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I wouldn't want my son to have a svelte figure type :)) aren't male ballet dancers selected based on that?

oh, and most parents think their kids attend only innocent events... I remember myself going to places you don't speak about with a special type of people (that can be loosely described as "parents' walking talking nightmare"), all of that done while my mom thought I was "studying in the library" all afternoon and night :) what are you going to do when your kid is in college? (really, I do need advice on that)
 
<p>Several comments for this completely hijacked thread:</p>

<p>One of my degrees is in Drama from UCI. I went to school with quite a few OCHSA graduates. Whether the arts students partied or not depended on their major. Drama students....OMG....if they weren't rehearsing for a show (or had another "real job" major like me ) they, for the most part, partied. Dancers...it depended on how seriously they took their craft as drinking would affect their health/weight/body, yet since they have been doing their homework since they were 3 many of them had the time to party if they weren't rehearsing for a performance. Music majors...if it was vocal music they might as well be Drama majors, but if they played an instrument it was a toss-up. Many of them had also been doing their homework since they were a child so once they got to college they either continued to focus on their craft or they completely rebelled. Sorry graph, but I didn't have a whole lot of interaction with the studio art majors so I can't really tell you how much they partied. </p>

<p>It is not entirely politically incorrect to say that dancers are selected because they are thin. Dancers are thin because a) they exercise all freakin' day long, b) they not only have to occasionally be lifted off the ground by someone else, but they also have to propel their own person through the air on a regular basis, so it is advantageous to have a good muscle to fat ratio, yet also c) a long, lean figure is more visually pleasing to the majority of audiences (especially of classical ballet). Maybe it's my performing art training (brainwashing?) talking here, but a serious performer understands and accepts that his/her body is his/her instrument and looking the part as well as physically being able to do the part, whatever that may be, is how you get the job. Incorrect? Maybe. Will it change in today's performers' lifetimes? Unlikely.</p>

<p>Yes, male dancers are selected because they are not only "svelte" but also strong enough to lift the girls. Also, IMHO a straight, male dancer could have all the female tail he wanted because of not only his body fat to muscle ratio but also because he would be a rarity. There aren't that many male dancers (outside of hip-hop) to begin with, and a significant percentage of them are gay. HOWEVER, male dancers may be required to touch/grab the females more often than in other professions, but they must also learn to get over it quickly because getting...ahem...excited in front of an audience is highly inconvenient. </p>
 
I wasn't writing about how the boy was selected. If a boy says he want to dance ballet at OCHSA, he is in no matter what he looks like or how he may dance. And his grades may go lacking in a manner that no female ballerina will be allowed. And I was just trying to say somewhat delicately, what cayci did in a much more direct manner. If you are a straight male ballet dancer ... and many of us would have been much more likely to dance ballet if we had any clue. And most of the ballerinas are very attractive. They are partially chosen for that reason. The not so thin girls are less likely to get through most auditions and only the thin girls get hired by companies. If they aren't thin from the constant exercise, they just don't get through the auditions. Even for a high school audition, there were over two hundred girls auditioning and six were chosen for the program. At least twenty of them danced well enough.
 
wait, if a fat boy comes and says he wants to dance ballet there, he gets in? no way! how is he going to jump around the stage with all that extra weight?

I do see you point, but why ballet? There are so many majors where girls are predominant (hmm. child development first thing that comes to mind), so why select ballet? i think there is some sort of stigma attached to male ballet dancers, there is smth inherently wrong with this...
 
bs - Yes, if an overweight boy wants to dance ballet at OCHSA, he will probably get in.<p>


Why ballet? How many other high school activities require a boy to touch, grab, lift, and spend inordinate amounts of time in close proximity to attractive girls? Maybe cheerleading, but that is about it.
 
Sarge - When I was in high school, I liked high school girls. Why is that creepy? Was it creepy when cayci said it? Did I say something wrong?
 
<p>My best friend's son was the only boy ballet dancer. He was straight. . . but got into drugs and stuff, so they have more or less disowned him. Don't think it's because of the ballet. He was lean, but not nearly as good a dancer as any of the girls.</p>

<p>But he got to be in all the shows, because it was him or nobody.</p>
 
if we're talking about politically incorrect ways of getting your child into the best situation possible, i would marry a native american. my half native american boy would do ballet, pitch left-handed, and study to be a bmw mechanic (do you know what they charge per hour?!) i would arrange my boy to get married to a disabled veteran.
 
<p>This is a joke, right? 52% loss if it sells (yeah, right).</p>

<p>540 South Lexington PL


Anaheim, CA 92805 </p>

<p><strong>Price: $280,000</strong></p>

<p>Price Reduced: 12/28/07 -- $590,000 to $280,000 </p>

<p>$/Sq. Ft.: $211</p>

<p>Beds: 4


Baths: 2


Sq. Ft.: 1,325


Lot Size: 6,100 sq. ft. </p>

<p>Sale History:</p>

<strong>06/01/2006 $589,000 </strong>


04/06/2005 $549,000


08/06/2004 $445,000


<strong>11/27/2002 $260,000 </strong>


<p><img alt="" src="http://i-0.rfimg.us/photo/46/bigphoto/336/P608336_0.jpg" /> </p>

<p><a href="http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1266319">http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1266319</a></p>
 
Not listed even as preforeclosure on foreclosureradar. Very strange, unless they're trying to set off a bidding war to make a short sale offer to the bank.
 
<p>CF, it's not that far out of line on a $/sf basis in that area. It's basically on the bottom end of the $/sf spread, but has company. </p>

<p>Nano, what's really sad, that is a typical 'home' in Orange County. No crack involved, just a median home, in a median non-Irvine hood.</p>
 
<p>I kyped this from Piggington, somebody here already posted it, whoever it was TY.</p>

<p><a href="http://piggington.com/repo_pricing_banks_going_for_the_throat">http://piggington.com/repo_pricing_banks_going_for_the_throat</a></p>

<p>I have been saying my gut told me the REO pricing war (first bank to blink once they figured out they had REO's stacked to the celing and anther six truckloads in route) would start sometime near the first quarter. I may have been three months late.</p>
 
NSR, the price might be reasonable but I just don't understand how it can be for sale at that price without being foreclosed. Unless the last purchaser put 50% down (ha, ha) they're giving up the bank's money. I'm thinking "cui bono" and coming up blank. If this *is* a REO, no_vaseline is on the money but if so it's being hidden - not in the listing and not on foreclosureradar. Could REO status be getting hidden to improve the price?
 
<p>Here's a quarter million dollar loss (25%) from a 2004 purchase in Coto da Caza.</p>



Price: $825,000

8 Jackson CT

Coto De Caza, CA 92679

http://redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1319111



<p>







Beds:

4





Baths:

3





Sq. Ft.:

2,900





$/Sq. Ft.:

$284





Lot Size:

-







</p>

<p>Sales History</p>







<strong>Date</strong>

<strong>Price</strong>

<strong>Appreciation</strong>





07/12/2004

$1,075,000



29.7%/yr







06/20/2002

$629,000



15.5%/yr







05/29/1997

$303,500



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<p> </p>

<p>Or the one I posted on the blog entry today; a half million dollar reduction (and loss) on a $1.625M purchase, now listed for $1.075M that's 34%. 6 Water Lily Way, Coto De Caza <a href="http://redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1266361">http://redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1266361</a></p>

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<p>'Waaaaay outside of Irvine. I was talking to my developer buddy, who persists in thinking he should continue to develop. He was talking to his broker about more incentives to sell 2 very well built houses in South Miami, and what incentives he could offer.</p>

<p>The looked at the local MLS. Seems that the MLS has created systems that won't let you take a listing off and then relist it as if it were new, which he wanted to do. don't understand how the local MLS got so honest. Anyway, they looked at other listings in the community. The house accross the street had had the price reduced 15 times starting in the 800s and going down to the 600s. Another had been reduced 11 or more times.</p>

<p>I said, gee, if those people had done those reductions all at once the house would have sold, hoping he would get the point that this would apply to him. Naaah.</p>

<p>The agent, that he likes a lot and feels is very industrious, hasn't sold a house since last March. She does manage the office for a salary so is not actually unemployed, but there is surely a lot of unreported unemployment out there.</p>

<p>My mtg broker/real estate buddies are now selling cruises, and report that there were a number of real estate and mtg types in the cruise selling classes. They don't seem to think that people will stop buying cruises in the coming melt down. For their sakes, I hope they are right.</p>
 
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