Saratoga vs roundtree/springhouse

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I live in Saratoga now and I like the house a lot.  It doesn't have a driveway but the layout is really good IMO.  I also like Stonegate more than PP.

None of the houses in that price range in PP really appealed to me.  I haven't gone back in awhile so I could be wrong.  You do get a bigger yard and a driveway.
 
I think there are some out in TI who have Saratoga properties but for a value standpoint and per sp footage, Pavilion Park properties seem to be better valued than IP output.  Saratoga has a Residence 2 that is 2181 sq footage at mid 800s to higher 800s, you can get that at PP for high 700s.

Depends on what you are looking for, 3bd or 4bd, living near elementary, different feel of a neighborhood of PP vs Stonegate.

I love these VS topics as it leads to people "reppin" their 'hood.
 
I am looking for downstairs bedroom. SG plan 1, RT 1/2, and SH plan 2 ( I think plan 1 in SH does't have downstairs bedroom). SG people called us to pick but PP homes are about the same price, especially RT with some included options.
 
I would call the loan officer who was supposed to pre-approve you first.  Then you will have to get on the lot list which I heard is very long.  It all depends on which Plan you want.

Taylor Morrison does wait lists by Lot number and Plan preference, not wait list.  They do it different than others.  You will have to pick which Lot you want or check in with the sales reps on which lots are not as backed up.

Plan 3, I heard was most desired and then Plan 1 was 2nd most for Springhouse.

For Roundtree, Plan 2 was the most desired, then Plan 1.  Plan 4 is 3rd.  And last was their Plan 3, which had the Next Gen room, didn't do as well as Springhouse's version w the guest suite. 
 
bones said:
I'm not looking in this square footage or price range but I always think:

Driveway > no driveway

And if PP is actually cheaper, then it's a no brainer.  As many have discussed before, location is pretty much the same.

Agreed generally but with the smaller lots, builders sacrifice interior space/design for driveway.  Saratoga has a open feel to it because it is basically a square/rectangle.  If you add a driveway to it, the garage gets shoved back and the downstairs feels cramped.  Mendecino suffers from this in that it has odd corners and layouts.
 
Which one do you think would retain value better in the long-run (10 years from now)?

btw, new Saratoga listing this morning - 311 Berksire ($959,000)

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/311-Berkshire-92620/home/52386243?utm_medium=email&utm_content=view_details&utm_source=myredfin&utm_campaign=listings_update
 
Goriot said:
Which one do you think would retain value better in the long-run (10 years from now)?

btw, new Saratoga listing this morning - 311 Berksire ($959,000)

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/311-Berkshire-92620/home/52386243?utm_medium=email&utm_content=view_details&utm_source=myredfin&utm_campaign=listings_update

It's hard to say for me.  PP houses themselves are "better" in that they have bigger yards and driveways.  The neighborhood has a better feel as well.  But I don't know how what the community is going to look like in 10 years or how it is viewed by potential buyers. 
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Another thing to consider is MRs. It's probably higher in PP than in Stonegate.

Also in PP MR might go up as per them is this true for all the new communities in irvine? Or will it be more for fivepoints as they just started the community?
 
acpaps said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Another thing to consider is MRs. It's probably higher in PP than in Stonegate.

Also in PP MR might will go up as per them is this true for all the new communities in irvine? Or will it be more for fivepoints as they just started the community?

i fixed that for you. i bought in columbus square in december of 2012 and one of the MR bonds goes up every year (using some sort of inflation metric). Irvine wont be any different.
 
qwerty said:
acpaps said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Another thing to consider is MRs. It's probably higher in PP than in Stonegate.

Also in PP MR might will go up as per them is this true for all the new communities in irvine? Or will it be more for fivepoints as they just started the community?

i fixed that for you. i bought in columbus square in december of 2012 and one of the MR bonds goes up every year (using some sort of inflation metric). Irvine wont be any different.
I don't think the TIC MRs go up... but someone who actually bought there (Woodbury, PS, Stonegate, LagAlt) can confirm.
 
acpaps said:
How much is the (average) increase for you?

all the the same plans as mine went up 1.7% and 4.2%, im guessing the other plans went up by the same amount since they must be using the same inflation metric. both of them increased, thought it was supposed to be just one. one went up $73 and the other went up $90. so this year ill be paying 6700 in MR
 
irvinehomeowner said:
qwerty said:
acpaps said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Another thing to consider is MRs. It's probably higher in PP than in Stonegate.

Also in PP MR might will go up as per them is this true for all the new communities in irvine? Or will it be more for fivepoints as they just started the community?

i fixed that for you. i bought in columbus square in december of 2012 and one of the MR bonds goes up every year (using some sort of inflation metric). Irvine wont be any different.
I don't think the TIC MRs go up... but someone who actually bought there (Woodbury, PS, Stonegate, LagAlt) can confirm.

perhaps not TIC, but i think test posted something that indicated the Pavilion Park ones did increase.
 
qwerty said:
irvinehomeowner said:
qwerty said:
acpaps said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Another thing to consider is MRs. It's probably higher in PP than in Stonegate.

Also in PP MR might will go up as per them is this true for all the new communities in irvine? Or will it be more for fivepoints as they just started the community?

i fixed that for you. i bought in columbus square in december of 2012 and one of the MR bonds goes up every year (using some sort of inflation metric). Irvine wont be any different.
I don't think the TIC MRs go up... but someone who actually bought there (Woodbury, PS, Stonegate, LagAlt) can confirm.

perhaps not TIC, but i think test posted something that indicated the Pavilion Park ones did increase.

Yeah...there is language in the brochure that says that the MR may go up.  TIC brochure don't lock in on a specific rate. 
 
Per the brochure, it can go up 2% per year.  So if you got Plan 1, $4891 in Mello Roos the first year, the max it can go up is $99.62 per year.  A whopping $8.30 per month.  Shouldn't be buying a home in the $900k range if this is a deal breaker for you.

qwerty said:
irvinehomeowner said:
qwerty said:
acpaps said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Another thing to consider is MRs. It's probably higher in PP than in Stonegate.

Also in PP MR might will go up as per them is this true for all the new communities in irvine? Or will it be more for fivepoints as they just started the community?

i fixed that for you. i bought in columbus square in december of 2012 and one of the MR bonds goes up every year (using some sort of inflation metric). Irvine wont be any different.
I don't think the TIC MRs go up... but someone who actually bought there (Woodbury, PS, Stonegate, LagAlt) can confirm.

perhaps not TIC, but i think test posted something that indicated the Pavilion Park ones did increase.
 
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