Toyota moving to Texas

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eyephone said:
Its funny how things changes. The fake finance guy previously hated Tesla. Now he likes Tesla. 4weird
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Oh no, I still hate Tesla. I just loved their tax revenue.
 
morekaos said:
eyephone said:
Its funny how things changes. The fake finance guy previously hated Tesla. Now he likes Tesla. 4weird
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Oh no, I still hate Tesla. I just loved their tax revenue.
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~300 out of 10000+ Tesla employees in state are moving. I think your tax revenue will be alright.
 
morekaos said:
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irvinehomeowner said:
@morekaos: I welcome less people in Cali... less traffic... less pollution... less lines at Omomo.
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When I first moved to California in 1988, the population was under 30 mil. Now we're at 40 mil. So I, too, welcome people to move out of state.
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But who is left to pay for all the crap?? Musk and all the other corporations are bailing?you and me?
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Other than Toyota, Tesla, Oracle, and HP, name another corporation that makes a difference.  All these "companies are leaving California" crap is overblown.
 
CalBears96 said:
morekaos said:
CalBears96 said:
irvinehomeowner said:
@morekaos: I welcome less people in Cali... less traffic... less pollution... less lines at Omomo.
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When I first moved to California in 1988, the population was under 30 mil. Now we're at 40 mil. So I, too, welcome people to move out of state.
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But who is left to pay for all the crap?? Musk and all the other corporations are bailing?you and me?
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Other than Toyota, Tesla, Oracle, and HP, name another corporation that makes a difference.  All these "companies are leaving California" crap is overblown.
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Chevron and Wells Fargo are on deck...all those names are a hell of a chunk of the S and P....along with all that tax revenue.  To look at it another way...name a major S and P company that has moved to California in the last two years?...
 
morekaos said:
Chevron and Wells Fargo are on deck...all those names are a hell of a chunk of the S and P....along with all that tax revenue.  To look at it another way...name a major S and P company that has moved to California in the last two years?...[/b][/size][/color]
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Both are unfounded rumors.

And it's not like California needs people moving here. We need people moving out.
 
It is harder than it sounds to recruit in Texas. One of our competitors (with worldwide presence) recently opened an office in Austin and is recruiting for it. They're offering 400k signing bonus if you go to the Austin office.
 
Cnbc: Apple is building a new regional headquarters in Los Angeles, signaling Hollywood ambition

Apple will build a new regional headquarters at the border of Culver City and Los Angeles.
The headquarters will include 550,000 square feet across two office buildings, and will house teams working on Apple TV+, Apple Music, engineering and artificial intelligence, Apple said.
Apple's new headquarters is a sign that the company will continue to invest in creating movies and TV shows for Apple TV+, its streaming service that launched in 2019.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/08/apple-building-new-regional-headquarters-in-los-angeles.html

Apple expanding to the LA market.
 
Netflix?s New Hollywood Office Revealed

Kilroy Realty developed the 600,000-square-foot mixed-use campus

Kilroy Realty Corporation has revealed Netflix?s new 3.5-acre creative campus in Hollywood.

The mixed-use complex includes 355,000 square feet of office space, and 16,500 square feet of studio and production space ? all leased to Netflix. It also features Jardine, a 196-unit, luxury residential project set for pre-leasing next quarter, as well as a 260-seat theater
https://commercialobserver.com/2020/12/netflix-hollywood-office-los-angeles/

Old Dec 2020 news. But it shows business are expanding in California. Netflix only moved into a 600k square foot campus. 
 
morekaos said:
But who is left to pay for all the crap?? Musk and all the other corporations are bailing?you and me?[/b][/size][/color]
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Actually... you should really fact check yourself. Although HQ is moving... Tesla's Cali footprint is growing:
https://electrek.co/2021/10/11/tesla-tsla-takes-over-hp-campus-california/

However, when making the announcement, Musk made a point of saying that Tesla would continue to grow in California:

We are continuing to expand our presence in California, we are not leaving California, but we are hitting the sides of the bowl.

He referenced things like Tesla growing Fremont factory output by 50% and the new Megafactory they are building in Northern California.

Now we learn of another expansion of Tesla?s operations in California.

The Registry SF, a publication about Bay Area real estate, reports that Tesla is taking over a big part of HP?s campus in Palo Alto:

The company has just completed an office expansion in its hometown for additional 325,000 square feet, according to sources with knowledge of the leasing market in Palo Alto. The electric vehicle and energy company will be leasing the space at 1501 Page Mill Road from Hewlett Packard, in a building that once served as the global headquarters for the technology giant.

The location is within the Stanford Research Park, just a few minutes away from the automaker?s existing offices, where its headquarters are currently located.

The lease is believed to be for a 10-year period, and Tesla is taking over roughly half of HP?s campus.

According to JLL?s Silicon Valley Q3 2021 office statistics, Tesla?s new 325,000-square-foot office space represents roughly 10% of the entire market available in Palo Alto.

So Musk wasn?t kidding when he said that they are hitting the sides of the bowl.
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Keep trying to misdirect... Cali is gonna Cali.
 
Worker bees while high income management and more of those manufacturing jobs go elsewhere. He has to leave some muscle but the brains and incomes are fleeing. Again, who is moving their headquarters into California? Answer?no one
 
Lame. Many of those high income earners are going to stay in Cali... people would rather live here than in Texas.

I don't see you moving away from your by the ocean lifestyle to hot and humid land.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Lame. Many of those high income earners are going to stay in Cali... people would rather live here than in Texas.

I don't see you moving away from your by the ocean lifestyle to hot and humid land.
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Also lame?I was born here and fortunately, can afford to stay but I?m pondering moving my business out of state (as I?ve outlined many of my associates have) and just avoid the state tax all together. Sick of my tax dollars going to pay for lazy people and woke politics. The point is, I hope things could get better, it will collapse on itself eventually. It almost did in 1992 and again in 09 when the state had to issue IOU?s.  Just a matter of time. Then sanity may return, but it?s gonna hurt?not me.

Newsom's 'woke-end': In just two days, California governor signs into law free menstrual products for girls, mandates ethnic studies, requires stores to have gender neutral areas and bans gas-powered lawnmowers
[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10079065/Gavin-Newsom-California-governor-signs-law-free-menstrual-products-girls-mandates-ethnic-studies.html[/url]
 
morekaos said:
Again, who is moving their headquarters into California? Answer?no one
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Um, doordash? Airbnb? Instacart? Honest company? Any number of other billion dollar companies that didn't exist 10 yrs ago?

Imagine bragging about being a state where companies move to reduce taxes vs a state that constantly spawns billion dollar startups
 
morekaos said:
They didn?t move here. Like Tesla and HP?they started here but will also eventually leave.
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lots of people get rich in the US and move to Singapore.  i'd still rather live in the US.

your argument makes no sense though.  if CA is this terrible, business-hostile environment, why do people keep founding companies here?  and why do they keep being insanely successful?
 
All you hear about are the rare startup successes. 99.999% fail in the first year. Ask anyone who started a business in this state and they will tell you, almost without exception, if they had it to do over again, they would have done it in another state. 
 
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