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[quote author="roundcorners" date=1241766542]for the last time, I AM NOT PANDA...</blockquote>
I know... because I AM PANDA.



And yes... I do miss tenmagnet... why does he not post anymore?
 
[quote author="roundcorners" date=1241768177]Yeah my eyes hurt! Just so you know, for those renting from IAC; you can cancel your Renter's Insurance; it's a jip! Just say you found another carrier. Picking bar stools is tricky, be sure to measure the height from the floor to the seat. I'm taller, so I have to slouch on most stools. Just so you know, and BK can confirm this; about 99% of all Chinese don?t use the dish washer; well maybe more now for the Gen-Xers; some exterior designs like Cortile in Woodbury have bars on their windows! And? we disable our security system?s door chime, it?s too loud?</blockquote>


Chinese rarely use their dishwasher. It wastes electricity and the chopsticks always fall to the bottom and get the rack stuck! Chinese=1/4 of the world's population and yet no one designs a dishwasher to secure chopsticks.

Cortile's windows are not bars. They are wrought Iron inspired by the romantic city of Santa Barbara.
 
What do you mean that the Chinese don't use the dishwasher?! Why not? I can't think of any reason not to... unless you're using paper plates.

Edit: Posted before seeing comment above.
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1241768365][quote author="roundcorners" date=1241766542]for the last time, I AM NOT PANDA...</blockquote>
I know... because I AM PANDA.



And yes... I do miss tenmagnet... why does he not post anymore?</blockquote>
I sent grasshopper back to the Shaolin temple. He violated the cardinal rule of celibacy.
 
[quote author="roundcorners" date=1241768177]Yeah my eyes hurt! Just so you know, for those renting from IAC; you can cancel your Renter's Insurance; it's a jip! Just say you found another carrier. Picking bar stools is tricky, be sure to measure the height from the floor to the seat. I'm taller, so I have to slouch on most stools. Just so you know, and BK can confirm this; about 99% of all Chinese don?t use the dish washer; well maybe more now for the Gen-Xers; some exterior designs like Cortile in Woodbury have bars on their windows! And? we disable our security system?s door chime, it?s too loud?</blockquote>




huh on the renter's insurance. mine is under $200/yr for $60k of replacement coverage, plus liability. seems not a "jip" (actually spelled "gyp", short for gypsy, and now seen as a slur) for the coverage you get.
 
[quote author="SoCal78" date=1241756480]... and the tie-breaker question... do you have any romantic feelings for tenmagnet?</blockquote>


Only when he wears stilettos and fish net.
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1241820810]Chinese do use the dishwasher... as a place to put their dishes to dry after they've washed them by hand. It's just another cupboard.</blockquote>


You mean that non-Chinese don't use their dishwasher as a place to dry hand washed dishes? So where do Americans put oversized pots and pans (i.e. turket fryer, cast iron griddle, etc) to dry after they've washed it? If what you say is true, It's amazing how little I know about this country despite being here for 30 yrs.
 
[quote author="High Gravity" date=1241825282][quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1241820810]Chinese do use the dishwasher... as a place to put their dishes to dry after they've washed them by hand. It's just another cupboard.</blockquote>


You mean that non-Chinese don't use their dishwasher as a place to dry hand washed dishes? So where do Americans put oversized pots and pans (i.e. turket fryer, cast iron griddle, etc) to dry after they've washed it? If what you say is true, It's amazing how little I know about this country despite being here for 30 yrs.</blockquote>
I didn't mean that ONLY Chinese use their dishwasher in that manner... but that they do use it... just not for dishwashing.



It should be called a dishdryer.



When I was a kid... we had a dishwasher that got used quite a bit... me.
 
[quote author="awgee" date=1241770665][quote author="SoCal78" date=1241756480]... and the tie-breaker question... do you have any romantic feelings for tenmagnet?</blockquote>


Only when he wears stilettos and fish net.</blockquote> and sitting on an Eames chair.
 
[quote author="High Gravity" date=1241825282]

You mean that non-Chinese don't use their dishwasher as a place to dry hand washed dishes? So where do Americans put oversized pots and pans (i.e. turket fryer, cast iron griddle, etc) to dry after they've washed it? If what you say is true, It's amazing how little I know about this country despite being here for 30 yrs.</blockquote>


If they're going to go through the trouble of loading the dishwasher, why not put it on a wash cycle instead of just a dry? I don't get it. They do make little baskets you can buy to contain small items and would presumably hold chopsticks if you guys are being serious, which I'm not sure you are.



I don't have a turkey fryer but oversized items are hand-washed then dried with a towel. Now cast iron is different. Never wash with soap, only hot water and a stiff brush. Do not allow to air dry because it can rust. If it's a skillet, I put it on the burner, crank up the heat, and let the water vaporize, then coat with oil to prevent rusting and so it's good to go for the next use. If it's not a skillet then I put it in the oven to dry.
 
[quote author="SoCal78" date=1241830531][quote author="High Gravity" date=1241825282]

You mean that non-Chinese don't use their dishwasher as a place to dry hand washed dishes? So where do Americans put oversized pots and pans (i.e. turket fryer, cast iron griddle, etc) to dry after they've washed it? If what you say is true, It's amazing how little I know about this country despite being here for 30 yrs.</blockquote>


If they're going to go through the trouble of loading the dishwasher, why not put it on a wash cycle instead of just a dry? I don't get it. They do make little baskets you can buy to contain small items and would presumably hold chopsticks if you guys are being serious, which I'm not sure you are.



I don't have a turkey fryer but oversized items are hand-washed then dried with a towel. Now cast iron is different. Never wash with soap, only hot water and a stiff brush. Do not allow to air dry because it can rust. If it's a skillet, I put it on the burner, crank up the heat, and let the water vaporize, then coat with oil to prevent rusting and so it's good to go for the next use. If it's not a skillet then I put it in the oven to dry.</blockquote>


Baskets are usually 9" deep designed for most kitchen drawers and chopsticks are 9.5 " long. Dish detergent is way cheaper than DW fluid and lasts much longer. Saving Electricity is the key factor. Chinese are very frugal in their everyday life to save every penny when possible so when is time to buy a home they bring their big bag of cash.



One of their reasons is deliberately having their children do the dish chore. Chinese parents when they cook they leave a huge mess and burn the pans really bad. They enjoy watching their kids scrub and get sweaty. They also take this opportunity to say " You better get good education or you do this for the rest of your life working at the Chinese restaurant like your father." The wife often humiliated her husband.
 
[quote author="SoCal78" date=1241830531][quote author="High Gravity" date=1241825282]

You mean that non-Chinese don't use their dishwasher as a place to dry hand washed dishes? So where do Americans put oversized pots and pans (i.e. turket fryer, cast iron griddle, etc) to dry after they've washed it? If what you say is true, It's amazing how little I know about this country despite being here for 30 yrs.</blockquote>


If they're going to go through the trouble of loading the dishwasher, why not put it on a wash cycle instead of just a dry? I don't get it. They do make little baskets you can buy to contain small items and would presumably hold chopsticks if you guys are being serious, which I'm not sure you are.



I don't have a turkey fryer but oversized items are hand-washed then dried with a towel. Now cast iron is different. Never wash with soap, only hot water and a stiff brush. Do not allow to air dry because it can rust. If it's a skillet, I put it on the burner, crank up the heat, and let the water vaporize, then coat with oil to prevent rusting and so it's good to go for the next use. If it's not a skillet then I put it in the oven to dry.</blockquote>


I prefer to hand wash my dishes and put them in the dishwasher to dry.

I still have not found a dishwasher that cleans them good enough for me.
 
i actually use my dishwasher. any newer dishwasher will use far less water than handwashing. i foudn that it really doesnt make a diff if i rinse the dishes first or not. even the most caked on stuff came off in the dishwasher so now i just throw it all in there. chopsticks can lay flat on the top shelf.
 
I am not Asian and my mother never uses the dishwasher. We got one when I was about 10 and it remained unused until the day we sold the house. Personally, I couldn't live without it. I never put anything in there to dry though, I just dry the big stuff with a towel and put it away immediately. What always fascinates and frustrates me is that Hispanic women put all of the pots and pans in the oven for storage. Our nanny does it constantly and it drives me crazy. They do this even when there's enough space for everything in the cupboards. I end up forgetting and turning on the oven to preheat and then I have to get potholders to take everything out and find a place to put them while they cool, ugh!!!!!!
 
I religiously use my dishwasher. Mrs BK would run the DW just with 2 cups, a plate and a fork, The DW fluid would spill over the reservoir regardless of the load size.
 
[quote author="tmare" date=1241835832]What always fascinates and frustrates me is that Hispanic women put all of the pots and pans in the oven for storage. </blockquote>


This reminds me. I was watching HGTV. They showed a guy who lives in a NYC apartment, which of course has very little closet space. He stored folded sweaters in the oven. He never cooked and only got take-out so the oven was never used for baking... only as a dresser drawer. Funny.
 
Strategy for companies making cleaning products. The color dye use in chemical loses color immediately when mixed with water. Users often pour chemical into water until they see color and by then 1/2 of the bottle would be poured out. The plastic used in bottle container also enhanced and deepen the color of the cleaning fluid. The dark green, orange, yellow or blue are actually lighter outside of the bottle. Manufacturers like yellow the most because when mixed with water it becomes colorless thus the users use more.
 
i don't fall for that. when my bottle of dishwashing liquid gets half empty, i pour water in it. shake it up. now i have mo' dishwashing liquid! i've been on the same bottle for 6 yrs.
 
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