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We live in a society where almost everything is disposable. When our toys are broken we just buy a new one to replace the old. Unfortunately we viewed much more important things in our lives with a similar perspective from relationships to places that we live. Urban sprawl defines southern Californian?s attitude. Few residents were wiling to stay behind to fight for the safety and welfare of the neighborhoods when moving to another neighborhood was easily attainable.







We bought in our neighborhood because we admire the spirit of the neighbors. All have raised children and grandchildren in the same house or different houses within the same neighborhood. The citizens stayed for over 40 years and defended their homes when residents from other parts of the same city fled to neighboring towns like Irvine, Tustin and Newport Beach.







We live in a very safe neighborhood with well defined neighborhood boundaries. The City has a double standard in favoring this neighborhood over other part of the city because so much of the property tax revenue and philanthropy donation came from this neighborhood. We enjoy the police presence and their dedication in keeping our neighborhood safe we felt our city. OC is a world class city and must measure up to all the big cities having urban blights. In places like SF, LA and San Diego social service programs and locations are spread out through out the counties except here in OC. Santa Ana?s zoning has been the most lenient of all OC cities. Demographic is always evolving and the city is burden with providing social, welfare and health care services for the entire OC.







Soup kitchen, Goodwill, Salvation Army, OC Rescue Mission, Unemployment, Animal Shelter, Teenage Shelters and even halfway house for the newly release convicts. Most OC cities manipulated their zonings to prohibit these types of uses in their district. Santa Ana with many of its current zoning date back to the 1930?s virtually unchanged while society has been constantly evolving.







This Aqua Motel is adjacent to the off ramp next to the freeway 5 at 17th Street and Floral Park is a mile away. Before the days of Hyatt and Sheratons these roadside hotels were once the midcentury culture of America. Disneyland founded in 1956 would not have flourished without these roadside motels everywhere in neighboring cities including Santa Ana. Holiday Inn was the Ritz Carlton of this era. Families stayed in these motels during their visit to Disneyland. The lifestyle of travelers shifted during the 80?s and these motels once was an integral part of the Americana have fallen into the darkness of back alley drug attics, prostitutes, and broken families. Ownership has also changed hand to immigrants with no other viable job skills. Operators are primarily Hindu Indians and struggles for years with due to vacancy. Zonings do allow for commercial transient motel. In order to stay alive these motels found new life as Single room occupancy living for newly released sexual predators. Operators worked out a deal with the county for a set fee.







We are active with local politics in making our society a better place. NIMBYism is not a part of our agenda. We would have stayed in Irvine if we practice NIMBYism. We live in Santa Ana not because we can?t afford Irvine our place is still worth 7 digits. We have every well intention in helping people in need and other circumstances causing families to become homeless.







In this case of pedophile living at the motel would not have been a big issue had the walking path to several schools not crossed the front of this motel. 300 or more children from latched key families walk to school every morning and after school. They use the candy vending machine inside the premise. Having children in front of pedophile is like putting liquor in front of an alcoholic. The urge to act or drink out powers the restraint of the addicts.







I am saddened to read some misunderstood replies to a well intended post.
 
[quote author="Anon." date=1223447165]No_vas, maybe you're right. Maybe he was checking for a hernia. On the other hand, <strong>a mother's intuition was telling her something and she was smart not to ignore it.</strong>

Better to be safe than sorry when it comes to a kid.</blockquote>


I disagree. The mother was a flaming moron for ignorning it and then getting angry later.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1223452195]

I am saddened to read some misunderstood replies to a well intended post.</blockquote>


The solution is to find new and innovative ways to warehouse these people who are unrehabitable. We have not addressed this as a society.



If you force them out of these "flophouse" hotels they simply are displaced into other flophouse hotels in other people's neighborhoods.



This is not a Floral Park problem. This is not an Anaheim problem. This is not a Wasco, California problem.



It is all of our problem. And by displacing our problem out of Floral Park into some body elses community this is a simple transfer costing equation, where Floral Park pays less, and somebody else pays more. If that isn't NIMBYism I don't know what is. And I aspire to move to Floral Park at some time.



Where's that SNL video for Yard-A-Pult when I need it? "Out of sight, out of mind."
 
[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1223453692][quote author="bkshopr" date=1223452195]

I am saddened to read some misunderstood replies to a well intended post.</blockquote>


The solution is to find new and innovative ways to warehouse these people who are unrehabitable. We have not addressed this as a society.



If you force them out of these "flophouse" hotels they simply are displaced into other flophouse hotels in other people's neighborhoods.



This is not a Floral Park problem. This is not an Anaheim problem. This is not a Wasco, California problem.



It is all of our problem. And by displacing our problem out of Floral Park into some body elses community this is a simple transfer costing equation, where Floral Park pays less, and somebody else pays more. If that isn't NIMBYism I don't know what is. And I aspire to move to Floral Park at some time.



Where's that SNL video for Yard-A-Pult when I need it? "Out of sight, out of mind."</blockquote>


The people at the government level should study the location of flophouses and the children's path to school. Approving an application to house convicts over the counter is another facet why our government lacks common sense in the decisions.



I am ok with sexual predators living in other parts of the same city away from the popular path of school children. The issue here is not Nimbyism but to bring awareness to the posters here that our government pay more attention to the proper location for a gas station requiring a full blown EIR while housing location for sex convicts was a decision made over the counter without any thought regarding the safety of children.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1223455142][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1223453692][quote author="bkshopr" date=1223452195]

I am saddened to read some misunderstood replies to a well intended post.</blockquote>


The solution is to find new and innovative ways to warehouse these people who are unrehabitable. We have not addressed this as a society.



If you force them out of these "flophouse" hotels they simply are displaced into other flophouse hotels in other people's neighborhoods.



This is not a Floral Park problem. This is not an Anaheim problem. This is not a Wasco, California problem.



It is all of our problem. And by displacing our problem out of Floral Park into some body elses community this is a simple transfer costing equation, where Floral Park pays less, and somebody else pays more. If that isn't NIMBYism I don't know what is. And I aspire to move to Floral Park at some time.



Where's that SNL video for Yard-A-Pult when I need it? "Out of sight, out of mind."</blockquote>


The people at the government level should study the location of flophouses and the children's path to school. Approving an application to house convicts over the counter is another facet why our government lacks common sense in the decisions.



I am ok with sexual predators living in other parts of the same city away from the popular path of school children. The issue here is not Nimbyism but to bring awareness to the posters here that our government pay more attention to the proper location for a gas station requiring a full blown EIR while housing location for sex convicts was a decision without any thought regarding the safety of children.</blockquote>


IMO this bandaids the issue. These people need to be removed from society - period. They are unresponsive to rehabilitation. Anything short of that takes somebody out of the way and puts somebody else in the way. It will always be this way because of the restrictions strapped on Parole departments as a result of Prop 83.



<a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2007/feb/24/local/me-offenders24">http://articles.latimes.com/2007/feb/24/local/me-offenders24</a>



If you can't rehablitate them, you shouldn't let them out. Period.
 
[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1223452587][quote author="Anon." date=1223447165]No_vas, maybe you're right. Maybe he was checking for a hernia. On the other hand, <strong>a mother's intuition was telling her something and she was smart not to ignore it.</strong>

Better to be safe than sorry when it comes to a kid.</blockquote>


I disagree. The mother was a flaming moron for ignorning it and then getting angry later.</blockquote>


Maybe I read this wrong but she said: "My friend immediately objected and left before the doctor could say anything." To me that meant she left with her son in tow, not left the room for him to be examined?
 
[quote author="SoCal78" date=1223457920][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1223452587][quote author="Anon." date=1223447165]No_vas, maybe you're right. Maybe he was checking for a hernia. On the other hand, <strong>a mother's intuition was telling her something and she was smart not to ignore it.</strong>

Better to be safe than sorry when it comes to a kid.</blockquote>


I disagree. The mother was a flaming moron for ignorning it and then getting angry later.</blockquote>


Maybe I read this wrong but she said: "My friend immediately objected and left before the doctor could say anything." To me that meant she left with her son in tow, not left the room for him to be examined?</blockquote>


SoCal, that's how I interpreted it, too.



Allison, I hope your friend talked to someone about what happened when she called the Board. By the way, it's not that expensive to get a copy of the report. I've done it with a doc I knew because someone mentioned their concerns to me. That person was right-it turned out the doc was just starting on a 5-year license probation for having inappropriate relations with two patients, including having a sexual relationship with one. He's lucky he didn't end up getting his license revoked. He eventually tried to get a license in another state, lied about any previous license problems, and didn't get the new license.



Between the Board reports and the internet, you can find out a lot about a doc.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1223455142][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1223453692][quote author="bkshopr" date=1223452195]

I am saddened to read some misunderstood replies to a well intended post.</blockquote>


The solution is to find new and innovative ways to warehouse these people who are unrehabitable. We have not addressed this as a society.



If you force them out of these "flophouse" hotels they simply are displaced into other flophouse hotels in other people's neighborhoods.



This is not a Floral Park problem. This is not an Anaheim problem. This is not a Wasco, California problem.



It is all of our problem. And by displacing our problem out of Floral Park into some body elses community this is a simple transfer costing equation, where Floral Park pays less, and somebody else pays more. If that isn't NIMBYism I don't know what is. And I aspire to move to Floral Park at some time.



Where's that SNL video for Yard-A-Pult when I need it? "Out of sight, out of mind."</blockquote>


The people at the government level should study the location of flophouses and the children's path to school. Approving an application to house convicts over the counter is another facet why our government lacks common sense in the decisions.



I am ok with sexual predators living in other parts of the same city away from the popular path of school children. The issue here is not Nimbyism but to bring awareness to the posters here that our government pay more attention to the proper location for a gas station requiring a full blown EIR while housing location for sex convicts was a decision made over the counter without any thought regarding the safety of children.</blockquote>


The people over the counter can not by law not give someone a permit if they are in 100% compliance. That would be discriminating against them.

Now is the motel within 1000 feet of a school/park?

If its not then what do you expect the city to do?
 
I owe somebody an apology.



I thought the mother allowed the examination of her child, and then complained. I misread what Allison wrote.



I think she may or may not have overreacted, but I'm not a doctor, and I wasn't there.
 
[quote author="Allison C." date=1223448231]I spoke with my friend, she looked up his license on California Medical Board website. His license is being reprimanded. She called and was told she can pay a fee to have the record mailed to her. My friend recalled something that was said to her by the front office staff before they saw the doctor. The staff told my friend that the doctor might act or request strange things. Before she could ask anything else, the doctor came out.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I do appreciate everyone's input. But I would definitely need a strong reason for a doctor to check my privates, whether I am 2 or 80 years old, if I hurt my arm. And he better explain it before rushing me out the door.

I do understand no_vaseline's point in saying no molestor would tell in advance what he's gonna do. But it could have been an 'alibi' for himself so he can say, " I already told them I was gonna examine it." ??</blockquote>


I think the stranger of the two events is that the staff said "the doctor might act or request strange things" Hello?! Red flag! WTF does that mean? You said he came out before she could get an answer. If someone said that to me, I certainly wouldnt stop wondering what that meant just because the doctor walked through the door, I would get an answer before I proceeded to walk down the hall with the Dr. This story is suspicious on quite a few levels...
 
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