date=1228390278]Sounds about right</blockquote>


What do you think about San Diego? Is there personality and culture there? Now, I am starting to understand what Maestro was saying before about missing the midwest.</blockquote>


Sorry, dont know San Diego. We are looking in Irvine because that is where my job is and schools for the kids. For various reasons we can't buy south of Irvine otherwise I would
 
Living in Irvine is really about convenience. Everywhere in Irvine, you are within 5 minutes of any consumer good you could ever want. The city is crossed by several major highways, so you have quick and easy access to everything. It is clean, safe, and well-manicured. It is perfect to a fault: it is boring.



I have heard Irvine described this way: Its a boring place to visit, but I would really want to live there. It is the antithesis of everything you find in the nearby beach towns.
 
Wow, Panda. I don't know. As much disdain as I have for superficiality, Irvine does have a ton of great things going for it. I find it laughable how mistaken some of those people are. Sylvia from Fontana (a.k.a. "Fontucky") claims there aren't any notable people originating from Irvine's schools? Yeah, right. Take a look at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irvine,_California">this link</a> under "Notable Natives and Residents" and go ahead and see how many were raised in Irvine. You will find more than one Olympic gold medalist, several MLB players, famous actors, and well-known musicians. I also have no idea what they are talking about when they say it lacks diversity. Example: My son's classroom contains kids who are white, black, middle-Eastern, Hispanic, and Asians from several different countries. My (white) son currently has two best friends - one boy whose mother is from Kenya and the other boy was born in Pakistan. What part of that lacks diversity? I'd really like to know. You have to wonder how many of those people have even lived in Irvine or if they are just going off of what's displayed on "Real Housewives of The O.C.". I was born and raised in Yorba Linda, was a Tustin resident for several years so I can compare it to those areas. I've also spent the last 5 years exiled to the Inland Empire and I am finally back. I can't tell you how good it feels to be home. It has given me a heightened appreciation for how good we have it here. That's all I can say.
 
[quote author="IrvineRenter" date=1228395035]Living in Irvine is really about convenience. Everywhere in Irvine, you are within 5 minutes of any consumer good you could ever want. The city is crossed by several major highways, so you have quick and easy access to everything. It is clean, safe, and well-manicured. It is perfect to a fault: it is boring.



I have heard Irvine described this way: Its a boring place to visit, but I would really want to live there. It is the antithesis of everything you find in the nearby beach towns.</blockquote>


I agree with convenience, safety, cleanliness--it's a great city! But I must say...I really do not understand the fascination with Irvine. If I were handed a chunk of $$$ to buy a house in Orange County. I would never instinctively think of Irvine. I would consider NB, CdM, Newport Coast, Laguna Beach, I would probably even consider Talega and eastside Costa Mesa before Irvine. Like I said, Irvine is a great city, but I (personally) would choose others. Like multiple people have said, it is really up to the individual, this is so true. I love visiting friend's houses and seeing how different their neighborhoods are. Not better or worse, just different, and most importantly how happy my friends are in their home. :)
 
Compared with Chicago Irvine is both the same and different. If you pick a suburb of Chicago that is affluent and has a heavy asian mix (i.e. Glenview) you can say they both lack excitement, have pretty good asian food nearby, have great schools and safe streets. In Glenview you have access to the city within 20 minutes or so drive, but in Irvine you are a solid hour + from LA. Any affluent suburb in Chicago is equally competitive in the schools and in sports compared with Irvine. Also, the city of Irvine is about the same size as the whole North Shore of Chicago lumped together. You could take Wilmette, Winnetka, Glencoe, Highland Park, Lake Forest, and you probably would equal half of the population of Irvine.



In both Chicago and Irvine you will find cliques of people that are 1st generation Korean, Chinese, Indian, etc. I imagine in the schools it is much less of an issue. For the parents they may take more comfort in being around people that speak the same native language. For me the main draw to Irvine over Glenview or Naperville or any similarly boring Chicago suburb is weather, coastal proximity, and outdoors activities. It is true that surrounding communities are perhaps more culturally stimulating (Newport Beach, Laguna Beach) or closer to the beach, but people move to Irvine for the schools, the job centers, and safety. Chicago is a much better city than LA but only for 8 months out of the year.
 
Panda...I think you are suffering from paralysis by analysis. Forget Aliso Viejo. Forget San Diego. Based on everything you have ever posted here, Irvine is your place my man. Go read the comments on ANY of the top cities on that survey -- people are crapping on all of them. It's human nature to beat up the winner (why is that place better than my place?). Irvine is NOT for everyone, and I would never recommend it to everyone. But if you fit TIC's target demographic (and I think you do) then you will find it to be paradise here. So just stop analyzing and pack up the moving van and move out here.
 
<strong>"Posted By Lynn Hnat, Kenilworth, England: September 23, 2008 7:25 am

serious? im looking to leave the area?great if you like a starter home for 700k, packed freeways, rude people, strip malls, tourist."</strong>



I couldn't help laugh at that bit from Panda's original posting, Kenilworth is about 10 miles from where I grew up and well over 6000 miles from Irvine...and by the way, how does one pronounce a name like "Hnat"? Oh, wait, I must be one of the rude People She was talking about..;-)



Panda, Irvine is an awesome place to live, I don't give a Rats ass what anyone else says but I will say this, don't move here, Irvine has enough People already..



I'm sure you'd love Sandiego or LA, or better still, Kenilworth.....



<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Ken_clock_12g06.JPG/800px-" alt="" />
 
[quote author="PeterUK" date=1228406845]<strong>"Posted By Lynn Hnat, Kenilworth, England: September 23, 2008 7:25 am

serious? im looking to leave the area?great if you like a starter home for 700k, packed freeways, rude people, strip malls, tourist."</strong>



I couldn't help laugh at that bit from Panda's original posting, Kenilworth is about 10 miles from where I grew up and well over 6000 miles from Irvine...and by the way, how does one pronounce a name like "Hnat"? Oh, wait, I must be one of the rude People She was talking about..;-)



Panda, Irvine is an awesome place to live, I don't give a Rats ass what anyone else says but I will say this, don't move here, Irvine has enough People already..



I'm sure you'd love Sandiego or LA, or better still, Kenilworth.....

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That does look like a very cool city...especially that miniature cathedral in the traffic median. Try finding something like THAT in Irvine! ;-)
 
[quote author="CK" date=1228404070]Panda...I think you are suffering from paralysis by analysis. Forget Aliso Viejo. Forget San Diego. Based on everything you have ever posted here, Irvine is your place my man. Go read the comments on ANY of the top cities on that survey -- people are crapping on all of them. It's human nature to beat up the winner (why is that place better than my place?). Irvine is NOT for everyone, and I would never recommend it to everyone. But if you fit TIC's target demographic (and I think you do) then you will find it to be paradise here. So just stop analyzing and pack up the moving van and move out here.</blockquote>


I think you are right CK. Probably the only reason why im looking at AV and SD is because of what i can buy for the square footage. I've been to San Diego before and was a little disappointed with the strong military presence and all the strips clubs around the area. I drove up to Poway, it was a bit nicer, but location wise it was too inland, hot, and far away from the airport. Though I make funny jokes about Koreans and Chinese, I really like Asians and love being around them. I thank God everyday that I was born Asian American and not White. Irvine seems to be a melting pot of all races, and that is what i like.



CK, I think i am struggling with paralysis by analysis after reading what i had written down in my sketch book two years ago.



Panda wrote:

I had my eye on Irvine from the time I had my first job in 1998. I was young, and I had a lot of energy. I?m basically an optimist, and frankly, I see the greatest recession in Orange County a great opportunity for me to make my move.



There is absolutely no doubt as to where I wanted to live while I chased my dreams: Irvine, California. Living in Irvine had been a dream of mine for 10 years. Way back when I was working for an consulting company in Los Angeles and stopped by over to Irvine and told myself, ?Someday, when I can afford to live wherever I want, I?m going to build my business and live here. I?ve always believed that Irvine is going to the best place to live.



I guess i just confirmed my own doubts. Thanks. Hmmm. Perhaps i should submit this comment to Money Magazine: Greatest Places to Live. :)



I've got five dudes painting my house right now and the stager is coming in this weekend. Man, i knew I should of done this a year ago. IPO, man.. only if you sold your home in 2007 and I would learned the correct way to sell my house in 2008 from you and IR2. There is nothing i can do about my wrong doings in the past, I can only control the outcome of the future :)
 
[quote author="skek" date=1228404994]CK is right, Panda. Don't over think this. You've visited Irvine -- how did it feel to you? Could you imagine yourself living there with your future Panda cubs? If so, pull the trigger with no regrets. Besides, you've already got IHB friends here. We won't visit you as much if you moved to San Diego. And I promise that Graph will behave if you invite him over for a BBQ. You can ask as many questions as you want.</blockquote>


Once I invite Graph for a Bulgogi BBQ Party, he is going to have two Korean best friends.
 
i dont put too much weight in a lot of forum comments except those here. similar to when you're looking at user comments for a movie review. most of the time the only people who bother leaving a comment are the fanboys who say, "indiana jones 4 rules A++++!" or conversely morons who leave comments like, "dark knight? i didn't like the ending. worst movie EVER!"



the people who actually like living in irvine are busy with their jobs, families, and despite all thats transpired in the past several yrs, a relatively cushy lifestyle -- all of which has a tremendous cost. in other words, they've put their money where their mouth is and that speaks for itself.
 
[quote author="acpme" date=1228432335]i dont put too much weight in a lot of forum comments except those here. </blockquote>


QFT. There are a couple of boards I frequent that the comments are worthy of action. IHB is one.



Good or bad, you'll know everything you probablly need to know to get started here.
 
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