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jmoney74
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I think the gated TUSD side will have great value.. they will be the snobs of the community.
"oh.. you live outside there?"
"oh.. you live outside there?"
Who is waiting for Orchard Hills?
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But that doesn't explain Portola Springs... especially because Lambert Ranch is the same location but sold better.
I don't know anything beyond backyard cultivation of fruit trees - are avocado orchard workers typically around on a daily basis? I could see how there would be flurries of activity during pruning, fertilization, and harvesting periods but otherwise I'm thinking that it should be quiet?
Also, my impression is that workers wouldn't stay in one place for an extended period like they would on a construction site. Otherwise, the same type of analogy could apply to HOA gardeners, tree trimmers, maintenance folks, etc. but that doesn't seem to bother anyone or affect crime (as far as I know)?
HILL + GATE = $
That means the non-gated side of OH is in trouble.
I'm pretty sure non-Grove homes are out of luck when the zombies attack.
If the majority of the HOA members vote for gates, then it can be done. The Hawks Pointe development in Fullerton did exactly this. If members of the HOA believe the values of their home will increase significantly if gates were installed there would be no reason not to do it. Laguna altura and Lamber Ranch are good examples of how home values appreciate with guard gates.
irvinehomeowner
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I'm not as cynical as OS but I am not impressed by OH.
I haven't seen the models in person yet but the floorplans are retreads and based on reviews from members here, not too different from what we've seen before.
I personally think the prices are outrageous but since some have said that phases have already sold out, it must be an FCB thing.
I haven't seen the models in person yet but the floorplans are retreads and based on reviews from members here, not too different from what we've seen before.
I personally think the prices are outrageous but since some have said that phases have already sold out, it must be an FCB thing.
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jmoney74
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FCBs will tend to buy on a hill.. that's just something they like. OH sales will do fine I think.
As for the common home buyer.. I think you go Groves or not at all. Probably better options over at CV, SG, and PP.
As for the common home buyer.. I think you go Groves or not at all. Probably better options over at CV, SG, and PP.
irvinehomeowner
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So that explains LagAlt.jmoney74 said:
But that doesn't explain Portola Springs... especially because Lambert Ranch is the same location but sold better.
irvinehomeshopper
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Those Santa Ana migrant farmers working in the avocado grove will just wander over to burglarize your home when you and your wife must work and can't stay home to guard your McMansion.
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Well this one is going to sting. "Working Orchard" will go from a marketing gimmick to a class action lawsuit within a decade. Why the hell would someone want to live where they will spray pesticides day and night? Where there are disclosed mosquito and coyote issues? Where trucks, laborers and pumps can run whenever they damn well choose, accessing FROM WITHIN THE GATES?!! I thought NP's gates were a false sense of security; imagine how many avocado trucks filled with laborers will get waved on through every.single.day.
It's half-arsed all right. Especially on the non-gated side. Amenities are weak sauce and feel rushed; on par with CV and sub-WB and NP. "Luxury" isn't what comes to mind -- "mediocre" is what I see. Strada being scoreless after opening weekend and hype for months (I counted 18 emails from when I registered) with an interest list at nearly 30,000... it speaks volumes.
Said it before, saying it again: this is a tale of two villages -- those with a view, and those without. Otherwise it's a pass.
OH = Over Hyped.
I called flattening and possibly discounts within a few phases. It may not even take that.
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thatOSguy said:
Well this one is going to sting. "Working Orchard" will go from a marketing gimmick to a class action lawsuit within a decade. Why the hell would someone want to live where they will spray pesticides day and night? Where there are disclosed mosquito and coyote issues? Where trucks, laborers and pumps can run whenever they damn well choose, accessing FROM WITHIN THE GATES?!! I thought NP's gates were a false sense of security; imagine how many avocado trucks filled with laborers will get waved on through every.single.day.
jmoney74 said:
It's half-arsed all right. Especially on the non-gated side. Amenities are weak sauce and feel rushed; on par with CV and sub-WB and NP. "Luxury" isn't what comes to mind -- "mediocre" is what I see. Strada being scoreless after opening weekend and hype for months (I counted 18 emails from when I registered) with an interest list at nearly 30,000... it speaks volumes.
Said it before, saying it again: this is a tale of two villages -- those with a view, and those without. Otherwise it's a pass.
OH = Over Hyped.
I called flattening and possibly discounts within a few phases. It may not even take that.
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You really have a lot of negatives working against Strada:
1. Tiny little lots (or should I say "NO" backyards)
2. Overpriced (Price per SF is the same a the much luxurious guard gated side Groves.)
3. Split school districts
4. Small loft/bonus room
TIC/IP will need to lower prices or provide incentives for people to take the bite on Strada.
1. Tiny little lots (or should I say "NO" backyards)
2. Overpriced (Price per SF is the same a the much luxurious guard gated side Groves.)
3. Split school districts
4. Small loft/bonus room
TIC/IP will need to lower prices or provide incentives for people to take the bite on Strada.
homer_simpson
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FCBS don't work so they are home all day to guard their piles of cash hidden under their mattresses. They also stay home and hang their clothes by their california room, spit on driveways, smoke cigarettes and throw them in your driveway, talk obnoxiously loud, roll their F'ing RRRR's when speaking... so annoying!
Orchard Hills??? More like Oriental Hills! ugh
Orchard Hills??? More like Oriental Hills! ugh
thatOSguy said:
I don't know anything beyond backyard cultivation of fruit trees - are avocado orchard workers typically around on a daily basis? I could see how there would be flurries of activity during pruning, fertilization, and harvesting periods but otherwise I'm thinking that it should be quiet?
Also, my impression is that workers wouldn't stay in one place for an extended period like they would on a construction site. Otherwise, the same type of analogy could apply to HOA gardeners, tree trimmers, maintenance folks, etc. but that doesn't seem to bother anyone or affect crime (as far as I know)?
homer_simpson
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I dont live in Irvine anymore... I live in JC... Weather is gorgeous here and I get a full driveway 
irvinehomeowner
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Aha... so:lnc said:
HILL + GATE = $
That means the non-gated side of OH is in trouble.
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
If it's not gated now, it won't be gated later.AA said:
I'm pretty sure non-Grove homes are out of luck when the zombies attack.
irvinehomeowner said:
If the majority of the HOA members vote for gates, then it can be done. The Hawks Pointe development in Fullerton did exactly this. If members of the HOA believe the values of their home will increase significantly if gates were installed there would be no reason not to do it. Laguna altura and Lamber Ranch are good examples of how home values appreciate with guard gates.