Shared driveway rules

[Tarmacpro]

When I first moved into my home my neighbor would throw these huge parties that went on until 4am with loud music and people yelling.  This happened every weekend for a month.  I constantly called the HOA, sent emails, and called the police.  The last time I complained...  he received a bill with an extra HOA penalty and his car was towed.  No more parties after that.  Eventually they learn.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

There are many reasons why you want to go through the HOA instead of directly confronting your neighbor.

A big one may be anonymity. You have to live next to this person, it's better to be on good terms with them than to have any type of animosity that could be problematic down the road (one example is what if you need them to sign off on some landscaping form?).

Additionally, it puts your HOA money to work. And... if this is an issue for other people, it puts the HOA on notice that it's something that needs to be taken care of.

You pay your HOA, use them.

 

[woodburyowner]

There are many reasons why you want to go through the HOA instead of directly confronting your neighbor.

A big one may be anonymity. You have to live next to this person, it's better to be on good terms with them than to have any type of animosity that could be problematic down the road (one example is what if you need them to sign off on some landscaping form?).

Additionally, it puts your HOA money to work. And... if this is an issue for other people, it puts the HOA on notice that it's something that needs to be taken care of.

You pay your HOA, use them.

I don't think you remain anonymous.  I have received a letter from the HOA and the neighbor complaining was mentioned in the letter..

 

[Tarmacpro]

But it's better for the HOA to do the work than letting a confrontation escalate to something worse.

 

[ZeroLot]

Is there anyone in a newer IP community SFR on a shared driveway?  I was wondering if there is any specific rules on parking on the length of the drive.

When we bought, we were assured that the neighbors closest to the street would not be able to park on the shared portion. Others on shared driveways in our community were under the same impression as well, though my neighbor seems to think the opposite. There is a language barrier (of course) and since I don't think I'll be learning mandarin anytime soon, I would like to simply present in writing the policies on this.

It's normally not a big deal, It's not that hard to reverse around his cars, but would like the driveway clear in case of emergencies. Perhaps I'll just start leaving passive aggressive post-it notes.

Is this your neighbor?

Hey, stop taking picture of zerolot's home. 

I've got stalkers on this forum!  I feel special!!  ;D

 

[lnc]

Is there anyone in a newer IP community SFR on a shared driveway?  I was wondering if there is any specific rules on parking on the length of the drive.

When we bought, we were assured that the neighbors closest to the street would not be able to park on the shared portion. Others on shared driveways in our community were under the same impression as well, though my neighbor seems to think the opposite. There is a language barrier (of course) and since I don't think I'll be learning mandarin anytime soon, I would like to simply present in writing the policies on this.

It's normally not a big deal, It's not that hard to reverse around his cars, but would like the driveway clear in case of emergencies. Perhaps I'll just start leaving passive aggressive post-it notes.

Is this your neighbor?

Hey, stop taking picture of zerolot's home. 

I've got stalkers on this forum!  I feel special!!  ;D

ZeroLot, you might want to move your nice Mercedes somewhere else since your inexperience, lack of motor skill FOB neighbor might hit your car on his way out.

However, if your neighbor is a typical American, then disregard what I just said.  They have good driving skill and they can get out of there just fine.  Please continue to park your car there.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

There are many reasons why you want to go through the HOA instead of directly confronting your neighbor.

A big one may be anonymity. You have to live next to this person, it's better to be on good terms with them than to have any type of animosity that could be problematic down the road (one example is what if you need them to sign off on some landscaping form?).

Additionally, it puts your HOA money to work. And... if this is an issue for other people, it puts the HOA on notice that it's something that needs to be taken care of.

You pay your HOA, use them.

I don't think you remain anonymous.  I have received a letter from the HOA and the neighbor complaining was mentioned in the letter..

That's interesting.

I think you should be able to request anonymity or there should be some way to file a complaint anonymously.

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

This is the biggest problem when you don't own that access to your garage in a detached condo. That piece of land where the the cars were parked belongs to a fractional interest of each homeowner and everyone has the right to file a complaint or entitled to have both cars towed. Rule of thumb is always buy a home where you own your land contiguous to the public street and abuts to the back of sidewalk. I posted this in another thread but no one seems to understand the implication until this thread. There are many more implications other than parking issues.

 

[ZeroLot]

This is the biggest problem when you don't own that access to your garage in a detached condo. That piece of land where the the cars were parked belongs to a fractional interest of each homeowner and everyone has the right to file a complaint or entitled to have both cars towed. Rule of thumb is always buy a home where you own your land contiguous to the public street and abuts to the back of sidewalk. I posted this in another thread but no one seems to understand the implication until this thread. There are many more implications other than parking issues.

Could you provide the link of the other thread?  I'd like to know what other implications there are besides parking.

Thank you.

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

I listed some other implications such as construction and repair access to the home that needs consent from either the HOA or the adjacent angry neighbors. Take for instance some zero lot homes require access to the neighbors yard in order to paint one side of the home or to repair stucco and water damage. A nasty neighbor could do a number of careless things that could damage
the foundation, stucco, increase soil settlement, crack, mold growth and even encouraging penetration of harmful insects such as foundation termites.

 

[test]

This is the biggest problem when you don't own that access to your garage in a detached condo. That piece of land where the the cars were parked belongs to a fractional interest of each homeowner and everyone has the right to file a complaint or entitled to have both cars towed. Rule of thumb is always buy a home where you own your land contiguous to the public street and abuts to the back of sidewalk. I posted this in another thread but no one seems to understand the implication until this thread. There are many more implications other than parking issues.

Isn't the public street also a shared interest?  Someone can easily block that as well.

 

[YellowFever]

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[irvinehomeowner]

For the OP, it sounds like this is a standard SFR, no motorcourt but they share a driveway (like a flag lot).

 

[bones]

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[ZeroLot]

This is the biggest problem when you don't own that access to your garage in a detached condo. That piece of land where the the cars were parked belongs to a fractional interest of each homeowner and everyone has the right to file a complaint or entitled to have both cars towed. Rule of thumb is always buy a home where you own your land contiguous to the public street and abuts to the back of sidewalk. I posted this in another thread but no one seems to understand the implication until this thread. There are many more implications other than parking issues.

It really sucks to have to pay that much money for a nice home like that but get a shared motorcourt and then have to deal with this problem forever.  Then you have to deal with it more each time the neighbors sell the house and a new neighbor moves in. 

It is actually a good thing that they may be fully mandarin-speaking people.  The thing about mandarin people is that we actually get scared if we get legal docs, demands, notice of etc.etc. in the mail.  So honestly, I would have the HOA write them a letter of demand or legal action.

With an X budget, I would rather choose motorcourt over a zero lot any day.  Home shopping in Irvine I saw waaaay too many zero lot homes.  I have no interest in confronting a neighbor over who has access to a piece of MY house.

At least with a motorcourt the association will step in to handle disputes, especially when it's a common shared drive way.  When it's a zero lot home, it's not the association's problem, it's yours.

 

[Irvinecommuter]

This is the biggest problem when you don't own that access to your garage in a detached condo. That piece of land where the the cars were parked belongs to a fractional interest of each homeowner and everyone has the right to file a complaint or entitled to have both cars towed. Rule of thumb is always buy a home where you own your land contiguous to the public street and abuts to the back of sidewalk. I posted this in another thread but no one seems to understand the implication until this thread. There are many more implications other than parking issues.

It really sucks to have to pay that much money for a nice home like that but get a shared motorcourt and then have to deal with this problem forever.  Then you have to deal with it more each time the neighbors sell the house and a new neighbor moves in. 

It is actually a good thing that they may be fully mandarin-speaking people.  The thing about mandarin people is that we actually get scared if we get legal docs, demands, notice of etc.etc. in the mail.  So honestly, I would have the HOA write them a letter of demand or legal action.

With an X budget, I would rather choose motorcourt over a zero lot any day.  Home shopping in Irvine I saw waaaay too many zero lot homes.  I have no interest in confronting a neighbor over who has access to a piece of MY house.

At least with a motorcourt the association will step in to handle disputes, especially when it's a common shared drive way.  When it's a zero lot home, it's not the association's problem, it's yours.

Definitely agree...the concept of zerolot is mindboggling to me.  The number of potential issues are too many to imagine.  People get into giant battles with their neighbors about fences, vegetation, etc...I cannot imagine having one of my walls as the boundary for my neighbor.

 

[zubs]

I was shown the documents when I bought, which is why I'm fairly certain I was right...just didn't want to have to go searching through again to find a relevant paragraph.  Was hoping someone else more well versed in the CC&Rs would point me to the right page...or there was someone else who diplomatically resolved their issues with people who live in a America and refuse to learn English. 

I guess no one gave you the memo.  Irvine is part of China.  It has been part of China since the qing qang qong dynasty.  The air space and 2 miles into Tustin and Newport Coast will also be considered a "security zone", so don't be sending your military patrols into that area.

You best learn Chinese....There are a lot of Chinese language classes in Irvine so that should help.

 

[zubs]

Here are the high school population between Asians and Whites in Irvine:

Northwood High School
Total Students: 1,442
White - 477
Asian - 753

Irvine High School
Total Students: 1,264
White - 373
Asian - 543

University High School
Total Students: 1,684
White - 606
Asian - 825

Woodbridge High School
Total Students: 1,747
White - 765
Asian - 593

Looks like Woodbridge is a hold out, but I'm sure white flight will take care of that in the near future.

Data is from this website:http://api.cde.ca.gov/Acnt2013/2013GrowthSch.aspx?allcds=30736503030285

 

[irvinehomeowner]

And that's why Austrians love Woodbridge!

 

[lnc]

What just happen here, how do we get from "share driveway"  to "high school population" all the sudden?

Regarding to high school population,  Woodbridge High have highest Whit vs Asian ration and have lowest API score among others.  Hmmmm....