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SoclosetoIrvine said:
Hypothetical, would you guys do this trade?

Luol Deng
Lou Williams
Randle

for

Carmelo?

We get to drop Deng's contract, get a legit 4 in Carmelo.  Knicks do it for some instant scoring with Lou and a young piece in Randle

NOOOOO! Never trade decent assets for a 32 year old scorer/ball stop, unless of course you're one piece away from championship contention.
 
I am anti-Melo for many reasons but I don't think he can hurt the Lakers any more... or actually... if he can, that's a plus to protect the Top 3 pick this year.

And at least the Lakers have one star for the next however many years Melo's contract is for.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
I am anti-Melo for many reasons but I don't think he can hurt the Lakers any more... or actually... if he can, that's a plus to protect the Top 3 pick this year.

And at least the Lakers have one star for the next however many years Melo's contract is for.

WOOO! Looks like I got 50/50 vote support for my trade

Yes...Carmelo won't hurt our top 3 pick this year for sure
Assuming we get Lonzo Ball

Ball
Russell
Ingram
Carmelo
Mozgov
Clarkson
Swaggy
Nance
Zubac

seems like a 7-8th seed, unless I'm missing something...
LA loves big names like Carmelo to get butts in the seats.  I think Luke's offense would do wonders for Carmelo.  Those cuts and mid range shots that Ingram/Randle/Nance gets of those picks, Carmelo would be getting those shots instead .... worth a shot!
 
Lonzo Ball is amazing, but man, I cannot get over that horrific form on his J. Not only is his shooting elbow flared outward (not pointed at the target), his release near his face (not above his head), but he also shoots this right-handed shot from the left side of his head. It is nasty. Effective, but nasty.
 
Perspective said:
Lonzo Ball is amazing, but man, I cannot get over that horrific form on his J. Not only is his shooting elbow flared outward (not pointed at the target), his release near his face (not above his head), but he also shoots this right-handed shot from the left side of his head. It is nasty. Effective, but nasty.

Agreed.  I'm surprised he went this far without anyone fixing it.  Assuming we get him, I'd hope Lakers write a big check to the top shooting coaches in the league.  I think the Spurs probably have the best ones (see Kawhi/Danny Green etc) or Julius Hodge/Dell Curry mold

I'm looking at our current lakers and I can't even tell who our shooting coach is... Luke? Madson? Metta?  None were great shooters....and they certainly haven't helped Ingram's shot at all.  I also want to see what a legit coach can do to Randle/Nance's shot...

I remember the days Ariza improved his shot tremendously...not sure who helped him...Kobe? Bring him back as a coach  ;D
 
So would you have traded Ingram and players for Cousins?

I think I might have made that deal.

Rumors of Jimmy Butler abound... that would be good too.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
So would you have traded Ingram and players for Cousins?

I think I might have made that deal.

Rumors of Jimmy Butler abound... that would be good too.

We gotta develop Ingram. The talent is there. Need meat and confidence.
 
Really?
He's going to lose out on more money if that's the case right?
He already lost out on sac, if he bolts, he'll lose out again since the team he's on would have the highest offer.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
So would you have traded Ingram and players for Cousins?

I think I might have made that deal.

Rumors of Jimmy Butler abound... that would be good too.

Hell F%^&ing no! I'll be nervous 'til this trade deadline ends. We should really only be shopping Lakers over 25. Stay in full Tank Mode. Let's get a top-3 pick in this generational draft.
 
Crazy. At least Magic is just the figurehead, hopefully, and they find a GM who understands advanced metrics (like the Dodgers did).
 
Perspective said:
Crazy. At least Magic is just the figurehead, hopefully, and they find a GM who understands advanced metrics (like the Dodgers did).

A rumor I've heard is bringing back Jerry West in an Advisor role with Jesse Buss and Ryan West (Jerry's son) taking the reigns of GM. Kobe would likely be involved somehow too.
 
best_potsticker_in_town said:
Perspective said:
Crazy. At least Magic is just the figurehead, hopefully, and they find a GM who understands advanced metrics (like the Dodgers did).

A rumor I've heard is bringing back Jerry West in an Advisor role with Jesse Buss and Ryan West (Jerry's son) taking the reigns of GM. Kobe would likely be involved somehow too.

That'll work. I'm on board with that.
 
Buss focused more on being a GM than an owner. Let Mitch do that... Just sell the lifestyle like your dad did.
 
Most recent update is they are going for kobe's agent rob pelinka as GM

Not sure if that would work, but recent success stories are bob myers from Warriors it seems.  I'm more aboard the ryan west promotion with a clause saying jerry west would come here as an advisor as well.

I probably wouldn't have done the ingram from Cousins trade as well without an extension, but I feel like we could've offered more than Pelicans.  We really dropped the ball on that one, though we don't know what we truly offered

Jordan Clarkson (I think has shown more than Buddy Hield thus far)
Lou will (if they wanted to win, or we can keep him)
If they really wanted a young piece, I would've added Zubac or Randle as well

Our lineup would've been

Russell
Ingram
Cousins
Nance

which is easily a playoff contender for sure
 
Perspective said:
Crazy. At least Magic is just the figurehead, hopefully, and they find a GM who understands advanced metrics (like the Dodgers did).

They need Magic or somebody because currently it's not working.
 
I'm not sold on why Mitch had to be let go.  He's been pretty decent in the draft and he has pulled off some pretty favorable trades.  His downfall might have been the inability to draw free agents to the premier franchise/location in the league. 

Jim Buss?  Good riddance....At least the franchise is true to their word on this. 
 
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