This is the beginning of the end...
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/kat-von-d-closing-her-195159201.html
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/kat-von-d-closing-her-195159201.html
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I think Texas would be a more likely landing spot since they already have restaurants there. One problem though is In-N-Out's image is tied to an idealized version of California car culture, palm trees, and hot rods. It might hurt their branding to leave the state.
Haven't checked in a while but last time I did, it costs $1300 for a one way UHaul to the zip I'm moving to in AZ and $200 from there to here one way. One way rentals include enough mileage to get u to the destination plus some extra.
It's literally cheaper to rent it there, drive it here empty, pay gas both ways at ridiculous CA prices, pay the extra mileage for a one way drive and drive it back to AZ to a closer zip code. (can't return a one way rental to the same zip code).
morekaos
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This would be a real loss...I wouldn't blame Lynsi though..
Top Florida Official Pleads With In-N-Out to Move After Vaccine Mandate Closures
Florida?s Chief Financial Officer, Jimmy Patronis, suggested that In-N-Out Burger should move to the Sunshine State after several In-N-Out locations were shut down by California officials.
Patronis appealed to In-N-Out CEO Lunsi Snyder to move to the state, arguing that Florida has a superior business climate?noting the state has no personal income tax, low corporate taxes, and no mandates.
?I?m writing you today not only as Florida?s Chief Financial Officer, but as a small business owner who grew up in a family-owned restaurant and worked there for more than 30 years,? his letter reads. ?I know how hard it is to turn a profit and make payroll on a good day, let alone when your own government is working to crush your business with absurd mandates. Once I heard the news of your shutdown for refusing to act as ?vaccine police,? I knew I had to reach out immediately.?
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/top-florida-official-pleads-with-in-n-out-to-move-after-vaccine-mandate-closures_4071753.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-10-28&mktids=990c9c6945d7eda7f1ee8df3d3a328a1&est=o7xRlCkp3MyjUCN89BOMwCsYzr0WM7YOzgEpI5O0ViZ8c68rUFZiCS0BTe7woEo%3D
Top Florida Official Pleads With In-N-Out to Move After Vaccine Mandate Closures
Florida?s Chief Financial Officer, Jimmy Patronis, suggested that In-N-Out Burger should move to the Sunshine State after several In-N-Out locations were shut down by California officials.
Patronis appealed to In-N-Out CEO Lunsi Snyder to move to the state, arguing that Florida has a superior business climate?noting the state has no personal income tax, low corporate taxes, and no mandates.
?I?m writing you today not only as Florida?s Chief Financial Officer, but as a small business owner who grew up in a family-owned restaurant and worked there for more than 30 years,? his letter reads. ?I know how hard it is to turn a profit and make payroll on a good day, let alone when your own government is working to crush your business with absurd mandates. Once I heard the news of your shutdown for refusing to act as ?vaccine police,? I knew I had to reach out immediately.?
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/top-florida-official-pleads-with-in-n-out-to-move-after-vaccine-mandate-closures_4071753.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-10-28&mktids=990c9c6945d7eda7f1ee8df3d3a328a1&est=o7xRlCkp3MyjUCN89BOMwCsYzr0WM7YOzgEpI5O0ViZ8c68rUFZiCS0BTe7woEo%3D
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morekaos said:
I think Texas would be a more likely landing spot since they already have restaurants there. One problem though is In-N-Out's image is tied to an idealized version of California car culture, palm trees, and hot rods. It might hurt their branding to leave the state.
morekaos
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Fewer and fewer...
Carl?s Jr. HQ To Leave California, Move To Tennessee
Posted by: Chris McCrory in Santa Clarita Latest News, State and National News March 13, 2016 - 3:48 pm
Fast food chain Carl?s Junior is leaving California next year for a new headquarters shared with the company?s sister franchise, Hardee?s, in Nashville, Tennessee.
https://www.hometownstation.com/santa-clarita-latest-news/carls-jr-hq-to-leave-california-move-to-tennessee-168103
Carl?s Jr. HQ To Leave California, Move To Tennessee
Posted by: Chris McCrory in Santa Clarita Latest News, State and National News March 13, 2016 - 3:48 pm
Fast food chain Carl?s Junior is leaving California next year for a new headquarters shared with the company?s sister franchise, Hardee?s, in Nashville, Tennessee.
https://www.hometownstation.com/santa-clarita-latest-news/carls-jr-hq-to-leave-california-move-to-tennessee-168103
morekaos
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And on jobs... the boy King is just hitting it out of the park...
California Adds Only 47,400 Jobs In September; Unemployment Rate At 7.5%
California is now tied with Nevada for the highest unemployment rate in the country at 7.5% after adding just 47,400 new jobs last month.
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/10/22/california-september-21-jobs-report-hiring-slows/
California Adds Only 47,400 Jobs In September; Unemployment Rate At 7.5%
California is now tied with Nevada for the highest unemployment rate in the country at 7.5% after adding just 47,400 new jobs last month.
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/10/22/california-september-21-jobs-report-hiring-slows/
Also, it was just closing the dine in area and only serving drive thru for a few locations. From what I read in the news.
Tbh: it might Possibly more profitable to do drive thru only. (Hypothetically they do not have to staff for a full restaurant) For example I ?heard? of another restaurant only doing drive thru only due to work shortage or other reasons.
So I think is not a big deal since most people drive. (nothing burger)
Tbh: it might Possibly more profitable to do drive thru only. (Hypothetically they do not have to staff for a full restaurant) For example I ?heard? of another restaurant only doing drive thru only due to work shortage or other reasons.
So I think is not a big deal since most people drive. (nothing burger)
morekaos
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This is what I mean by drain of tax revenues, these are our most productive, established members and they are taking their tax revenue with them to cheaper states...alas, imbedded policymakers are too stupid to realize this and change course...leavening those of us who are left to shoulder the burden...
Citizens Continue to Exit High-Tax U.S. States
The data shows that certain states continue to alienate their own tax bases with punitively high taxes and uncompetitive business tax environments. High-tax states are losing taxpayers at an alarming rate, while states that tax their residents less aggressively are benefiting from their fellow states? loss.
The five states that lost the most taxpayers are not exactly known for fiscal restraint. New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey, and Massachusetts lost, on net, 219,937 taxpayers and over $28 billion in adjusted gross income (AGI). On average, these states have a state-local effective tax rate of 11.8 percent.
The five states that gained the most taxpayers, on the other hand, are all low-tax states ? in fact, three of the five have no state income tax. Florida, Texas, Arizona, North Carolina, and Washington state gained, on net, 194,340 taxpayers and $28.9 billion in AGI, all while averaging a state-local effective tax rate of just 8.96 percent. Unsurprisingly, Florida is the big winner here, adding $17.5 billion in AGI to its tax base alone.
But this phenomenon of taxpayers fleeing states that treat them like boundless sources of tax revenue is nothing new, and high-tax states aren?t learning their lessons anytime soon. Since the tax years covered by this data, New Jersey and New York have passed major income tax increases, while the other three states that lost the most taxpayers are seriously considering doing the same.
And even with never-ending tax increases, many of these states are in dire fiscal straits. Illinois, New Jersey, and Massachusetts stand out for their poor fiscal outlook due to debt and unfunded pension liabilities.
https://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2021/12/01/citizens_continue_to_exit_high-tax_us_states_805797.html
Citizens Continue to Exit High-Tax U.S. States
The data shows that certain states continue to alienate their own tax bases with punitively high taxes and uncompetitive business tax environments. High-tax states are losing taxpayers at an alarming rate, while states that tax their residents less aggressively are benefiting from their fellow states? loss.
The five states that lost the most taxpayers are not exactly known for fiscal restraint. New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey, and Massachusetts lost, on net, 219,937 taxpayers and over $28 billion in adjusted gross income (AGI). On average, these states have a state-local effective tax rate of 11.8 percent.
The five states that gained the most taxpayers, on the other hand, are all low-tax states ? in fact, three of the five have no state income tax. Florida, Texas, Arizona, North Carolina, and Washington state gained, on net, 194,340 taxpayers and $28.9 billion in AGI, all while averaging a state-local effective tax rate of just 8.96 percent. Unsurprisingly, Florida is the big winner here, adding $17.5 billion in AGI to its tax base alone.
But this phenomenon of taxpayers fleeing states that treat them like boundless sources of tax revenue is nothing new, and high-tax states aren?t learning their lessons anytime soon. Since the tax years covered by this data, New Jersey and New York have passed major income tax increases, while the other three states that lost the most taxpayers are seriously considering doing the same.
And even with never-ending tax increases, many of these states are in dire fiscal straits. Illinois, New Jersey, and Massachusetts stand out for their poor fiscal outlook due to debt and unfunded pension liabilities.
https://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2021/12/01/citizens_continue_to_exit_high-tax_us_states_805797.html
morekaos
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Can't deny the trend...
The Texas vs. California Challenge
Leaving California for Texas is such a conformist thing to do these days, but I did for a short vacation to America. In Houston, I went into an H.E.B. and was talking about California to someone who was giving away free samples of beef ? having conversations with random people is a huge difference from LA ? and I had to reassure the guy I was going home. He seemed relieved. I?ve been coming to Texas intermittently for about 30 years, and it?s never seemed more crowded. The place is packed ? the roads, the stores, the airport. Back home in LA, it?s empty and depressing as the pols elected by the brigades of frigid Santa Monica wine moms who seem to run everything panic ever-harder over a disease that appears to be less virulent than the regular flu.
Here in Texas, people are happy, chipper, and armed.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/12/27/the-texas-vs-california-challenge-n2601075
The Texas vs. California Challenge
Leaving California for Texas is such a conformist thing to do these days, but I did for a short vacation to America. In Houston, I went into an H.E.B. and was talking about California to someone who was giving away free samples of beef ? having conversations with random people is a huge difference from LA ? and I had to reassure the guy I was going home. He seemed relieved. I?ve been coming to Texas intermittently for about 30 years, and it?s never seemed more crowded. The place is packed ? the roads, the stores, the airport. Back home in LA, it?s empty and depressing as the pols elected by the brigades of frigid Santa Monica wine moms who seem to run everything panic ever-harder over a disease that appears to be less virulent than the regular flu.
Here in Texas, people are happy, chipper, and armed.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/12/27/the-texas-vs-california-challenge-n2601075
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morekaos
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We're #1! We're#1...We rock!! Thanks Governor Nuisance and George Gascon!! We couldn't have done it without you!!
Not enough U-Haul trucks for fleeing Californians in 2021 amid ongoing blue-to-red flight: report
Red states are top 5 gainers in U-Haul Growth Index signaling migration trends by measuring net difference between one-way entries and exits of the company's rental trucks for each state.
A new report released Monday revealed California saw the greatest net loss in U-Haul migration in 2021, the second consecutive year the Golden State ranked 50th in the nation for U-Haul one-way migration.
The U-Haul Growth Index, an annual report that determines growth by calculating the net gain of one-way U-Haul trucks entering a state versus leaving in a calendar year, found that California had the largest net losses in one-way U-Haul trucks in 2021, followed by Illinois in 49th place.
According to the report, California remained the top state for out-migration in 2021, but its net loss of U-Haul trucks "wasn?t as severe as 2020." Analysts believe this is partly because U-Haul "ran out of inventory to meet customer demand for outbound equipment."
Texas took the top spot for growth in 2021, followed closely by Florida. According to the report, "arrivals made up 50.2% of all one-way U-Haul traffic" last year in the Lone Star state. The five biggest gainers were all red states, with Tennessee, South Carolina and Arizona rounding out the top five behind the Lone Star and Sunshine states.
https://justthenews.com/nation/stat...emand-outgoing-californians-2021-report-finds
Not enough U-Haul trucks for fleeing Californians in 2021 amid ongoing blue-to-red flight: report
Red states are top 5 gainers in U-Haul Growth Index signaling migration trends by measuring net difference between one-way entries and exits of the company's rental trucks for each state.
A new report released Monday revealed California saw the greatest net loss in U-Haul migration in 2021, the second consecutive year the Golden State ranked 50th in the nation for U-Haul one-way migration.
The U-Haul Growth Index, an annual report that determines growth by calculating the net gain of one-way U-Haul trucks entering a state versus leaving in a calendar year, found that California had the largest net losses in one-way U-Haul trucks in 2021, followed by Illinois in 49th place.
According to the report, California remained the top state for out-migration in 2021, but its net loss of U-Haul trucks "wasn?t as severe as 2020." Analysts believe this is partly because U-Haul "ran out of inventory to meet customer demand for outbound equipment."
Texas took the top spot for growth in 2021, followed closely by Florida. According to the report, "arrivals made up 50.2% of all one-way U-Haul traffic" last year in the Lone Star state. The five biggest gainers were all red states, with Tennessee, South Carolina and Arizona rounding out the top five behind the Lone Star and Sunshine states.
https://justthenews.com/nation/stat...emand-outgoing-californians-2021-report-finds
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morekaos said:
Haven't checked in a while but last time I did, it costs $1300 for a one way UHaul to the zip I'm moving to in AZ and $200 from there to here one way. One way rentals include enough mileage to get u to the destination plus some extra.
It's literally cheaper to rent it there, drive it here empty, pay gas both ways at ridiculous CA prices, pay the extra mileage for a one way drive and drive it back to AZ to a closer zip code. (can't return a one way rental to the same zip code).