Palo Alto in Stonegate by KB
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I actually think this winter you'll see a larger fill of builder standing inventory (not a problem level just something builders in Irvine haven't been used to). Of course, it could also just be that people are really waiting to see BP but it seems like a slower "summer" market. But again, I could be crazy or it could just be the optimistic view of a guy looking to move up to a bigger place from the current smaller place.
The site map posted above does't appear to be all the lots. This OC Register article says they're doing 121 homes. I didn't count, but the site plan definitely doesn't show 121.
http://www.ocregister.com/lansner/percent-667978-homes-year.html
I wasn't a fan of the Plan 3 floorplan. I like open floorplans, but it was hard to tell where the kitchen ended and the great room began - kinda felt like a massive kitchen with a sitting area.
Irvine Pacific hit the right balance for us at Strada. The kitchens aren't too big, relative to the great room, and the master baths aren't too big, relative to the master bedrooms. They're "million dollar plus" homes at Strada too, so I think you have to upgrade all of the finishes to compensate for the smaller kitchens and master baths.
Nothing at Palo Alto made me think, "Damn, I wish I hadn't just made a $30K deposit at Strada."
The IUSD schools at Strada were? We'll be in IUSD. The sales person told me they have ~60 lots and will likely have 120+ soon at Stonegate.
The tiny lots would be a dealbreaker for us at Palo Alto. Your kitchen shouldn't be bigger than your living room, nor bigger than your backyard.
That upstairs loft in the plan 2 was gigantic. I think you could either make it a master retreat or a bedroom with full bath. My wife loved the upstairs of the plan 2. But downstairs was meh. Reminded me of the Layfayette's where the actual family room is just way too small (at least for my taste). That said, I clearly don't have the same test as others since those homes have sold like crazy (might have just as much to do with fact that in general they have nice lots for Irvine and the price point is basically the lowest SFR outside of Cypress Village). But I went again after Palo Alto and still felt the same thing...the family rooms in all of those houses are so small (and that plan 3, without the bar just has so much wasted space in that family room).AW said:
Same here, layouts are decent, just not right on certain aspects.
Hoping that bp will surprise us in person as we've already seen the floor plans, but what's the point, all the nice lots will have an up charge and be sold to cash buyers...
When is this dang housing bubble gonna burst, lol
Hoping that bp will surprise us in person as we've already seen the floor plans, but what's the point, all the nice lots will have an up charge and be sold to cash buyers...
When is this dang housing bubble gonna burst, lol
I don't expect a burst but I actually think we are at the peak, but not vs. what we saw last time (in terms of a long-term 20-30% reduction...albeit the trough didn't last long in Irvine). I think we are in for a couple year window of no appreciation to slight downward appreciation. More and more listings seem to be stalling and a lot more price reductions. To USC's points (and he is clearly closer to the market then this layman), if you price it fair, it will sell and sell quick, but I think the definition is "fair" price. A lot of stuff sold at prices which weren't "fair" market price but got the right person and a lot of homes currently on the market have an inflated price tag (which is evident by what I've seen as an uptick in "price reductions"). You are also seeing a lot of the Irvine home tracks stall a bit as well and people can get new construction without significant wait lists (with some exceptions). No longer is the mentality (and this is from speaking to multiple reps at various builders in Irvine) of the buyer...sign me up, I'll take it, the focus is becoming more on location (and by this I mean other then being in "Irvine")...but lot size, cul de sac location...etc. Obviously its always been important but back in 11, 12, and 13, rare to be able to pick location...you were just lucky to get a new construction build...now the good lots go and go quick but more tracks have stuff stall if it isn't that "unique" lot.AW said:
I actually think this winter you'll see a larger fill of builder standing inventory (not a problem level just something builders in Irvine haven't been used to). Of course, it could also just be that people are really waiting to see BP but it seems like a slower "summer" market. But again, I could be crazy or it could just be the optimistic view of a guy looking to move up to a bigger place from the current smaller place.
aquabliss said:
The site map posted above does't appear to be all the lots. This OC Register article says they're doing 121 homes. I didn't count, but the site plan definitely doesn't show 121.
http://www.ocregister.com/lansner/percent-667978-homes-year.html
Was just there yesterday. They said nothing was sold, but busily making calls, guess they had enough commits.
What's tricky on that map is that the walden street isn't single loaded, there's la fayette behind those houses, they just excluded them on the pic since it wasn't their property.
What's tricky on that map is that the walden street isn't single loaded, there's la fayette behind those houses, they just excluded them on the pic since it wasn't their property.
Perspective
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Toured the models today. Loved the flooring in Plan 1. Does anyone think this is Provenza Norwich?
http://www.provenzafloors.com/Hardwood.aspx?id=1262&gallery=true&collection=Heirloom
These large homes will be on sub-4K sq ft lots. The back courtyards are an accurate representation of your "yard." Feels like a 10' setback. The models even have a ~12' blockwall making it feel even more claustrophobic/enclosed.
http://www.provenzafloors.com/Hardwood.aspx?id=1262&gallery=true&collection=Heirloom
These large homes will be on sub-4K sq ft lots. The back courtyards are an accurate representation of your "yard." Feels like a 10' setback. The models even have a ~12' blockwall making it feel even more claustrophobic/enclosed.
Perspective
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aquabliss said:Here's a pic of the Plan 3 great room... nearly perfect layout IMO.
I wasn't a fan of the Plan 3 floorplan. I like open floorplans, but it was hard to tell where the kitchen ended and the great room began - kinda felt like a massive kitchen with a sitting area.
Perspective
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Plans 1 and 2 have kitchen/dining areas bigger than the living areas. That's weird. Is this a trend? Sort of reminds me how master bath sizes have begun to rival the square footage in the master bedroom. Weird.
Perspective
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AW said:
Irvine Pacific hit the right balance for us at Strada. The kitchens aren't too big, relative to the great room, and the master baths aren't too big, relative to the master bedrooms. They're "million dollar plus" homes at Strada too, so I think you have to upgrade all of the finishes to compensate for the smaller kitchens and master baths.
Nothing at Palo Alto made me think, "Damn, I wish I hadn't just made a $30K deposit at Strada."
Perspective
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AW said:
The IUSD schools at Strada were? We'll be in IUSD. The sales person told me they have ~60 lots and will likely have 120+ soon at Stonegate.
The tiny lots would be a dealbreaker for us at Palo Alto. Your kitchen shouldn't be bigger than your living room, nor bigger than your backyard.
Wether tusd or iusd, the proximity would bother us...
Need to have orchard hill (tusd) as k-8 and northwood as high school (iusd), would be ideal
Single loaded tracts wouldn't be so bad but didn't see any for Palo Alto maybe until a super late phase, and most will be by that gigantor wall.
La fayette had some but waiting list is long, and those are most likely spoken for.
Interesting to see some of the built homes next to la fayette sales office and see the wall higher than the house
Need to have orchard hill (tusd) as k-8 and northwood as high school (iusd), would be ideal
Single loaded tracts wouldn't be so bad but didn't see any for Palo Alto maybe until a super late phase, and most will be by that gigantor wall.
La fayette had some but waiting list is long, and those are most likely spoken for.
Interesting to see some of the built homes next to la fayette sales office and see the wall higher than the house
