McCain admits defeat, picks somebody REALLY not qualified to be president

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[quote author="irvine123" date=1220139954]one can spin anything they want based their needs...



If Obama is that smart, i would love to hear the details behind his tax cut for 95% of americans and have a gov sponsored national health care system. If he can prove to me his plan will actually work without dipping to many of us pocket and prove to us that his national healthcare system will actually work, and provide the quality care even though Canada, English are moving towards private care, then i might vote for him even though I am a Republican. WHY I know canada, England are moving towards private care? Because I have some involvement on those projects. After private operators take over, the hospitals just became much for efficient.</blockquote>


I don't suppose you tried the <a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/">website</a> to learn the details?
 
[quote author="irvine123" date=1220073953]Here is my question, forget about VPs for now.



WHY Obama is not 15 to 20 points ahead???</blockquote>


As of something I just heard. Not sure which poll. Obama up by 8 Points
 
Anyone know what Sarah Palin's net worth is? I saw a reference to 5 million dollars from some poster, but cannot find anything from any other verifiable source.



Any ideas/links?
 
[quote author="WINEX" date=1220137992]NoWowway, your "forgot" to mention that Biden finished 76th in a class of 85 at Syracuse.</blockquote>


Thats whole lot better on the curve than 894 of 899. And your Dad is an Admiral, So is your Grand dad. And its the US Navel Academy not Syracuse. I doubt McCain could litigate.

He has not the temperment for it. Too emotional. We dont need a President with a sour temper. His only real claim on his resume is his time in the Hanoi Hilton. Without that and his wifes money he would be NOBODY whatsoever. Oh he is good at crashing US Aircraft too.
 
Am I the only one who is just floored at how starry eyed so many people are with Obama? I read the comments here, and watch the talking heads on cable news am left just dumbfounded. The attacks on Sarah Palin I see on this board and even in so called "news" organizations are absolutely deplorable. You can disagree with her, but she deserves better than this belittling. The fact that the Obama people can not lay her resume next to his and see that she is no less qualified than Obama speaks volumes to the level of Obama kool-aid out there. The irrational exuberance of the housing market is gone, but has been replaced by irrational exuberance for this guy.



I'm a registered Democrat who has never voted for anything but the Dems since I was eligible to vote in 1990. But I have to tell you, this worship of Obama coupled with the fact that he would have control of the House and Senate worries me. We saw what happens when one party has too much power during 2000-06. Power corrupts --- and when I couple this with Obama's supreme confidence in himself, it is scary. The fact that he had the gall to model his stage for the acceptance speech after the Lincoln Memorial on the 45th anniversary of the "I have a dream" speech tells you all you need to know about where he views himself in the pecking order of historical figures.



Am I the only left center Democrat who is turned off and concerned with all this hero worship? I don't want to be driven off a cliff just like the last 8 years, with the only difference being which cliff we will be driven off.
 
CK,



I am a life long republican who stopped voting that way after GWB got into office. Obama has quite a bit going for him. Don't know if you've actually watched a whole speech by him, but he really delivers the goods.



Did you happen to see Pat Buchanan's comments about the acceptance speech? PAT was absolutely gushing. He said that Obama's speech was the best he's ever heard - including those speeches of Kennedy, MacArthur, King, etc.....



Here, see it yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiMmNZJkEm0
 
I don't think he's a hero. I'm a Dem and wanted Hillary Clinton to be President. But I'll still vote for him b/c to me, it's the lesser of two evils.



Damn, and if Pat Buchanan is conceding anything to a Dem.....hell has just frozen over.
 
Trooper,



I loved Olbermann's comments at the end.... saying that they had to interrupt Buchanan's gushing over Obama.... and that in itself, spoke volumes about the event.



I have been consistently voting for democrats for the last 7+years. I would have voted for Clinton and I am looking forward to voting for Obama. I am still not sure why they are not both on the ticket, but I would expect that Clinton/s will gain much if the Democrats can get the presidential spot.



I prefer a balance of power with Dems/Republicans sharing the house/senate and states. However, I view the current batch of gop'ers to be the worst bunch of criminals and clowns possible. Reagan would be ashamed of these snakes. I think that the gop should be punished until they change direction from their neoconservative ways.
 
[quote author="NoWowway" date=1220159237]CK,



I am a life long republican who stopped voting that way after GWB got into office. Obama has quite a bit going for him. Don't know if you've actually watched a whole speech by him, but he really delivers the goods.



Did you happen to see Pat Buchanan's comments about the acceptance speech? PAT was absolutely gushing. He said that Obama's speech was the best he's ever heard - including those speeches of Kennedy, MacArthur, King, etc.....



Here, see it yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiMmNZJkEm0</blockquote>


I saw the speech. As a matter of fact I saw just about every speech of that convention. Obama can give a mean speech, no doubt. But he stumbled and bumbled in the debates with Hillary, and in the Saddleback thing. I've yet to be really impressed with anything on his resume or in his background, other than his skills around a big crowd and teleprompter. Everyone was so touched by his introductory video, I was sitting there going "what has this guy accomplished"? I guess there must be something glorious about him I am missing.



Although I disagree with him on many things, Pat Buchanan is one of my favorite political commentators. He knows what he is talking about, and calls it like he sees it --- regardless of if it is his candidate or not.
 
I am a lifelong Republican disgusted by the Bush administration. Not a huge fan of McCain's either. Facts about political candidates are opinions - we don't KNOW anything concrete about how Obama would do as president. Obama is an idea whose time has not yet come. He doesn't have REAL answers, and his "tax the rich" economic policy will fail miserably. It is time for SPECIFICS, not hopes.
 
Seperated at birth?



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From email:





So for those who might be interested, here's the inside on how McCain chose Palin over Romney, Guiliani, Huckabee, Condi, Lieberman and the others on "the short list."



For weeks, advisers close to the campaign said, Mr. McCain had wanted to name as his running mate his good friend Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, the Democrat turned independent. But by the end of last weekend, the outrage from Christian conservatives over the possibility that Mr. McCain would fill out the Republican ticket with Mr. Lieberman, a supporter of abortion rights, had become too intense to be ignored.

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At 11 a.m. on Thursday, at the McCain vacation compound near Sedona, Ariz., Mr. McCain invited Ms. Palin to join him on the ticket. He hardly knew her, and she had virtually no foreign policy experience, but Ms. Palin was a ?kindred spirit,? a McCain adviser said.

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Last Sunday, ... Mr. McCain met with his senior campaign team at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Phoenix. By then, campaign advisers said, the group had long decided that Mr. McCain?s ?experience versus change? argument against Mr. Obama had run its course, to the extent that it had worked at all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/us/politics/31reconstruct....



Great inside reporting on the decision process.
 
[quote author="WINEX" date=1220046524]The Democrats picked someone REALLY not qualified to be president too!</blockquote>


-the voters/ via primary and electoral colleges picked Obama.



-Mccain picked Palin.



they don't have a primary for VP. Did you flunk the history exam in Jr. College?



Who will be Mc Cain's secreteary of defence? Hulk Hogan?
 
[quote author="Trooper" date=1220073081]...She has to have some legit substance to receive this nod....time will tell.</blockquote>
Is it that time yet?
 
[quote author="ventouxbob" date=1222434866][quote author="WINEX" date=1220046524]The Democrats picked someone REALLY not qualified to be president too!</blockquote>


-the voters/ via primary and electoral colleges picked Obama.



-Mccain picked Palin.



they don't have a primary for VP. Did you flunk the history exam in Jr. College?



Who will be Mc Cain's secreteary of defence? Hulk Hogan?</blockquote>


It's better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubts.



What party affiliation do you think the voters in the primaries who picked Obama were? And what does the mechanics of our method of nominating public officials have to do with Jr. College history classes? (Here's a clue for you since you seem to be missing one, it's really more a topic for a high school US Government class, or something to do with Civics than it is a topic of history)
 
[quote author="WINEX" date=1222468111]

It's better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubts.

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Too late for that. <a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=">This conservative happens to agree.</a>
 
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