The Psychology of Home Pricing or Behavioral Econ and WTF Pricing

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<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/business/26leonhardt.html?ref=business">Be It Ever So Illogical: Homeowners Who Won’t Cut the Price</a> </p>

<p>"...In the wake of the biggest housing boom on record, it’s understandably hard to accept a new reality. Robert Glinert, a real estate agent in the Los Angeles area, said he has recently been saying no to almost half the sellers who have asked him to represent them. Their initial asking price is just too unrealistic. </p>

<p>“People say, ‘I don’t care about the market — my home is still worth what I paid for it in 2006,’ ” Mr. Glinert told me. “And I say, ‘To you. Only to you.’ ” </p>

<p>Doing what Mr. Glinert is asking sellers to do — dropping the asking price below their purchase price — is especially difficult. It’s tantamount to admitting defeat.</p>

<p>David Laibson, a leading <strong>behavioral economist</strong>, categorizes this sort of behavior under the heading of “the principle of the matter.” His point is that people often go to great lengths to avoid taking a loss — or simply having to acknowledge one. “Even a small loss evokes a sense of frustration,” said Mr. Laibson, a professor at Harvard. “There’s something magical about ‘at least breaking even.’ ” </p>

<p>Often, this hurts no one so much as it hurts the would-be sellers. They stay in homes where they no longer want to live, rather than accepting their loss and moving on. Or they move but endure the hassle of renting out their old home, waiting, usually in vain, for the mythical buyer who understands its charms. All the while, their money is tied up in the house, and inflation is eating away at its real value..."</p>

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profette- the sellers are trying to move on. I suppose that's why they're selling. Oh lower their price right. Good point.

Actually, a little hard to do when you owe more than your house is worth. Oh right mythical buyers. LOL! Case in point there is no money being tied up in their house. Inflation? LOL. Deflation. Keep on throwing stones. Every Dog has their day.

Be it Ever so logical; Homeowners Who Can't Cut The Price
 
<em>"Real estate, though, is different. For both economic and psychological reasons, there is no asset more conducive to hopeful overvaluation."</em>





Interesting observation.


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"Even homeowners who stay current on their mortgage payments will be affected. With the value of their largest asset dropping, many will decide to spend less and save more, aggravating the economic slowdown."</em>





It isn't that people chose to spend less, it is that they don't have any money left over after making the crushing house payment.





<em>"Be it Ever so logical; Homeowners Who Can't Cut The Price"</em>





Nothing that a good foreclosure won't take care of.
 
profette- you must agree with David Laibson or you wouldn't have posted this.



All I'm saying, well babbling about is. I'm a homeowner who is trying to sell. It's not about WTF Pricing it's about trying to get out from under a huge anchor of debt.
 
<p>Sorry all, I was getting snarky and said I was hoping for a more erudite thread, but as soon as I posted, I saw that IR had rescued the thread. AND then, graph posted at the same time I was editing. So....anyway...on with the thread!</p>
 
Blue - thanks for clarification. I'm sorry it's not going well for you.





In re-reading the excerpt, I would suggest that the theory applies equally to the bank, who is the real seller in a short sale.





Right now, we're trying to negotiate with a bank on a short sale,** where the negotiating bank holds the second. The first would have foreclosed (wiping out the second completely) had the owners of record not filed BK to postpone the trustee's sale. The bank has an offer (from another party) and won't take it. It's not enough. And every day the owners of record are a day closer to getting out of BK and reviving the trustee's sale. The bank with the second should just admit defeat and grab what they can. Amazingly, they are not.





Which is all to say, if it were me and the bank is being a jerk, I would call and ask them the address for sending the keys.











**CK, honey, I need to borrow your knife, please.
 
I still think the major difference between this price crash and the problems of the early 90s is the foreclosure picture. In the early 90s people were able to hold on and wait. If you lost your job or got a divorce or had to move for some other reason, you were screwed, but most homeowners were able to make their payments. Even those who stupidly used interest-only loans were helped out by a decline of interest rates in 1990 of about 10% to a low in 1996 of around 7%. If it wasn't for this decline in interest rates, the foreclosure problems would have been more severe and the correction might have happened quicker. This time around, many, many borrowers cannot afford their payments, and interest rates are likely to rise making all those who took out interest-only loans go under as well. Foreclosure rates are already setting new records, and there is no end in site. Put it all together and you get a bigger drop in one year than occurred in 6 last time. The psychology of trying to break even is powerless in the face of a foreclosure.
 
<em>"All I'm saying, well babbling about is. I'm a homeowner who is trying to sell. It's not about WTF Pricing it's about trying to get out from under a huge anchor of debt."</em>





I am sorry to hear that. My foreclosure comment wasn't directed at you personally, I had no idea you were in that circumstance. I can imagine the stress you are under.
 
Wow, it seems like we have come full circle from bitter renters to bitter homedebtors.





Dude, chill, it is just an article. It wasn't directed at you, it was meant for discussion. There are plenty of behavioral studies posted here, don't be so bitter that you fit the profile, you are not the only one.
 
PS. EvalSeraphim (love the name) It's actually not going bad for me. My life is good. My house that my ex left me is the only property I worry about at times. My other two houses thank God are good. One in AZ, and my Aunts old house in the UK that I've owned basically pay for themselves. So I know it could be much worse. I just hope you guys/gals think of other people before you throw you stones. Best to you all.
 
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