United Airlines Violently Drags Doctor Off Flight Volunteer Not to Give Up Seat
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I came from a lower middle class background myself. While it is certainly true that there are plenty of people who don't earn a lot of money who are very good decent people, and there are also wealthy jerks and criminals, one can not dispute the fact that housing projects in many many places have turned into hellholes. City after city. The thugs terrorize the law abiding citizens in the projects. Do you have personal experience with this? I do; I know what I'm talking about.
I'm surprised they are not saying, "Asian, 69 year old senior citizen, father of 5, doctor" blah blah..
Journalism is dead. There is always an agenda.I am condemning the use of force to remove passengers from the plane. But I don't know whether he was unruly prior to the incident. One way or the other, bad PR and United will have to pay big time.
But keep in mind, this "doctor" is not a role model and he was a criminal.
It does not change the fact he was dragged out.
However, we don't have any video of what transpired when they first asked him to leave and why they had to call security.
I ask about his claim of being a doctor and needing to see patients the next day as to discover more about his character.
As morekaos has said, we are only getting one side of this story and while that side is reprehensible, I still like to know all the facts.
Oh, I get it, Since this "doctor" is not a role model and criminal he deserves that treatment? Same way "blacks that give attitude to cops deserves to beaten and die? same way a provocative female dressee deserves to be raped?
You can't blame the victim here whether he was belligerent or not, whether he is a criminal or not, whether you think his reason for not wanting to give up his seat is valid or not.
The witness interview just said he couldn't leave because
He has to see patients the next day. UA said they would call security and he said fine. Didn't mention him being obnoxious.
Seeing patients the next day is not an emergency. But it is irrelevant. He paid for the ticket and he should not be forced to leave once he is on the plane. Even though I heard he was off the plane initially and sneaked back in.
The point is him being a doctor is irrelevant on this saga. But the reports seem like it's a big deal that he is.
Never lived in the "projects" but did live out of a motel for months in Artesia (now rebuilt Days Inn on Pioneer) back when the Stater Brothers was Alpha Beta in 1980s, just before Diho Supermarket opened by Pioneer and 183rd. Then moved to cheap apartment by Lakewood/Hawaiian Gardens border for few years.
The city of Hawaiian Gardens is only about 1 square mile and their kids went to my HS (Artesia HS). The local Latino Gang ("HG") mostly left others alone unless if you're black, they competed against black gangs and fights weren't pretty. The cops were jerks to everyone who was poor or lived in poorer areas. Working on your car in the parking lot? Cops would pull up and make you put your hands on the hood while insisting that you must have a weapon or drugs somewhere.
By living in cheap apartments we were able to save enough in 4-5 years to put 20% down on our first town home in Burns Park.
This is one reason why I donate to Anaheim White House Caterina's Club (http://caterinasclub.org/) and support qualify affordable housing for people who are actually employed in the city. Bruno's restaurant went up in flames recently and he didn't stop feeding the motel kids despite the difficulty.
If you're good enough to teach my kids at school or bag my groceries, I think you're good enough to qualify for affordable housing in my city.
So his wife wasn't there? Was that misreported?
I want to see when he was first told to leave.
That scream was crazy.
I saw her leaving when he was dragged out. Not sure where she was before.
Also, there have been witness testimonies already. Everyone just remained silent when asked to give up their seats. Then he was asked.. got on the phone with them and said he can't because he has to be back (finding out that the next flight won't be until Monday).
momopi said:
I came from a lower middle class background myself. While it is certainly true that there are plenty of people who don't earn a lot of money who are very good decent people, and there are also wealthy jerks and criminals, one can not dispute the fact that housing projects in many many places have turned into hellholes. City after city. The thugs terrorize the law abiding citizens in the projects. Do you have personal experience with this? I do; I know what I'm talking about.
woodburyowner
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Movingup said:
I'm surprised they are not saying, "Asian, 69 year old senior citizen, father of 5, doctor" blah blah..
paydawg said:
Journalism is dead. There is always an agenda.I am condemning the use of force to remove passengers from the plane. But I don't know whether he was unruly prior to the incident. One way or the other, bad PR and United will have to pay big time.
But keep in mind, this "doctor" is not a role model and he was a criminal.
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
eyephone said:
It does not change the fact he was dragged out.
However, we don't have any video of what transpired when they first asked him to leave and why they had to call security.
I ask about his claim of being a doctor and needing to see patients the next day as to discover more about his character.
As morekaos has said, we are only getting one side of this story and while that side is reprehensible, I still like to know all the facts.
Irvine Dream
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Movingup said:
Oh, I get it, Since this "doctor" is not a role model and criminal he deserves that treatment? Same way "blacks that give attitude to cops deserves to beaten and die? same way a provocative female dressee deserves to be raped?
You can't blame the victim here whether he was belligerent or not, whether he is a criminal or not, whether you think his reason for not wanting to give up his seat is valid or not.
J
jmoney74
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Movingup said:
The witness interview just said he couldn't leave because
He has to see patients the next day. UA said they would call security and he said fine. Didn't mention him being obnoxious.
jmoney74 said:
Seeing patients the next day is not an emergency. But it is irrelevant. He paid for the ticket and he should not be forced to leave once he is on the plane. Even though I heard he was off the plane initially and sneaked back in.
The point is him being a doctor is irrelevant on this saga. But the reports seem like it's a big deal that he is.
J
jmoney74
Guest
https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-emerges-moments-doctor-dragged-154700153.html
well here it is.. wasn't acting all crazy.
well here it is.. wasn't acting all crazy.
Irvine man threatened by United last week.
http://www.latimes.com/business/laz...ed-low-priority-passenger-20170412-story.html
http://www.latimes.com/business/laz...ed-low-priority-passenger-20170412-story.html
momopi
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nyc to oc said:
Never lived in the "projects" but did live out of a motel for months in Artesia (now rebuilt Days Inn on Pioneer) back when the Stater Brothers was Alpha Beta in 1980s, just before Diho Supermarket opened by Pioneer and 183rd. Then moved to cheap apartment by Lakewood/Hawaiian Gardens border for few years.
The city of Hawaiian Gardens is only about 1 square mile and their kids went to my HS (Artesia HS). The local Latino Gang ("HG") mostly left others alone unless if you're black, they competed against black gangs and fights weren't pretty. The cops were jerks to everyone who was poor or lived in poorer areas. Working on your car in the parking lot? Cops would pull up and make you put your hands on the hood while insisting that you must have a weapon or drugs somewhere.
By living in cheap apartments we were able to save enough in 4-5 years to put 20% down on our first town home in Burns Park.
This is one reason why I donate to Anaheim White House Caterina's Club (http://caterinasclub.org/) and support qualify affordable housing for people who are actually employed in the city. Bruno's restaurant went up in flames recently and he didn't stop feeding the motel kids despite the difficulty.
If you're good enough to teach my kids at school or bag my groceries, I think you're good enough to qualify for affordable housing in my city.
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
jmoney74 said:
So his wife wasn't there? Was that misreported?
I want to see when he was first told to leave.
That scream was crazy.
YellowFever
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nosuchreality
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The media keeps glossing over saying "Police" the reality is the guy doing the dragging and seeming assault appears to have been just a private security guard working for the City Aviation Department. Here's the job req: https://chicago.taleo.net/careersection/100/jobdetail.ftl?job=99860&lang=en
So begs the question are the two guys in Police jackets really police or not. Begs the question why they're intervening in a private contract dispute.
Kind of explains why they didn't just "arrest" him, because they probably couldn't.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/69156...ter-united-airlines-passengerremoval-incident
People are mad at United, people should really be made at the whole a corporation called "the police" and the "the police" answer was to basically beat the guy.
So begs the question are the two guys in Police jackets really police or not. Begs the question why they're intervening in a private contract dispute.
Kind of explains why they didn't just "arrest" him, because they probably couldn't.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/69156...ter-united-airlines-passengerremoval-incident
People are mad at United, people should really be made at the whole a corporation called "the police" and the "the police" answer was to basically beat the guy.
J
jmoney74
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irvinehomeowner said:jmoney74 said:
So his wife wasn't there? Was that misreported?
I want to see when he was first told to leave.
That scream was crazy.
I saw her leaving when he was dragged out. Not sure where she was before.
Also, there have been witness testimonies already. Everyone just remained silent when asked to give up their seats. Then he was asked.. got on the phone with them and said he can't because he has to be back (finding out that the next flight won't be until Monday).
Dresden215
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So Dr. Dao was originally offered $800 to leave the plane.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/travel/questions-united-trnd/
The famous Robert Schiller was got $1350 for getting bumped off a United flight around two years ago, according to the market watch article below.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ev...-economists-get-bumped-off-flights-2015-09-26
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/travel/questions-united-trnd/
The famous Robert Schiller was got $1350 for getting bumped off a United flight around two years ago, according to the market watch article below.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ev...-economists-get-bumped-off-flights-2015-09-26