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Trump in Palm Beach: a Personal Note
Not everything about Donald Trump is so bad. In today?s New York Times? article about Mar-a-Lago, Trump?s private club in Palm Beach and, perhaps, the site of the winter White House, one paragraph jumped out at me:

Mr. Trump?s arrival was greeted with sneers by the Palm Beach elite, and he opened up Mar-a-Lago?s membership to Jews and African-Americans, who had been excluded from other members-only establishments. He was also the first club owner on the island to admit an openly gay couple.

It happens I used to live in Palm Beach ? many years ago. My parents had sold their dress-making business in Chicago and taken the proceeds and set up a dress store on Worth Avenue in Palm Beach. I was 13-years-old. I went to public school, where many of the kids were virulently anti-Semitic. I was a tennis player ? pretty good for my age (I quit two years later because I was no longer). If you wanted to play seriously, you really had to play at a private club, but there was only one club on the island that would allow Jews in the door. It was a modest club with four courts, where the son of the local drugstore-owner, who played at Duke, also played. (He was also Jewish.)

My parents, who fled Palm Beach after a year, used to use the initials ?SFG? (strictly for gentiles) to describe the various institutions on the island. I have never hated a place the way I hated Palm Beach. I once wrote a memoir of my youth for In These Times in which I said that if one town in America were to be sacrificed for a nuclear attack, I would choose Palm Beach. (I got angry letters back.)

Blacks on the island? There were maids and cooks, but at that time (if I?m not mistaken) they couldn?t actually sleep on the island and had to get off by night and return in the morning. There may have been exceptions, but that was the tenor of the place. So I read with interest about Trump?s decision to integrate Mar-a-Lago, even if it were only among the upper and upper-middle class
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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/100895
 
Stricken ex-beauty queen emotionally thanks Trump
Donald Trump says it was the most beautiful moment he's had on the campaign trail.

At a rally on Tuesday, former Miss Wisconsin Melissa Young -- who told Trump she is suffering from an incurable illness -- emotionally thanked the billionaire developer for helping her and her young son financially.

"I wanted to thank you," Young said as she stood up in the crowd at the campaign event in Janesville, Wisconsin.

"Because through you and your organizations, my son, who is Mexican-American, seven years old...and just being able to stand on that stage with you in 2005, and the outpouring of love that came from that ultimately provided my son when he graduates high school with a full ride to college."

"I remember that. Such a beautiful woman," Trump said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/trump-miss-wisconsin-emotional-moment/
 
Liar Loan said:
Stricken ex-beauty queen emotionally thanks Trump
Donald Trump says it was the most beautiful moment he's had on the campaign trail.

At a rally on Tuesday, former Miss Wisconsin Melissa Young -- who told Trump she is suffering from an incurable illness -- emotionally thanked the billionaire developer for helping her and her young son financially.

"I wanted to thank you," Young said as she stood up in the crowd at the campaign event in Janesville, Wisconsin.

"Because through you and your organizations, my son, who is Mexican-American, seven years old...and just being able to stand on that stage with you in 2005, and the outpouring of love that came from that ultimately provided my son when he graduates high school with a full ride to college."

"I remember that. Such a beautiful woman," Trump said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/trump-miss-wisconsin-emotional-moment/

You understand that that's not what racism is right?
 
Orthodox Child with Rare Ailment is Rescued Aboard Tycoon?s Jet
July 20, 1988
NEW YORK

The private Boeing 727 of real estate tycoon Donald Trump arrived from Los Angeles at LaGuardia Airport Tuesday morning, carrying aboard an Orthodox Jewish child with a rare and still undiagnosed breathing illness.

The child, Andrew Ten, age 3, arrived with his parents ? accompanied by three nurses who attend to him around the clock ? to try to seek medical help in the New York area.

Trump made his plane available for the special trip to New York after the boy?s parents, Judy and Harold Ten, called Trump and told him of their plight.

Commercial airlines refused to fly the child because he could not travel without an elaborate life-support system, which includes a portable oxygen tank, a suction machine, a breathing bag and an adrenaline syringe.

?Mr. Trump did not hesitate when we called him up. He said ?yes, I?ll send my plane out,'? 29-year-old Harold Ten recalled shortly after he landed here Tuesday morning.

Asked why he thought Trump made his private jet available, Ten replied, ?Because he is a good man. He has three children of his own and he knows what being a parent is all about.?

Ten said he believes that Trump fulfilled the Talmudic saying that ?he who saves one person?s life is as if he saved the entire world.?

Among the relatives at the airport to greet the child and his parents were the paternal grandparents of the sick boy.

?Donald Trump is a miracle, just a miracle,? said grandmother Feigy Ten, who came to the airport with her husband, Phillip Ten.

Both grandparents thanked Trump?s generosity over and over again.

Andrew, who is called by his Hebrew name, Avraham Moshe, was taken from the airport to the Schneider Children?s Hospital of Long Island Jewish Medical Center for treatment and evaluation.
https://www.jta.org/1988/07/20/arch...th-rare-ailment-is-rescued-aboard-tycoons-jet
 
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Bus driver receives Trump check, headed for Rachael Ray show

Published November 7, 2013

Donald J. Trump wasn?t there himself.

But in the well-appointed office of Mayor Byron W. Brown, a check for $10,000 from the real estate mogul was presented to the hero bus driver who brought a woman on the brink of suicide to safety.

?Although I know to you it was just a warm-hearted first response to a dangerous situation,? Trump wrote to Darnell J. Barton, ?your quick thinking resulted in a life being saved, and for that you should be rewarded.?

The City Hall ceremony was just the latest in a string of high-profile appearances for Barton since he stopped his bus on Oct. 18 on an Elmwood Avenue overpass and counseled a distraught woman who was contemplating suicide.
http://buffalonews.com/2013/11/07/bus-driver-receives-trump-check-headed-for-rachael-ray-show/
 
Never black or white (when it?s republican or Democrat)

Racism is often in the eye of the beholder.  Was President Obama being racist when he commented on working-class voters: "they get bitter; they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations"?  Was Obama being racist when he called Libya a "[s---] show?"  Was Bill Clinton being racist when he remarked about President Obama to Senator Kennedy, "A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags"?

Now is the time for the pundits to self-righteously pontificate on their own lack of racism.  The more intense their protests, the more suspect should be their motives.  Viewers should remember all the great champions of women's issues who turned out to be abusers of women.  The recent women's liberation protests appear to have backfired on the people who thought their attacks on conservatives would be successful.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/01/the_real_reason_democrats_are_throwing_such_a_fit_about_shole_countries.html
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Liar Loan said:
Stricken ex-beauty queen emotionally thanks Trump
Donald Trump says it was the most beautiful moment he's had on the campaign trail.

At a rally on Tuesday, former Miss Wisconsin Melissa Young -- who told Trump she is suffering from an incurable illness -- emotionally thanked the billionaire developer for helping her and her young son financially.

"I wanted to thank you," Young said as she stood up in the crowd at the campaign event in Janesville, Wisconsin.

"Because through you and your organizations, my son, who is Mexican-American, seven years old...and just being able to stand on that stage with you in 2005, and the outpouring of love that came from that ultimately provided my son when he graduates high school with a full ride to college."

"I remember that. Such a beautiful woman," Trump said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/trump-miss-wisconsin-emotional-moment/

You understand that that's not what racism is right?

Correct.  Helping a sick young boy who is Mexican is not racism.
 
morekaos said:
Never black or white (when it?s republican or Democrat)

Racism is often in the eye of the beholder.  Was President Obama being racist when he commented on working-class voters: "they get bitter; they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations"?  Was Obama being racist when he called Libya a "[s---] show?"  Was Bill Clinton being racist when he remarked about President Obama to Senator Kennedy, "A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags"?

Now is the time for the pundits to self-righteously pontificate on their own lack of racism.  The more intense their protests, the more suspect should be their motives.  Viewers should remember all the great champions of women's issues who turned out to be abusers of women.  The recent women's liberation protests appear to have backfired on the people who thought their attacks on conservatives would be successful.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/01/the_real_reason_democrats_are_throwing_such_a_fit_about_shole_countries.html

No, No, yes.  See...that was easy.

You understand that Dems basically called out their own and drummed them out of positions of power while GOP shielded people like Roy Moore, Donald Trump, and others? 

 
Liar Loan said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Liar Loan said:
Stricken ex-beauty queen emotionally thanks Trump
Donald Trump says it was the most beautiful moment he's had on the campaign trail.

At a rally on Tuesday, former Miss Wisconsin Melissa Young -- who told Trump she is suffering from an incurable illness -- emotionally thanked the billionaire developer for helping her and her young son financially.

"I wanted to thank you," Young said as she stood up in the crowd at the campaign event in Janesville, Wisconsin.

"Because through you and your organizations, my son, who is Mexican-American, seven years old...and just being able to stand on that stage with you in 2005, and the outpouring of love that came from that ultimately provided my son when he graduates high school with a full ride to college."

"I remember that. Such a beautiful woman," Trump said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/trump-miss-wisconsin-emotional-moment/

You understand that that's not what racism is right?

Correct.  Helping a sick young boy who is Mexican is not racism.

This is basically the equivalent of saying I can't be racist because I have an African American friend.

Liar...do you really want to understand racism and what it is or do you want to just defend Trump?  If it is latter, this conversation is pointless.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
morekaos said:
Never black or white (when it?s republican or Democrat)

Racism is often in the eye of the beholder.  Was President Obama being racist when he commented on working-class voters: "they get bitter; they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations"?  Was Obama being racist when he called Libya a "[s---] show?"  Was Bill Clinton being racist when he remarked about President Obama to Senator Kennedy, "A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags"?

Now is the time for the pundits to self-righteously pontificate on their own lack of racism.  The more intense their protests, the more suspect should be their motives.  Viewers should remember all the great champions of women's issues who turned out to be abusers of women.  The recent women's liberation protests appear to have backfired on the people who thought their attacks on conservatives would be successful.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/01/the_real_reason_democrats_are_throwing_such_a_fit_about_shole_countries.html

No, No, yes.  See...that was easy.

You understand that Dems basically called out their own and drummed them out of positions of power while GOP shielded people like Roy Moore, Donald Trump, and others? 

You see? I would say yes, yes, and yes...but to be truthful my answer is, I really don?t give a rats.  I do care that those two championed political positions that affected the country and my pocketbook in a negative manner.  Eye of the beholder.
 
morekaos said:
Irvinecommuter said:
morekaos said:
Never black or white (when it?s republican or Democrat)

Racism is often in the eye of the beholder.  Was President Obama being racist when he commented on working-class voters: "they get bitter; they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations"?  Was Obama being racist when he called Libya a "[s---] show?"  Was Bill Clinton being racist when he remarked about President Obama to Senator Kennedy, "A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags"?

Now is the time for the pundits to self-righteously pontificate on their own lack of racism.  The more intense their protests, the more suspect should be their motives.  Viewers should remember all the great champions of women's issues who turned out to be abusers of women.  The recent women's liberation protests appear to have backfired on the people who thought their attacks on conservatives would be successful.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/01/the_real_reason_democrats_are_throwing_such_a_fit_about_shole_countries.html

No, No, yes.  See...that was easy.

You understand that Dems basically called out their own and drummed them out of positions of power while GOP shielded people like Roy Moore, Donald Trump, and others? 

You see? I would say yes, yes, and yes...but to be truthful my answer is, I really don?t give a rats.  I do care that those two championed political positions that affected the country and my pocketbook in a negative manner.  Eye of the beholder.

I totally understand that you don't care about racism or what it means or how it affects society and people.  I also understand that you care about your pocketbook first and foremost.  That is why the LOL comment above. 

You are at least honest unlike most Trump supporters who defend him by saying that he is not racist.  Just say, I don't care if Trump rounded up all the non-white people as long as I get more money as a result.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Liar Loan said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Liar Loan said:
Stricken ex-beauty queen emotionally thanks Trump
Donald Trump says it was the most beautiful moment he's had on the campaign trail.

At a rally on Tuesday, former Miss Wisconsin Melissa Young -- who told Trump she is suffering from an incurable illness -- emotionally thanked the billionaire developer for helping her and her young son financially.

"I wanted to thank you," Young said as she stood up in the crowd at the campaign event in Janesville, Wisconsin.

"Because through you and your organizations, my son, who is Mexican-American, seven years old...and just being able to stand on that stage with you in 2005, and the outpouring of love that came from that ultimately provided my son when he graduates high school with a full ride to college."

"I remember that. Such a beautiful woman," Trump said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/trump-miss-wisconsin-emotional-moment/

You understand that that's not what racism is right?

Correct.  Helping a sick young boy who is Mexican is not racism.

This is basically the equivalent of saying I can't be racist because I have an African American friend.

Liar...do you really want to understand racism and what it is or do you want to just defend Trump?  If it is latter, this conversation is pointless.

You're making a bad assumption here.  My posts were in response to your comment about Trump's history.
 
Really, you're making two bad assumptions because you also assume I don't understand what racism is. That is typical liberal condescension on your part.

You'll never convince anybody of anything when your words drip with this type of condescension.  I have many liberal friends, but the one thing that makes them worth listening to is that they don't talk down to others that think differently from them.
 
Liar Loan said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Liar Loan said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Liar Loan said:
Stricken ex-beauty queen emotionally thanks Trump
Donald Trump says it was the most beautiful moment he's had on the campaign trail.

At a rally on Tuesday, former Miss Wisconsin Melissa Young -- who told Trump she is suffering from an incurable illness -- emotionally thanked the billionaire developer for helping her and her young son financially.

"I wanted to thank you," Young said as she stood up in the crowd at the campaign event in Janesville, Wisconsin.

"Because through you and your organizations, my son, who is Mexican-American, seven years old...and just being able to stand on that stage with you in 2005, and the outpouring of love that came from that ultimately provided my son when he graduates high school with a full ride to college."

"I remember that. Such a beautiful woman," Trump said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/trump-miss-wisconsin-emotional-moment/

You understand that that's not what racism is right?

Correct.  Helping a sick young boy who is Mexican is not racism.

This is basically the equivalent of saying I can't be racist because I have an African American friend.

Liar...do you really want to understand racism and what it is or do you want to just defend Trump?  If it is latter, this conversation is pointless.

You're making a bad assumption here.  My posts were in response to your comment about Trump's history.

Again...it is the equivalent of pointing out that Trump has non-white friends.  I am not assuming anything...if you somehow believe that Trump is not racist and the comment he made last week was not racist, the discussion is futile.  It is clear as as day where Trump stands.  You can still support him but just don't tell me that he is not racists or promotes white nationalism. 

Racism is not subjective nor is it political.  FDR did a lot to help this country but his actions re Japanese American was deplorable.  Eisenhower did a lot to help this country but his actions to forcibly deport Mexican Americans was also deplorable. 

Again...going back to my post, it is not about the color of the candidates or their background.
 
Liar Loan said:
Really, you're making two bad assumptions because you also assume I don't understand what racism is. That is typical liberal condescension on your part.

You'll never convince anybody of anything when your words drip with this type of condescension.  I have many liberal friends, but the one thing that makes them worth listening to is that they don't talk down to others that think differently from them.

Love it...liberal condescension is always the go to dismissal argument.  Yet conservatives always like to tell me to get over it and you don't understand.

Tell me then why you are pointing those incidents about Trump if you understand racism.  The fact that you point those incidents shows me that you don't understand racism and why Trump is racist.


 
Again, that?s silly. I don?t think he is a racist, and many others agree. By the way, (not that I think it matters)  I?m not white. Like I was pointing out, eye of the beholder. The fact that I also agree with his politics and methods is a separate issue.
 
morekaos said:
Again, that?s silly. I don?t think he is a racist, and many others agree. Like I was pointing out, eye of the beholder. The fact that I also agree with his politics and methods is a separate issue.

You literally said that you don't care and your comments have made it abundantly clear that you don't care.  You also don't bother to understand what racism is or why Trump is racist.  Racism is not subjective, the fact that you claim it is makes it obvious that you don't understand or don't care.

Just because other people agree with you does not make your view more valid.  On this day that we mark and celebrate the birth of Dr. King, a reminder that a vast majority of American did not agree with the Civil Rights Movement or what Dr. King was leading.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...vil-rights-protesters/?utm_term=.6a3fe96e643a

By the way, (not that I think it matters)  I?m not white.

and yet you felt it important enough to mention in this discussion.

 
That?s again, my point. You and I see racism very differently. You seem to think you have the only righteous  definition and anyone who dares see it differently is a non enlightened Neanderthal. Happy to be a deplorable. I am not alone. Elections bare out that hard fact.
 
morekaos said:
That?s again, my point. You and I see racism very differently. You seem to think you have the only righteous  definition and anyone who dares see it differently is a non enlightened Neanderthal. Happy to be a deplorable. I am not alone. Elections bare out that hard fact.

Again...racism is not subjective.  It exists and is factual.  Whether you choose to ignore them subjective.  Just like climate change.

The appeal to "election" is pretty silly considering Trump lost the popular vote by 3+ million votes, he won because we have an archaic system that puts emphasis on geography over population, and a big chunk of Trump supporters are white and motivated out of fears about non-white people taking over.
https://www.vox.com/2018/1/11/16880804/trump-shithole-countries-racism

Of course, Trump felt that the his comment was totally fine because it would appeal to his base.

And again, just because there are others who have your belief system does not change reality or facts. 


 
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