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Kings said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Kings said:
whether you guys on the left think it's effective or not, at least trump is trying to do something.

guess who hasn't done anything for years?  congress.  finally we have a leader who is actively trying to work for us to curb illegal immigration, negotiate favorable trade deals, and on and on.

republicans see him as actually making a difference where congress has failed for years - that is why, where you point and laugh or see a big divisive bully, we see a leader who is standing up for us and working to make america even stronger.

Except he has done none of those things while destablizing economies.

I remember the Trumpsters telling me how Trump was going to solve NK and China...how is that going? 

Remember that $1 trillion tax cut that was supposed to take GDP to 4 or 5%?  How is that going...I guess national debt is just a thing for Dem presidents.

We see an emperor with no clothes and you are telling me that nude is the new awesome.

We do not live in a zero-sum world...United States acting as bully just makes everyone else walk away.  It's just stupid.

you see destabilized economies, we see record low unemployment and record high stock market

you see nk and china unsolved after 2 years of trump in office, we see zero progress with nk and china taking advantage of us over the past 30 years with trump at least making slow progress

you see no effect from the tax cut, we see people paying lower taxes and a booming economy in an otherwise lagging world economy

you see an emperor....we also see an emperor  ;)

btw, still waiting on the rest of the world to turn their back on the us.  trump is throwing his weight around because the rest of the world has been taking advantage of our generosity for years.  finally the american people have a president that is fighting for them!

Again..you think that things are "better" when in fact they are worse.

NK now has more standing and clout in world than before and China is becoming a viable alternative trade partner as compared to US.  But you can't see that.

Economic effects shakes out over years...not in months.  Go ask those farmers in the Midwest and the retail/apparel business how those tariffs are working out.  The fact that you think unemployment rates and stock market are the prime indicators for the economy is hilarious.

Similarly...you see people paying less taxes when all the studies (including the CBO) show that the tax cuts have done none of the things that it was supposed to do and we are facing a $1 trillion deficit.  But hey who cares right?

It's fine...it is what it is.  Trumpsters have always been more about handwaving and symbol than substance. 
 
But if GDP, unemployment, incomes, manufacturing, the stock markets, and government tax receipts were tanking while interest rate, energy costs and inflation were skyrocketing you would be screaming bloody murder that Trump caused it....and yet, none of that is happening, in fact, quite the opposite is true, but that outcome (because it's good) he has nothing to do with?
 
IC - doesn?t matter , cult members see what they want to see.  Trump tweeted a ?great day? for the market yesterday when stocks actually ended up in the red . They will believe trump over math.  (?Muslim math? for all you VEEP fans) :)
 
morekaos said:
Biden can't stop plagiarizing others.....

Michael Avenatti: Joe Biden stole ?my slogan and theme?

Disgraced leftist attorney Michael Avenatti claims Democratic presidential frontrunner Joe Biden basically stole his campaign ?slogan and theme.?

Biden announced his campaign slogan ?Make America America Again? yesterday.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/06/12/michael-avenatti-joe-biden-stole-my-slogan-and-theme-764125

LOL is this for real?  "make america america again" ?  trump is such a good messenger that biden (and cpl) can't even come up with their own slogan.  biden is going to be a complete dumpster fire and i cannot wait!
 
Just a matter of time until he gets convicted/pleads...curious to see if he steps down.

California GOP Rep. Duncan Hunter's wife Margaret pleaded guilty on Thursday to conspiring with her husband to "knowingly and willingly" convert campaign funds for personal use and has agreed to cooperate with prosecutors.

Both Hunters previously pleaded not guilty to federal charges that they had stolen a quarter of a million dollars in campaign funds to furnish their lavish lifestyle.

Margaret Hunter appeared alone with her lawyers in a federal district court in San Diego before Judge Thomas Whelan, where she changed her plea in the high-profile case. The congressman did not appear with his wife on Thursday.

She acknowledged she was a member of the conspiracy and as part of that conspiracy, she and her husband spent more than $10,000 on a family vacation to Italy on the campaign credit card, knowing it was well outside the family's budget. Duncan Hunter attempted to set up a one-day tour of a naval base in Italy to justify the trip.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/13/politics/margaret-hunter-duncan-hunter-california/index.html
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Just a matter of time until he gets convicted/pleads...curious to see if he steps down.

California GOP Rep. Duncan Hunter's wife Margaret pleaded guilty on Thursday to conspiring with her husband to "knowingly and willingly" convert campaign funds for personal use and has agreed to cooperate with prosecutors.

Both Hunters previously pleaded not guilty to federal charges that they had stolen a quarter of a million dollars in campaign funds to furnish their lavish lifestyle.

Margaret Hunter appeared alone with her lawyers in a federal district court in San Diego before Judge Thomas Whelan, where she changed her plea in the high-profile case. The congressman did not appear with his wife on Thursday.

She acknowledged she was a member of the conspiracy and as part of that conspiracy, she and her husband spent more than $10,000 on a family vacation to Italy on the campaign credit card, knowing it was well outside the family's budget. Duncan Hunter attempted to set up a one-day tour of a naval base in Italy to justify the trip.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/13/politics/margaret-hunter-duncan-hunter-california/index.html

Not shocking or surprising at all.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Just a matter of time until he gets convicted/pleads...curious to see if he steps down.

California GOP Rep. Duncan Hunter's wife Margaret pleaded guilty on Thursday to conspiring with her husband to "knowingly and willingly" convert campaign funds for personal use and has agreed to cooperate with prosecutors.

Both Hunters previously pleaded not guilty to federal charges that they had stolen a quarter of a million dollars in campaign funds to furnish their lavish lifestyle.

Margaret Hunter appeared alone with her lawyers in a federal district court in San Diego before Judge Thomas Whelan, where she changed her plea in the high-profile case. The congressman did not appear with his wife on Thursday.

She acknowledged she was a member of the conspiracy and as part of that conspiracy, she and her husband spent more than $10,000 on a family vacation to Italy on the campaign credit card, knowing it was well outside the family's budget. Duncan Hunter attempted to set up a one-day tour of a naval base in Italy to justify the trip.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/13/politics/margaret-hunter-duncan-hunter-california/index.html

I knew before the election he'd win but my best guess now would be his wife falls on the sword with her guilty plea and takes the brunt of the heat.

morekaos said:
That guy is gonna get schooled in Florida.  Desantis will win easily.  And to the consternation of many, Duncan Hunter, in San Diego (if he doesn't pull out) will win his seat again.  Mark my words.
 
morekaos said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Just a matter of time until he gets convicted/pleads...curious to see if he steps down.

California GOP Rep. Duncan Hunter's wife Margaret pleaded guilty on Thursday to conspiring with her husband to "knowingly and willingly" convert campaign funds for personal use and has agreed to cooperate with prosecutors.

Both Hunters previously pleaded not guilty to federal charges that they had stolen a quarter of a million dollars in campaign funds to furnish their lavish lifestyle.

Margaret Hunter appeared alone with her lawyers in a federal district court in San Diego before Judge Thomas Whelan, where she changed her plea in the high-profile case. The congressman did not appear with his wife on Thursday.

She acknowledged she was a member of the conspiracy and as part of that conspiracy, she and her husband spent more than $10,000 on a family vacation to Italy on the campaign credit card, knowing it was well outside the family's budget. Duncan Hunter attempted to set up a one-day tour of a naval base in Italy to justify the trip.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/13/politics/margaret-hunter-duncan-hunter-california/index.html

I knew before the election he'd win but my best guess now would be his wife falls on the sword with her guilty plea and takes the brunt of the heat.

morekaos said:
That guy is gonna get schooled in Florida.  Desantis will win easily.  And to the consternation of many, Duncan Hunter, in San Diego (if he doesn't pull out) will win his seat again.  Mark my words.

You don't understand how this work then...she is getting off easy so she can testify against Hunter.
 
morekaos said:
My man Swalwell drew 18 to his rally today...One dollar well spent!

The NRA posted photos of Swalwell and the 18 people who showed up to listen to his gun control push. The glass building in the background is NRA headquarters:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1140733643381493760

wow, i can't believe you would post this complete fabrication of fake news!

....

there are at least 19 people there! (if you count swalwell LOL)

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But there was thirty or forty media to cover the mob...right across town at Trumps rally?  hmmmmm

How Trump's reelection rally is affecting planes, trains and traffic in Orlando

ORLANDO, Fla. - President Donald Trump?s visit to Orlando on Tuesday is impacting how planes, trains and automobiles travel to and through the City Beautiful.

As tens of thousands of people flood downtown Orlando for Trump?s reelection rally, the city?s transit systems are adapting their schedules to meet the increased demand while also curbing traffic on certain roads for security purposes.

https://www.wftv.com/news/local/supporters-camping-out-roads-already-closed-ahead-of-president-trumps-orlando-rally/958823101
 
fortune11 said:
Anyways ? Keep clutching to your old world views - you guys can afford to since many of you are self employed and can live out your fantasies on right leaning forums like these and likeminded Facebook groups etc .

But out in the real world , norms are changing fast and there is only so much change you can hold off clinging on to a thin undemocratic senate majority. 

Just think of all the stuff you guys took for granted even 10 years ago that is no longer acceptable.

Five more years of Trump, then eight more years of Pence.  13 more years of no change...I'll take that, after I'm gone I could care less, my kids problem, I'm confident they'll deal with it properly.
 
you cannot make this up

so the geniuses at white house created a forum on "social media censorship" and happened to invite an alt right type cartoonist . 

when they found out who he was , they kicked him out

 
 
You and Carl will never understand

Liberal Media Scream: Bernstein wants probe of why people support Trump

On CNN?s Reliable Sources, Bernstein accused Trump of bringing a ?cold civil war almost to the point of ignition? by promoting ?undemocratic notions and authoritarian notions.?

And he urged an exploration of why people support him ?no matter what he does, no matter how outrageous seemingly his conduct is.? He urged the media to do ?some real reporting? by making ?our table bigger in terms of our reportorial landscape.?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/liberal-media-scream-bernstein-wants-probe-of-why-people-support-trump
 
Stormey stormey stormey... avenatti avenatti avenatti.. uhh meuller mueller mueller...uhhh impeach impeach impeach. Uhh Epstein Epstein ep....who?s Really the dumbasses?
 
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