Orchard Hills - Strada by Irvine Pacific

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Yeah but Capella, you're in Tustin Unified, yards are about the same size and you're paying at least $150,000 more in base price for a home that is about 300 square feet bigger. I would say Strada is the much better buy.  ;)
 
Builder should apply variance to skip that number (114) when they apply the construction permit. 

Builder got variance for 3 ft wide side yard and partial 5 ft setback at the back yard, they could certainly get a variance to skip a street number.

 
Irvine Fanatic said:
Goriot said:
Perspective said:
bones said:
So are strada plan 3s now similarly priced to the comparable Capella plan? What was the spread for phase 1?

I think the spread between a Strada Plan 3 (~2,700 sq ft) and a Capella Plan 1 (~2,900 sq ft) is still nearly $200K. Isn't the base price of a Capella Plan 1 nearly $1.4M?
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/114-Long-Fence-92602/home/87555355

That house includes full upgraded options (flooring, cabinets, counter tops, + view lot premium/no house back). You can also further negotiate on that listed price. 
Base price for Capella is low $1.3 which is close to Phase 1 so it's getting close to Strada plan 3.

Isn't that Capella sqft close to ~3,100 sqft while the Strada Plan 3 (with conservatory) ~2,800 sqft? Thats about a 300 sqft difference and at $1.4M (fully upgraded) vs. $1.25M or $1.35 (fully upgrade) seems like a pretty good deal. That would mean a $50K difference for 300 sqft more, view and no one behind....hmmm, interesting  ???

So buyers are either balking at the small yard or TUSD or the house number or a combo of everything and rather spend their $1.3m at strada for a 3x and save the $50k.
 
lnc said:
Builder should apply variance to skip that number (114) when they apply the construction permit. 

Builder got variance for 3 ft wide side yard and partial 5 ft setback at the back yard, they could certainly get a variance to skip a street number.

Nah, don't placate superstitious folk. Don't skip 114, 13, 666, or any other number crazy people think means something other than a number identification.
 
Perspective said:
lnc said:
Builder should apply variance to skip that number (114) when they apply the construction permit. 

Builder got variance for 3 ft wide side yard and partial 5 ft setback at the back yard, they could certainly get a variance to skip a street number.

Nah, don't placate superstitious folk. Don't skip 114, 13, 666, or any other number crazy people think means something other than a number identification.

114 isn't that bad is it?

And I may be totally off here but from my observations of TayMo, the timing between when lots are released and options get picked seem to be pretty tight. This was the case at quinterra and Las colinas. I know it's a first world problem but if I'm paying $1.4m for a house, I don't want those cabinets at the longfence house.  Other builders seem to have more time between release dates and cut off dates.
 
bones said:
Irvine Fanatic said:
Goriot said:
Perspective said:
bones said:
So are strada plan 3s now similarly priced to the comparable Capella plan? What was the spread for phase 1?

I think the spread between a Strada Plan 3 (~2,700 sq ft) and a Capella Plan 1 (~2,900 sq ft) is still nearly $200K. Isn't the base price of a Capella Plan 1 nearly $1.4M?
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/114-Long-Fence-92602/home/87555355

That house includes full upgraded options (flooring, cabinets, counter tops, + view lot premium/no house back). You can also further negotiate on that listed price. 
Base price for Capella is low $1.3 which is close to Phase 1 so it's getting close to Strada plan 3.

Isn't that Capella sqft close to ~3,100 sqft while the Strada Plan 3 (with conservatory) ~2,800 sqft? Thats about a 300 sqft difference and at $1.4M (fully upgraded) vs. $1.25M or $1.35 (fully upgrade) seems like a pretty good deal. That would mean a $50K difference for 300 sqft more, view and no one behind....hmmm, interesting  ???

So buyers are either balking at the small yard or TUSD or the house number or a combo of everything and rather spend their $1.3m at strada for a 3x and save the $50k.

I purchased a plan 1 - 3233sqft (with the sitting/conservatory option) orchard hills view lot with no neighbors behind for $1.29mil. TUSD, gated - for us we're happy with our purchase. I'm sure many will argue how a 2700sqft 3X Strada is so much better at $1.25mil but to each their own.  For just $400k more I'd rather take the 500sqft more of living space and no homes behind my house with a serene orchard view any day.
IMHO I can care less what the market is doing now. It will only matter to me the day I sell this home which will not be anytime soon. In the long run I would always much rather be the cheapest home in the neighborhood.
 
Btw...Strada 3x with the conservatory is around 2860 square feet....not much smaller than the smallest Capella plan that is going for about 150k-175k more right now. I really disliked Capellas tightly packed streets and irregular front yard landscaping and of course the school district. The interiors though were nice I must admit.
 
OHills said:
Capella=Tustin Unified. Nuff said

actually, what I meant to say is that I was actively looking for a house on the TUSD side, and was trying to avoid IUSD.  I know multiple families who are moving out of Irvine to avoid the schools, or are choosing to send their kids to private schools.  Perhaps I am in the minority here, but just wanted to pipe up that IUSD is not the Holy Grail to everyone, not even on talk Irvine. We briefly considered Strada, but all the TUSD houses were sold already.

 
Paris said:
IMHO I can care less what the market is doing now. It will only matter to me the day I sell this home which will not be anytime soon. In the long run I would always much rather be the cheapest home in the neighborhood.

Will this be true in the long run?  Aren't they building Mulberry clones behind the gates?  Also, while Strada is the most expensive home on the non-gated side currently, theres also hundreds of them.  It's not like the neighborhood is being bogged down by some stigma that it's cheap or value oriented or all condos.  The "most expensive home in the neighborhood" saying works better when you're talking about paying $2M for a SINGLE model home when the next highest thing in the neighborhood closed at a few hundred thousand dollars less.
 
Agreed re. TUSD.  I'm a long-time resident in the area.  There are many reasons why I prefer TUSD over IUSD - but the one of the main drivers is that TUSD offers more diversity.  My friend's kid was the only non-Asian in his IUSD class last year, and this year he's 1 of 3.  My kid's in middle school now where the net is wider, but there was a good diversity in his elementary classes. 

I liked the Capella floor plans 1 and 2, but the street plan was very poor in my opinion.  (I hope the slow sales mean TM rethinks their planning for future developments).  The backyards at Capella were too small for me to seriously consider.  Overall a decent sized backyard and those wide open cul-de-sacs at Strada (some which have grass areas at the end and all with views) won me over. 
 
What's wrong with asian kids in school? They are people too.

This is amazing... I never would have thought someone would say I want to live in Irvine but only if my kid can doesn't have to go to an IUSD school.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
What's wrong with asian kids in school? They are people too.

This is amazing... I never would have thought someone would say I want to live in Irvine but only if my kid can doesn't have to go to an IUSD school.

There's nothing wrong with asian kids. I just wouldn't want my kids to go to any school that is so unbalanced toward one demographic group, doesn't matter which group that is. I'm asian myself. I don't want my kids to grow up in a homogeneous bubble where everyone looks like them. The rest of the US is not like that. They need to be comfortable dealing with people of all backgrounds.

 
nyc to oc said:
I don't want my kids to grow up in a homogeneous bubble where everyone looks like them.

Hmmm...  I wonder if parents in China feel that same way.  India?  Uganda?  And pity those poor kids in Norway...
 
Exactly what NYC says, and I often hear Asian friends express the same sentiments. I come from a cross-cultural background and a homogenous bubble is not what I want for my kid.  I'd feel exactly the same if the school was predominantly Caucasian. 
 
Jonah said:
Exactly what NYC says, and I often hear Asian friends express the same sentiments. I come from a cross-cultural background and a homogenous bubble is not what I want for my kid.  I'd feel exactly the same if the school was predominantly Caucasian. 

There's also the exact opposite. I know plenty of Asians in irvine who want only Asian friends and their kids to have only Asian friends. Been to enough Asian-only birthday parties to last me a lifetime. What I don't get is: why no qwertys allowed?! 
 
"Diversity" is typically code for "less white folk." In that sense, IUSD schools are very diverse. The stats also prove IUSD schools are objectively diverse:
https://www.iusd.org/district_news_information/AboutTheIUSD.html

I want my kids to attend schools where the vast majority of kids' parents have high expectations for education performance and prestigious college acceptance - the opposite of my life in south LAUSD schools. I don't care what concentration of racial groupings creates this environment.
 
bones said:
Jonah said:
Exactly what NYC says, and I often hear Asian friends express the same sentiments. I come from a cross-cultural background and a homogenous bubble is not what I want for my kid.  I'd feel exactly the same if the school was predominantly Caucasian. 

There's also the exact opposite. I know plenty of Asians in irvine who want only Asian friends and their kids to have only Asian friends. Been to enough Asian-only birthday parties to last me a lifetime. What I don't get is: why no qwertys allowed?!

Are the parents immigrants or second generations?

I can kind of understand how recent immigrant parents might have that mindset, because of language barriers and wanting to feel connected to their homeland's culture--its just easier to be friends with someone who you can actually converse well with, but I don't know any second generation AA parents that feel this way. Just goes to show you, assimilation works. For all those immigrant/FOB parents who may do their best to keep their kids in a bubble, I bet for the most part, their kids growing up here will end up more integrated into US society--and that's a good thing, in my mind.

 
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