Laguna Altura Homebuying Seminar

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akim997 said:
I spoke to a certain "in house lender"...  yes they were aware of that (WF lender) and were hoping for some extension.  Once it didnt happen, it was like the Men In Black taser which erases your memory.  No mention of it...  just that "Jumbo rates are really cheap!!!"   

From a TIC perspective, I think they could care less.  They actually do not want to sell at market clearing price, which I kind of get.
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Of course they could care less, they think they are the market or even above it.  Sooner or later the market will teach them a lesson because no one is above the market not even the mighty TIC.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
This illustrates that since TIC is the owner, developer, and builder they have an advantage over builders... they can just have homes sitting without drastically reducing prices.

And while their home sales languish, they just keep on terra-forming land for their apartments... has anyone seen how much work they've done near Wild Rivers and over at Cypress Village?
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Rental demand has firmed up in Irvine and most parts of OC in the past 6-12 months so why not take advantage of the cheap labor and build more dense apartments.  I'd do the same exact thing.
 
USCTrojanCPA said:
Of course they could care less, they think they are the market or even above it.  Sooner or later the market will teach them a lesson because no one is above the market not even the mighty TIC.
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But as you said, with the rental market firming up, they may not have to learn that lesson. As I've said before, they make so much money in other things outside of home building... they can weather the dips longer than most.

I know someone doesn't agree with me, but TIC can just stop building homes (like at Orchard Hill) and still be okay. It seems they've already delayed their timeline to put SFRs in Cypress Village and are concentrating on the apartments and attached/detached denser homes.

Considering Portola Springs is moving homes so slowly... what will Lambert Ranch do differently to sell more homes... or Heritage Fields?
 
I'm lead to believe by my conservative friends that Obama will be ousted in 2012 and then sunshine and glory will fall on the nation healing the economy and housing will then skyrocket.  In that case, TIC only need wait a year before sales pick up.

irvinehomeowner said:
USCTrojanCPA said:
Of course they could care less, they think they are the market or even above it.  Sooner or later the market will teach them a lesson because no one is above the market not even the mighty TIC.
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But as you said, with the rental market firming up, they may not have to learn that lesson. As I've said before, they make so much money in other things outside of home building... they can weather the dips longer than most.

I know someone doesn't agree with me, but TIC can just stop building homes (like at Orchard Hill) and still be okay. It seems they've already delayed their timeline to put SFRs in Cypress Village and are concentrating on the apartments and attached/detached denser homes.

Considering Portola Springs is moving homes so slowly... what will Lambert Ranch do differently to sell more homes... or Heritage Fields?
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Laguna Altura at current pricing, can be saved if
1. the VISIT-USA act gets passed
2. RMB keeps appreciating against the US Dollar

TIC needs to ramp up their advertising to foreigners. They need bi-lingual staff (English, Cantonese, Korean,Mandarin...etc, certainly not in Spanish). 
 
The Motor Court Company said:
Laguna Altura at current pricing, can be saved if
1. the VISIT-USA act gets passed
2. RMB keeps appreciating against the US Dollar

TIC needs to ramp up their advertising to foreigners. They need bi-lingual staff (English, Cantonese, Korean,Mandarin...etc, certainly not in Spanish).
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That might work. Turning Irvine into Chinatown OC is not an angle I thought of seriously in any respect, but more and more, I think it could be a realistic way to boost sales and generate tax revenue.
 
Who will communicate to the landscape crew around the model complex?
The Motor Court Company said:
Laguna Altura at current pricing, can be saved if
1. the VISIT-USA act gets passed
2. RMB keeps appreciating against the US Dollar

TIC needs to ramp up their advertising to foreigners. They need bi-lingual staff (English, Cantonese, Korean,Mandarin...etc, certainly not in Spanish). 
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I suggest deleting Tuscan and propose Pagoda towers to match that horrible red house.
IndieDev said:
The Motor Court Company said:
Laguna Altura at current pricing, can be saved if
1. the VISIT-USA act gets passed
2. RMB keeps appreciating against the US Dollar

TIC needs to ramp up their advertising to foreigners. They need bi-lingual staff (English, Cantonese, Korean,Mandarin...etc, certainly not in Spanish).
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That might work. Turning Irvine into Chinatown OC is not an angle I thought of seriously in any respect, but more and more, I think it could be a realistic way to boost sales and generate tax revenue.
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irvinehomeowner said:
Considering Portola Springs is moving homes so slowly... what will Lambert Ranch do differently to sell more homes... or Heritage Fields?
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Im guessing those places will take a taylor morrison las ventanas approach and give you more bang for your buck relative to to TIC products, those guys wont necessarily have the luxury of waiting out (although they may i dont know).  I think the new home company priced their stonetree manor somewhat reasonably and that was probably with TIC restrictions, lambert ranch is their own development so im hoping they price more aggressively to move some homes.
 
qwerty said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Considering Portola Springs is moving homes so slowly... what will Lambert Ranch do differently to sell more homes... or Heritage Fields?
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Im guessing those places will take a taylor morrison las ventanas approach and give you more bang for your buck relative to to TIC products, those guys wont necessarily have the luxury of waiting out (although they may i dont know).  I think the new home company priced their stonetree manor somewhat reasonably and that was probably with TIC restrictions, lambert ranch is their own development so im hoping they price more aggressively to move some homes.
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If what they did with Las Ventanas was an indicator (and maybe them having learned from their experience with Las Colinas), they'll price the homes appropriately.  From my experience, they aren't the stubborn home builder that TIC...errr Irvine Pacific is.
 
That's not sales people's job functionality. It is property management's or HOA's.

irvinehomeshopper said:
Who will communicate to the landscape crew around the model complex?
The Motor Court Company said:
Laguna Altura at current pricing, can be saved if
1. the VISIT-USA act gets passed
2. RMB keeps appreciating against the US Dollar

TIC needs to ramp up their advertising to foreigners. They need bi-lingual staff (English, Cantonese, Korean,Mandarin...etc, certainly not in Spanish). 
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I wonder if they got some hints from their homebuying seminar... their latest email blast doesn't tout University High but instead:
TIC said:
Private Enclave
Elegant entry gates welcome you home to an exclusive Village featuring resort-style amenities and luxury single-family residences that inspire a graceful and sophisticated lifestyle.

Activities Surround You
Located minutes from Irvine Spectrum Center? and Fashion Island?, the cultural arts of Laguna Beach, golfing at Pelican Hill Golf Club? and much more, this convenient address creates an ideal style of living.

Prestigious Place to Work
Building quality neighborhoods near major job centers has been a high priority in Irvine from the start. Laguna Altura residents can enjoy short commutes to nearby employment centers.
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irvinehomeowner said:
I wonder if they got some hints from their homebuying seminar... their latest email blast doesn't tout University High but instead:
TIC said:
Private Enclave
Elegant entry gates welcome you home to an exclusive Village featuring resort-style amenities and luxury single-family residences that inspire a graceful and sophisticated lifestyle.

Activities Surround You
Located minutes from Irvine Spectrum Center? and Fashion Island?, the cultural arts of Laguna Beach, golfing at Pelican Hill Golf Club? and much more, this convenient address creates an ideal style of living.

Prestigious Place to Work
Building quality neighborhoods near major job centers has been a high priority in Irvine from the start. Laguna Altura residents can enjoy short commutes to nearby employment centers.
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Don't you think what you do is counterproductive to your personal goals? You hype the city yet you want Irvine Co to lower prices and offer more?

It's like a fat kid starting a popular blog and hyping the club and then wondering why there's a line or why he can't get in. And sadly thereafter still being the club's #1 hypeman. You're your own worst enemy for wanting to buy a house in Irvine. Once folks like you stop hyping the city(cause it's not all that), maybe Irvine Co will offer more for the $.

Hey Derek Fisher, the commisher...er TIC probably has a job for you when this all ends.
 
Pat Star said:
Well, the TI police chased Priscilla away, in an attempt to ensure a continuation of the echo chamber.  But then along come MovinUp who ups the ante even further.  Damn, entertainment like this is not doing anything for my efforts to stay away from reading TI...

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Come on, you know I enjoy talking smack on Irvine Pacific....errr TIC....errr the Motor Court Home Company...errrr _________...you get the idea.  It upsets me that they let the greed get in the way of building the right kind of homes at a reasonable price.  >:D

Both the realtor princess and MovingOnUp are more than welcome on the forum and I hope they continue to post....ditto for you too, someone has to keep IHO in check.  ;)
 
MovingOnUp said:
Don't you think what you do is counterproductive to your personal goals? You hype the city yet you want Irvine Co to lower prices and offer more?
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Yep... I like to live here and I want it to cost less too... who doesn't feel that way?
It's like a fat kid starting a popular blog and hyping the club and then wondering why there's a line or why he can't get in.
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I'm not fat... I'm big boned.
And sadly thereafter still being the club's #1 hypeman. You're your own worst enemy for wanting to buy a house in Irvine. Once folks like you stop hyping the city(cause it's not all that), maybe Irvine Co will offer more for the $.
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So Irvine prices are inflated because I'm hyping the city up? Yeah... didn't know how powerful my 3CWG powers were.
Hey Derek Fisher, the commisher...er TIC probably has a job for you when this all ends.
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Oooo... sore spot... I hate the NBA lockout. Players should play... that's what they're paid those big contracts to do. How many people ask their bosses to split revenue with them 52/48 in the employees' favor? Just work and stop complaining... I'll gladly sit on the pine for 6 to 7 figures.

And uh... MovinOnUp... welcome to TI.
 
USCTrojanCPA said:
...ditto for you too, someone has to keep IHO in check.  ;)
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You can take PatStar out of Irvine, but you can't take the TalkIrvine out of him. In fact, he has to keep deleting his posts or changing his screen name to hide how much he loves it here.  :-X

I should go stalk him on TalkValley.com.

BTW: I'm confused about the echo chamber remark from PatStar. There seems to be an even number of vocal people on both sides of buying or not buying in Irvine... so how was that "ensuring the continuation" of anything? She was pro buying in Irvine... I'm not even sure if this site can be considered pro-buying... maybe pro-playing basketball. :D
 
Pat Star said:
With respect to your other comments, I think you know what I mean.  It had nothing to do with her message, and everything to do with just blowing her out of the water to the extent there is no doubt she would leave. This website could use more active posters, not less, in my opinion.  Regardless of what they are saying.  But then I'm all about the entertainment factor. Others may differ from my opinion.
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Ah... so not "echo chamber" but more like "status quo". I agree with you totally on this point... I would rather she stay too and I'm glad that MovingOnUp is sticking around. Like I said, I thought she was going to ride it through but I woke up this morning and "poof"... gone.

Do you think the other members here were trying to make her leave? Or were just trying to get her to be honest and/or prove her mettle? There's a difference.
 
Pat Star said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Do you think the other members here were trying to make her leave?
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Yes.
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I wasn't. I hope she will come back, and I actually expect that she will. For all the talk about hazing, she really seemed like she could hold her own. I don't think she ran off with hurt feelings.
 
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