Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
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I have respect for veteran/soldier and I understand what they sacrifice to bring peace. I support to have a veteran cemetery.
However, why in Irvine? We, Asian, are afraid of ghost and Irvine is 40~50% Asian. Why can't the veteran cemetery in the Non-Asian community?
How do the homes sell around Rose Hills?
Couldn't your comments could apply equally to police and firemen?
Regardless of their motives, or level of intelligence, they volunteered and gave their lives fighting for your freedom to do things like express your thoughts and feelings on message boards.
If a janitor or farmer sacrificed their lives, yes, it would be appropriate for the benefited to show their appreciation.
Since, you and I and all americans have benefited from the veterans' sacrifice, it is appropriate for all of us to show our appreciation. IMO
Unfortunately, most people have no idea what others have sacrificed and assume they are simply entitled to everything this country provides.
You cannot force anyone to be appreciative, so I won't try. But realize that your freedom was not a gift, it was hard fought and won.
The US BENEFITED from cheap food/vegetables. Due to the cheap labor of farm workers. Do you think it's fun working in the sun or poor working conditions or working for less than minimum wage? I never heard of them complaining for a memorial.
Another thing I would like to add: farm workers who picked vegetables are exposed to pesticides
i grew up in a farming community where it gets to 120 degrees in the summer. these guys bust their ass for minimum wage or less wearing long sleeve shirts because the direct sun is even worse. my dad was also a laborer. blew out his back in his late 40s from constantly being bent over picking vegetables his whole life making minimum wage. he also severed the tips of two fingers. blown out back and severed finger tips, made for a great quality of life up until he died in 2012, like eyephone said, where is his memorial?
i think you are trying to get others to embrace your thoughts and beliefs. its too bad you cant see that everyone is different and value different things. i value all humans the same, you apparently dont. and thats fine. we are all entitled to our own opinions. just dont try to push them on me or others.
How do you define "next to your house?" Probably going to be a good distance from PP, maybe the same or greater than Musick.
If the jail didn't bother buyers I'm sure the cemetery won't.
Besides, we all complain that FCBs keep driving up prices in Irvine, if they're scared off by a few dead soldiers, then that means more affordable homes for the rest of us patriotic 'Mericans!
If the jail didn't bother buyers I'm sure the cemetery won't.
Besides, we all complain that FCBs keep driving up prices in Irvine, if they're scared off by a few dead soldiers, then that means more affordable homes for the rest of us patriotic 'Mericans!
irvinehomeshopper
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Applaud for the Five Points thinking about what is right for People rather than what is right for the pocket book. I am glad that finally a sliver of Irvine finally has some sort of dignity.
O Hills said:
I have respect for veteran/soldier and I understand what they sacrifice to bring peace. I support to have a veteran cemetery.
However, why in Irvine? We, Asian, are afraid of ghost and Irvine is 40~50% Asian. Why can't the veteran cemetery in the Non-Asian community?
qwerty
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This is probably not going to come off as very PC but I've never been a big fan if honoring one group of people over another, like eye phone said, why should a soldiers life be considered more honorable than a janitor, retail clerk, fast food worker, white collar worker, etc. also, let's not pretend that most soldiers join the military because they love this country and want to protect it. There probably are some but most aren't that altruistic. A lot of soldiers are people who were not, by societies standard, very smart and had no other choice but to join the military. I will say though that I don't think a lot of soldiers are appropriately taken care of by the govt when they come back after actually serving in actual combat.
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jmoney74
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qwerty said:
How do the homes sell around Rose Hills?
qwerty said:
Couldn't your comments could apply equally to police and firemen?
Regardless of their motives, or level of intelligence, they volunteered and gave their lives fighting for your freedom to do things like express your thoughts and feelings on message boards.
If a janitor or farmer sacrificed their lives, yes, it would be appropriate for the benefited to show their appreciation.
Since, you and I and all americans have benefited from the veterans' sacrifice, it is appropriate for all of us to show our appreciation. IMO
Unfortunately, most people have no idea what others have sacrificed and assume they are simply entitled to everything this country provides.
You cannot force anyone to be appreciative, so I won't try. But realize that your freedom was not a gift, it was hard fought and won.
qwerty
Well-known member
I do feel the same way about police officers and firefighters. And I do think intent should be considered. Who should I be more grateful to, a screw up, who had no where else to go, joins the military and ends up in fighting in a war or someone like pat Tillman who could have played in the nfl and made the choice to go fight for his country. That i think is truly honorable, the other guy not so much.
O Hills said:
The US BENEFITED from cheap food/vegetables. Due to the cheap labor of farm workers. Do you think it's fun working in the sun or poor working conditions or working for less than minimum wage? I never heard of them complaining for a memorial.
Another thing I would like to add: farm workers who picked vegetables are exposed to pesticides
qwerty
Well-known member
eyephone said:
i grew up in a farming community where it gets to 120 degrees in the summer. these guys bust their ass for minimum wage or less wearing long sleeve shirts because the direct sun is even worse. my dad was also a laborer. blew out his back in his late 40s from constantly being bent over picking vegetables his whole life making minimum wage. he also severed the tips of two fingers. blown out back and severed finger tips, made for a great quality of life up until he died in 2012, like eyephone said, where is his memorial?
irvinehomeshopper
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It didn't during the 70's when the Rose Hill community started. No Asians live in Whittier! They all live all around the Holy Temple in Hacienda Hts.
jmoney74 said:
It's a sad commentary that you believe picking vegetables is comparable to war.
There is nothing I can do to talk sense to those so divorced from reality.
I don't mean that as a cheap insult, just that your comments reflect that you have aboslutely no idea what war is like.
That you have been spared the horror of war is completely lost on you.
There is nothing I can do to talk sense to those so divorced from reality.
I don't mean that as a cheap insult, just that your comments reflect that you have aboslutely no idea what war is like.
That you have been spared the horror of war is completely lost on you.
qwerty
Well-known member
O Hills said:
i think you are trying to get others to embrace your thoughts and beliefs. its too bad you cant see that everyone is different and value different things. i value all humans the same, you apparently dont. and thats fine. we are all entitled to our own opinions. just dont try to push them on me or others.