Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
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Go do a search and look at $/sqft. I am not here to analyze the trends over and over again. It was posted on my prior posts, the performance of all villages on SALES in the last 6 months. You can do your own search. But comparing two singular sales against each other absolutely means nothing. Lazy analysis is worse than no analysis. And then you have the qualitative factors that USCTrojanCPA pointed out, that will not be present on any sales data. Proximity to a shopping center walking distance is one that my in-laws will not live without. Community make-up, parks, hill vs no hill, lot views, all of that makes or breaks it for each buyer.
I got the first person to ignore me on TI. >
I'm still sticking by the fact that the Toll Road is probably the worse environmental concern that I know of.
And I never disagreed with this guy/girl that living near the 5 or 405 was better, where did I say that. In fact I think it's way worse and would never choose to live close to either.
great, got it! thanks for your clarifications.
Yeah, again a bunch of children in these forums. Type away. That's the way this country is being run actually. Reactions. Great stuff!
Every village has it's flaw. I don't believe PS has any any legit health hazards, however it is probably considered a higher fire danger area. The heath hazard topic lies squarely with the GP neighborhoods due to being on a superfund site. Being next to the 241, or any freeway for that matter, can't be THAT bad. Half of LA is next to at least one freeway or another.
I'd also like to remind everyone that PS has some great value for those that really want their kids in Portola HS. That shouldn't be understated.
I've said this before, but "my thoughts" are I think CV homes closer to Trabuco where the freeway noise is not heard are OK. I've done a test actually to see how far I had to be from the I-5 to be able to have minimal noise in "my ears" (very subjective, right?). I started to hear less from around the elementary school.
Now, I haven't done an accurate test with a machine like this to see the air quality.
https://www.grainger.com/product/20Z194?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5_bXnduh5gIVrx6tBh2A2QluEAQYAiABEgIpXvD_BwE&cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMI5_bXnduh5gIVrx6tBh2A2QluEAQYAiABEgIpXvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!50916686277!!!g!82166347917!
But I have run withhttps://breezometer.com/.And the air quality from CV is just as fine as other Irvine areas. Yes, living near 241 is just fine according this air quality detector. What I have found though was that overall Irvine air was not as good as I thought.
For me though, I once lived where kids were racing from 12am-4am (yes, DJ) so I'm done with living near the busy road. It's not for the air quality I'm choosing not to buy near the busy road but to be able to sleep without hearing car exhausts you never thought existed.
Well, I'm not an expert on air quality. Maybe PM Yelly?
I've seen some other videos too that near the freeway actually doesn't have as much pollution as people think. I think the particles and smog kind of dissipate quick and don't really come in contact with people or homes with closed windows. Of course if you stand on the middle of the freeway 24/7, that's a different story. I also saw some tests showing the exposure of smoking or second hand smoking is a lot worse than being next to freeways. But again, I'm not the expert on this.
B/c that research his easier to do and easier to draw conclusions from.
Just like it's easy to draw a conclusion that overweight people who live next to a McDonald's got fat by eating at that McDonald's. But those overweight people might have eaten poorly even if that McD's was there.
This is one research on US. It's a government website (not sure if you'll feel more reliable or not). https://www.epa.gov/transportation-...ents-and-success-air-pollution-transportation
I think the vehicle emission/pollution got a lot better over the last 40 years.
Trash gravy??
https://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,15011.msg301699.html#msg301699
There?s too much to talk about and discuss regarding air pollution. Ths is more of a PS thread. I will start a new thread when I have time prob later today.
mountaineer
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zubs said:
Go do a search and look at $/sqft. I am not here to analyze the trends over and over again. It was posted on my prior posts, the performance of all villages on SALES in the last 6 months. You can do your own search. But comparing two singular sales against each other absolutely means nothing. Lazy analysis is worse than no analysis. And then you have the qualitative factors that USCTrojanCPA pointed out, that will not be present on any sales data. Proximity to a shopping center walking distance is one that my in-laws will not live without. Community make-up, parks, hill vs no hill, lot views, all of that makes or breaks it for each buyer.
mountaineer said:
I got the first person to ignore me on TI. >
I'm still sticking by the fact that the Toll Road is probably the worse environmental concern that I know of.
And I never disagreed with this guy/girl that living near the 5 or 405 was better, where did I say that. In fact I think it's way worse and would never choose to live close to either.
akkord said:
akkord said:
akkord said:
mountaineer
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akkord said:mountaineer said:
I got the first person to ignore me on TI. >
I'm still sticking by the fact that the Toll Road is probably the worse environmental concern that I know of.
And I never disagreed with this guy/girl that living near the 5 or 405 was better, where did I say that. In fact I think it's way worse and would never choose to live close to either.
akkord said:
akkord said:
akkord said:
great, got it! thanks for your clarifications.
mountaineer
New member
zubs said:
Yeah, again a bunch of children in these forums. Type away. That's the way this country is being run actually. Reactions. Great stuff!
paydawg
Active member
mountaineer said:
Every village has it's flaw. I don't believe PS has any any legit health hazards, however it is probably considered a higher fire danger area. The heath hazard topic lies squarely with the GP neighborhoods due to being on a superfund site. Being next to the 241, or any freeway for that matter, can't be THAT bad. Half of LA is next to at least one freeway or another.
I'd also like to remind everyone that PS has some great value for those that really want their kids in Portola HS. That shouldn't be understated.
How are the new ones at PS doing (Hillside, Bluffs, and Highlands)?
Here is the quote I got from villagesofirvine.com
"VILLAGE OF THE YEAR
Portola Springs, the best kept secret in Irvine, is now the Village of the Year according to the Irvine Standard. Living here will connect you with everything you need and love, including:
-New Loma Ridge Elementary, a state-of-the-art facility, emphasizing in the latest and greatest technology
-New Portola Springs Community Park, a public 32-acre hilltop park with sports courts, playgrounds and community center
-Connected to nature with spectacular views of Loma Ridge and access to miles of trails
-Nearby shopping, dining and entertainment at Irvine Spectrum Center and more just minutes from home"
Hey, mountaineer, did you write this?
Here is the quote I got from villagesofirvine.com
"VILLAGE OF THE YEAR
Portola Springs, the best kept secret in Irvine, is now the Village of the Year according to the Irvine Standard. Living here will connect you with everything you need and love, including:
-New Loma Ridge Elementary, a state-of-the-art facility, emphasizing in the latest and greatest technology
-New Portola Springs Community Park, a public 32-acre hilltop park with sports courts, playgrounds and community center
-Connected to nature with spectacular views of Loma Ridge and access to miles of trails
-Nearby shopping, dining and entertainment at Irvine Spectrum Center and more just minutes from home"
Hey, mountaineer, did you write this?
eyephone said:
I've said this before, but "my thoughts" are I think CV homes closer to Trabuco where the freeway noise is not heard are OK. I've done a test actually to see how far I had to be from the I-5 to be able to have minimal noise in "my ears" (very subjective, right?). I started to hear less from around the elementary school.
Now, I haven't done an accurate test with a machine like this to see the air quality.
https://www.grainger.com/product/20Z194?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5_bXnduh5gIVrx6tBh2A2QluEAQYAiABEgIpXvD_BwE&cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMI5_bXnduh5gIVrx6tBh2A2QluEAQYAiABEgIpXvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!50916686277!!!g!82166347917!
But I have run withhttps://breezometer.com/.And the air quality from CV is just as fine as other Irvine areas. Yes, living near 241 is just fine according this air quality detector. What I have found though was that overall Irvine air was not as good as I thought.
For me though, I once lived where kids were racing from 12am-4am (yes, DJ) so I'm done with living near the busy road. It's not for the air quality I'm choosing not to buy near the busy road but to be able to sleep without hearing car exhausts you never thought existed.
eyephone said:
Well, I'm not an expert on air quality. Maybe PM Yelly?
I've seen some other videos too that near the freeway actually doesn't have as much pollution as people think. I think the particles and smog kind of dissipate quick and don't really come in contact with people or homes with closed windows. Of course if you stand on the middle of the freeway 24/7, that's a different story. I also saw some tests showing the exposure of smoking or second hand smoking is a lot worse than being next to freeways. But again, I'm not the expert on this.
paydawg
Active member
eyephone said:
B/c that research his easier to do and easier to draw conclusions from.
Just like it's easy to draw a conclusion that overweight people who live next to a McDonald's got fat by eating at that McDonald's. But those overweight people might have eaten poorly even if that McD's was there.
eyephone said:I can share the independent research again if you would like.
It?s almost common sense.
This is one research on US. It's a government website (not sure if you'll feel more reliable or not). https://www.epa.gov/transportation-...ents-and-success-air-pollution-transportation
I think the vehicle emission/pollution got a lot better over the last 40 years.
paydawg said:
Trash gravy??
https://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,15011.msg301699.html#msg301699
Mety said:eyephone said:I can share the independent research again if you would like.
It?s almost common sense.
This is one research on US. It's a government website (not sure if you'll feel more reliable or not). https://www.epa.gov/transportation-...ents-and-success-air-pollution-transportation
I think the vehicle emission/pollution got a lot better over the last 40 years.
There?s too much to talk about and discuss regarding air pollution. Ths is more of a PS thread. I will start a new thread when I have time prob later today.