Straw poll on gay marriage

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[quote author="NewToOC" date=1224649843]This OC Register article has an interactive poll on how people will vote on Prop 8 and its 49% vs 48% Yes to No's right now.



<a href="http://www.ocregister.com/articles/signs-sign-ban-2197356-vandalism-people">Prop 8 sign vandalism article with poll</a></blockquote>


We have some friends in 92705 who had their YES on 8 signs stolen even though they were farther back from the sidewalk on their lawns 10' so people have to trespass to get to them. Anyways, one of the other neighbors saw two guys stealing them, got the license plate, and called the OC Sheriff who came out and took a report for petty theft. This one should be a slam-dunk.
 
<strong><span style="font-size: 14px;">Will gay marriage be taught in public schools if Prop. 8 fails?</span></strong>



<em>Hilary McLean, a spokeswoman for state Superintendent Jack O?Connell, said the decision to teach gay marriage lies with local communities and school boards.



?Schools are not required to talk about marriage at all,? McLean said. ?It?s up to local school districts to decide.?



<strong>The state Education Code will be unaffected by passage or failure of Prop. 8.</strong>



The code only instructs schools to ?teach respect for marriage and committed relationships? as part of health and sex education curriculum. The code allows districts to decide against teaching health and sex education, and allows parents to pull their children from those classes or others dealing with sensitive subject matters.</em>



Also, the ads are trying to tell you that churches risk losing their tax exempt status. That's a load of crap. (But count me in the "churches SHOULD pay taxes" camp).



<a href="http://www.ocregister.com/articles/marriage-gay-prop-2201297-school-education">OC Register story</a>



No on 8. Don't discriminate.
 
And yes, <a href="http://www.ocregister.com/articles/signs-macdonald-five-2201253-fullerton-sign">you can and will be arrested for stealing political signs. </a>
 
[quote author="Trooper" date=1224807302]And yes, <a href="http://www.ocregister.com/articles/signs-macdonald-five-2201253-fullerton-sign">you can and will be arrested for stealing political signs. </a></blockquote>


I have noticed a few people on the corner of Bryan and Culver sitting next to their Yes on 8 signs.

They have 6 of them in a row and take them down every night.
 
Several new PSA's coming out for No on Prop 8. This one has Molly Ringwald and her husband... it's a spin off of the Mac vs PC commercials. LOL on HomoTracker at the end....





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Although there are definitely some resident "crazies" on the mostly Santa Ana blog "Orange Juice" they have pointed out one thing that I think is true: The very same people that have recruited the Hispanic population to stand on corners with "Yes on 8" signs are the same people that will deport them given any chance. Very sad that these people would fall for it.
 
[quote author="Trooper" date=1225062692]And a damn cute one, too !



Srsly Cayci, thanks.</blockquote>


Cute? More like smokin' <span style="color: red;">hawt!!</span>
 
Hets for Homos ! Yay !



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Jewish Mothers for No on 8, yay !



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Samuel L. Jackson weighs in....





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And here are some kids for Congregation Kol Ami in Hollywood. These are mostly children of gay and lesbian Jewish parents....at a gay wedding yesterday.



I can't help but think of them when I hear the "Yes on Prop " folks throw their spin out......when they say, "What about the children."



With this photo of the congregation's children at a gay wedding.......most children of gay parents........ I have to ask......



What about them ? Aren't they children ?



Don't they deserve to know that there is nothing "wrong" with their parents ?



Or is this all about only the children of heterosexual parents.



OK, the pic is below and I'll tell you that it's the congregation's Rabbi (Denise Eger) and her new wife (and 20 year partner), with their 16 yr-old son Ben (who is the handsome guy in the photo.....upper right corner, second from the end in a light blue dress shirt) ....as well as 28 children who attended the ceremony with their parents....both gay and straight.



<a href="http://www.kol-ami.org/">Congregation Kol Ami</a>
 
And the friends I told you about who were planning a gay wedding ?



Seems they felt positive enough about Prop 8 not passing....and held off on securing their marriage license.



Now that the vote is as close as it is, they are panicking a little bit and plan to camp out at the County Courthouse on Sunday night, in order to be some of the first to obtain their license to marry on Monday. I don't know if they've come into the ball game too late though....I doubt getting a license on Monday will guarantee you a marriage on Tuesday. Other friends of mine married in San Bernadino County last week...and it had taken them 2 weeks between the application and the next "available wedding date."



Keeping my finger crossed that my friends get to marry safely before Nov. 4.
 
<em>And the day after the gay marriage decision was handed down, as coincidence might have it, I was once again on a plane, on my way to a memorial service in Washington, D.C., for Olie Westheimer Rauh. Olie and her husband, Joseph L. Rauh Jr., who died in 1992, were old family friends. Joe, credited with making civil rights a part of the U.S. agenda, was posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1993. During his lifetime he said, ?<strong>What our generation has done is bring equality into law. The next generation has to bring equality in fact.?</em></strong>



<a href="http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid64666.asp">Story told by the mother of two gay sons</a>
 
<a href="http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/story/1358907.html">Ward Connerly says "no" on Prop 8 because it is discriminatory.</a> I will admit to being shocked as all get-out when I heard this, and I also have to admit that I (obviously) didn't know as much about him as I thought I did.



Also, <a href="http://www.republicansagainst8.com/about/">Republicans against Prop. 8</a>. Given Ronald Reagan's opposition to the Briggs Amendment, I wonder what he would have thought of Prop 8?
 
*snip from the Ward Connerly article, thx for posting Eva.



<em>But then, in 1996, I received a call from a group of UC faculty and staff members who wanted to discuss with me the issue of domestic-partner benefits. I agreed to meet. What I learned, but should have known, totally changed my perspective.



Gay couples had the same capacity for love as anyone else, the same yearning to be part of a family structure, the same desire to be accepted and to openly share their lives in peace without the disapproving glances and resentment of their fellow citizens, the same craving for happiness that those of us who are straight have.



I met a lesbian couple who had been together for 34 years. I met gay and lesbian couples who had lived together for decades, they told me, not for sex but for companionship and to satisfy the human craving to "belong" to someone.



When in doubt about public-policy matters that involve conflicting issues, I invariably go to the default position of asking myself what core values are at stake. In this case, I went to the most basic value of all, and it is stated in the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."



As I restated that passage in my mind, it dawned on me that there was no reference to sexual orientation. Only to equality based on an endowment from our Creator that included the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. With that moment of consciousness, my private thoughts yielded to this basic value.</em>
 
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