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Penn. AG: Trump Said Anti-Semitic Attacks Are Sometimes ?Reverse?

When asked on Tuesday about the recent wave of anti-Semitic threats and property destruction, President Donald Trump allegedly said that ?sometimes it?s the reverse.? The remark was made to a gathering of state attorneys general, according to Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro. ?He just said, ?Sometimes it?s the reverse, to make people?or to make others?look bad,? and he used the word ?reverse? I would say two or three times in his comments,? Shapiro said. ?He did say at the top that it was reprehensible.? He added that the remarks ?didn?t make a whole lot of sense to me.? Trump is expected to address these issues during an address to a joint session of Congress on Tuesday night.

Penn. AG: Trump Said Anti-Semitic Attacks Are Sometimes ?Reverse?http://thebea.st/2mBiAiqvia @thedailybeast
 
morekaos said:
2018 elections will be the nail in the coffin.  If they lose a veto proof Senate they are doomed and they know it.  The only way out is keep the base pissed for 2 years...that will be tough if not impossible if Trump succeeds even a bit.  As I said the real terror for them is not if he fails its if he succeeds.

It gets worse than that. 2018 has lots of D seats at play and with a party that is in disarray there's a reasonable chance to hand the Rs a 60+ majority in the Senate. Congress is not going to change. There's a high chance that another SCOTUS might get replaced. We are getting close to 2/3 of states having a R legislature. Did someone say Constitutional Amendment?
 
Perspective said:
Is this "protecting the Constitution" and "respecting states' rights" Republicans repeatedly claim they support?

Attorney General Jeff Sessions Just Hinted at a Crackdown on Legal Marijuanahttps://www.yahoo.com/news/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-just-153433176.html

IMO, it should be legal.  Fact is, it's not legal.  If your state allows it, it's still not legal.  Hopefully, it will be legal one day.  No, I don't use it, but am considering it for medical reasons.

I heard that the crackdown would be on recreational use.

On a side note, from a centrist/libertarian perspective...  It's nice to see liberals finally acknowledging state rights.

 
peppy said:
You cannot control who likes you, but you can control why they like you. Trump's ethno-nationalism is certainly a big part of it.
For many of the same ignorant reasons many people hate him, they like him. 
 
spootieho said:
Perspective said:
Is this "protecting the Constitution" and "respecting states' rights" Republicans repeatedly claim they support?

Attorney General Jeff Sessions Just Hinted at a Crackdown on Legal Marijuanahttps://www.yahoo.com/news/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-just-153433176.html

IMO, it should be legal.  Fact is, it's not legal.  If your state allows it, it's still not legal.  Hopefully, it will be legal one day.  No, I don't use it, but am considering it for medical reasons.

I heard that the crackdown would be on recreational use.

On a side note, from a centrist/libertarian perspective...  It's nice to see liberals finally acknowledging state rights.

Um, that's a bit over-simplistic. A strict Constitutionalist should argue the 10th Amendment reserves for the states, the right to decide what substances are legal to ingest. Many states have decided for themselves.
 
Perspective said:
spootieho said:
Perspective said:
Is this "protecting the Constitution" and "respecting states' rights" Republicans repeatedly claim they support?

Attorney General Jeff Sessions Just Hinted at a Crackdown on Legal Marijuanahttps://www.yahoo.com/news/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-just-153433176.html

IMO, it should be legal.  Fact is, it's not legal.  If your state allows it, it's still not legal.  Hopefully, it will be legal one day.  No, I don't use it, but am considering it for medical reasons.

I heard that the crackdown would be on recreational use.

On a side note, from a centrist/libertarian perspective...  It's nice to see liberals finally acknowledging state rights.

Um, that's a bit over-simplistic. A strict Constitutionalist should argue the 10th Amendment reserves for the states, the right to decide what substances are legal to ingest. Many states have decided for themselves.

Well, depends on what you are talking about. It's a different standard when it comes to bathrooms than legalized drugs.
 
morekaos said:
One has to do with commerce in the commerce clause, the other is social engineering.

But why should the federal government treat them any differently if it's just about state rights? And you know it's just as much about bathrooms as it was about water fountains in a different "social engineering" experiment.

The Commerce Clause defense is a "big government" defense. By that reasoning and then banning the growing and consuming of it on your own property for medical use the government is essentially able to regulate anything it wants.
 
Why the press should call out politicians when they lie

And why lying isn?t the same as talking nonsense

http://www.economist.com/news/books...onsense-why-press-should-call-out-politicians

HIS inauguration was the biggest ever. Donald Trump could not make it through the first days of his presidency without saying something that was demonstrably untrue. The New York Times dubbed it a ?falsehood?. When Mr Trump said that over 3m people had voted illegally, the Times headline was sharper: ?Trump Repeats Lie About Popular Vote in Meeting with Lawmakers?. That word keeps recurring. CNN and MSNBC (both cable-news stations) recently said that Mr Trump had lied about the murder rate being the highest in almost a half-century. (It is in fact near historical lows.) Mr Trump says a lot of things that are nakedly false. Are they all lies?
There is a difference between falsehood and lying. The Oxford English Dictionary defines a ?lie? as a ?false statement made with intent to deceive?. It says ?falsehood? is ?an uttered untruth; a lie. Also false statements, uttered untruth, in general.? Falsehood is thus the wider word, covering lying and ?uttered untruth, in general?. Lying requires an intent to deceive?which implies knowing that what you?re saying isn?t true.

What does a journalist know about the contents of Donald Trump?s mind? Certainly, the president cannot resist talking up his own greatness. Some have accused him of suffering from narcissistic personality disorder. Long-distance mental-health diagnoses are beyond the remit of the language columnist. But the media?s overuse of ?lie? indicates that journalists gloss all too easily over the fine distinction between ?lie? and ?falsehood?.

Certain verbs, ?factive? ones, can be used only when the information that follows is true. You can?t say, ?He admitted that the moon was made of styrofoam? or ?She learned that the UN was poisoning the water supply? unless you are aiming for a comic or jarring effect. ?Admit?, ?learn? and other words like them presuppose the truth of the following clause.

?Lie? is special, a special kind of ?anti-factive? verb. Not only must the information in question be false, but the user of the verb ?to lie? must know?or have very good reason to believe?that the speaker knows it to be false. If Mr Trump really does have a pathological need to believe fantastic things about his greatness, he may very well think that he must have beaten Hillary Clinton in the popular vote, and that the only reason he didn?t was down to the millions of illegal votes.


For a ?lie?, Mr Trump would have to have known the truth. If he did, he told a whopper that immediately gave rise to demands for proof?proof he could not provide. Mr Trump did not modify his words, back down or duck further questions. If he was lying, he was setting himself up for an ever-bigger embarrassment. Instead, the president doubled down, promising a thorough investigation into voter fraud. It?s possible that he believes his own guff. The same goes for the murder rate: Mr Trump said something wildly wrong about something easily checkable, leaving an adviser, Kellyanne Conway, flailing to cover for him by saying that Mr Trump may have been ?relying on data perhaps for a particular area; I don?t know who gave him that data?.

Using ?lie? strictly is not easy; it is impossible to know another mind perfectly. But politics often has a way of leaving evidence: e-mails, memos, witnesses. Michael Flynn, briefly Mr Trump?s national security adviser, said he never discussed sanctions with Russia?s ambassador. The Washington Post reported that America?s spies knew otherwise. He had to resign.
Journalists should be tough when powerful people say untrue things. When those statements first hit the headlines, ?false? packs plenty of punch. Reporters should demand to know the reason for the false statements. In cases like Mr Flynn?s, with clear evidence, they can say ?he lied?. In cases like that of Mr Trump and the murder rate, journalists should demand to know his sources, perhaps asking whether the president trusts conspiracy-theorist websites over his own FBI. It hardly spares Mr Trump to call him ?deluded? rather than a liar. Finally, there is the possibility that the president simply has no regard for the truth at all, not even caring whether he?s right or wrong. In that case, the press lacks an easy term for this kind of falsehood. Many won?t print ?bullshit?, one proposed suggestion.

Using exact terms will only make it more powerful when the press catches Mr Trump red-handed in a ?lie?. Reporters can be patient as well as precise. His presidency is still young.
 
peppy said:
morekaos said:
One has to do with commerce in the commerce clause, the other is social engineering.

But why should the federal government treat them any differently if it's just about state rights? And you know it's just as much about bathrooms as it was about water fountains in a different "social engineering" experiment.

The Commerce Clause defense is a "big government" defense. By that reasoning and then banning the growing and consuming of it on your own property for medical use the government is essentially able to regulate anything it wants.
Commerce and Tax clauses are the ways the feds can directly regulate the states, but there are indirect ways also.  The reason there used to be a nationwide 55 speed limit is because feds threatened to withhold highway funds for any state that does not enact a 55 speed limit.  Sanctuary cities/states may soon see their fed funding dry up and may have to comply with federal immigration law, no commerce clause or tax clause stick required.
 
Happiness said:
peppy said:
morekaos said:
One has to do with commerce in the commerce clause, the other is social engineering.

But why should the federal government treat them any differently if it's just about state rights? And you know it's just as much about bathrooms as it was about water fountains in a different "social engineering" experiment.

The Commerce Clause defense is a "big government" defense. By that reasoning and then banning the growing and consuming of it on your own property for medical use the government is essentially able to regulate anything it wants.
Commerce and Tax clauses are the ways the feds can directly regulate the states, but there are indirect ways also.  The reason there used to be a nationwide 55 speed limit is because feds threatened to withhold highway funds for any state that does not enact a 55 speed limit.  Sanctuary cities/states may soon see their fed funding dry up and may have to comply with federal immigration law, no commerce clause or tax clause stick required.

Maybe new funding can be made conditional, but this would have to go through Congress as well. I foresee a constitutional challenge if it comes down to this. Retroactively making grants conditional without the involvement of Congress is not likely to go anywhere.

Rather than complying with the request to have city policy act as federal agents that enforce federal immigration law, these cities will spend their energy challenging any commandeering of funds in court.
 
Perspective said:
Um, that's a bit over-simplistic. A strict Constitutionalist should argue the 10th Amendment reserves for the states, the right to decide what substances are legal to ingest. Many states have decided for themselves.
What's ideal does not represent actual reality.  States don't have as many rights as they should have.

Federal law makes it illegal.  Good luck fighting that in court.  IMO, the only way that it changes is with congress.

But like I said...  I'm glad to see others finally start caring about state rights. 
 
peppy said:
And you know it's just as much about bathrooms as it was about water fountains in a different "social engineering" experiment.
Sorry, but you know you are being dishonest when you say this.  You know that there's more to it. 
 
This is getting way off topic but the weed biz will never come into its own until the feds legalize it.  For now no matter what a state says no bank or financial institution will touch these places.  No payroll, no tax withholding no line of credit.  No federally backed bank will open an account for them.  That is why it is mainly a cash on cash business with tons of armed guards and cameras.  These places get knocked over daily, it is not a safe business to own.  The Fed still holds all the cards so if you really want it to grow then work for legalization on the federal level...otherwise its the law of the land and the law says its illegal.
 
Trump first thing was to denounce hate and all the crimes associated with it. So there you go.
 
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