someguy
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i1 said:I can see some solid benefits to having the cemetery at the original location by Portola HS. However, are you assuming that anything that is good for a developer must absolutely be bad for the city and residents? It seems like that, which imo is a poor way to make a voting judgement.someguy said:If the "Yes" votes out there had any idea how much developer money is behind this ballot measure I wonder if they would second guess their "yes" vote. I couldn't be the only one who received literally dozens of "Yes on B" mailers and repeated "Yes on B" Facebook ads... Have you noticed the multiple "Yes on B" banners with professionally shot pictures around the great park? You all think that stuff is free? But what's the point... people have made up their mind and seem to only point to data that supports their conclusions.
Not that I think we have a good city council (or else we wouldn?t have bastardized sfrs in half the city), but their job is to find win-win deals with developers
We have some good city council members. Their job is to serve the interests of their constituents, not find win-win deals with developers. The majority of Irvine citizens were very happy to hear the ARDA space was going to be used for a Veteran Cemetery. The city was going (technically had requested appropriations that were likely to be granted) to receive $30 million dollars from the fed & state government to go towards the cemetery. But after years of planning the city council voted non-unanimously (look it up to find out which council members are in the developer's pockets) at the last minute to swap the cemetery location, thus nullifying the appropriation request. Ask why. Why would they suddenly do that? Because of all of the citizens protesting over the ARDA location? Because citizens wanted 812,000 sqft of commercial space at the ARDA location? Yah, I remember all those protests too... /s I'll help you out. It's because the developers were afraid their easy FCB money would dry up if a cemetery was so close to their great park developments, so they lobbied the hell out of the city for the land swap. Then people did get pissed, they actually did protest at city hall. The city council couldn't overturn their decision, but the best they could do was put it on the ballot. Thus, measure B was born.
Speaking of shady politics, have you looked at measure D? A yes vote guarantees that citizens can't interfere with a revenue stream. What? How did that measure get on there? Who does that benefit? It's sickening how bent over some of the city councilmen are for the developers.