Laguna Altura Homebuying Seminar

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irvinehomeowner

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Just got this from TIC:
http://www2.irvinepacific.com/mk/get/LA025

Seems like they are really hurting for sales over at LagAlt. They are going to spend some time trying to convince you to buy their homes... and throw in some "light breakfast refreshments".

I don't think I've ever seen anything like this before from any new home builder.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Just got this from TIC:
http://www2.irvinepacific.com/mk/get/LA025

Seems like they are really hurting for sales over at LagAlt. They are going to spend some time trying to convince you to buy their homes... and throw in some "light breakfast refreshments".

I don't think I've ever seen anything like this before from any new home builder.
OMG, how funny would be it to have someone like Indy or Graphix go and tear them apart with questions.  haha  This has to be the most stupid thing they have come up with so far.

HEY TIC, maybe if you lower the prices you might sell more of those Laguna Altura homes.  But hey, what do I know about marketing and selling homes.  lol
 
26inirvine said:
are you going to attend?
I might if I have some free time.  I'd love to ask them about how it benefits me to get builder upgrades when they cost double what it would by going with an outside contractor or how going with their lender will result in me paying a higher interest rate than I can find with an outside lender.  haha
 
Man it would be a hoot if everyone came and asked a few "turd in the punchbowl" questions. A nice healthy dose of akwardness to chase down their provided "light breakfast".

TIC's marketing department really thinks this Time Share sales strategy is going to work on high net worth individuals? There is a stink of despair in it all.

My .02c

Soylent Green Is People.
 
Soylent Green Is People said:
Man it would be a hoot if everyone came and asked a few "turd in the punchbowl" questions. A nice healthy dose of akwardness to chase down their provided "light breakfast".

TIC's marketing department really thinks this Time Share sales strategy is going to work on high net worth individuals? There is a stink of despair in it all.

My .02c

Soylent Green Is People.
The thought of doing that is very tempting....
 
I recall KB did quite a few home buying seminars before. They have had like 3 food truck events to promote sales for their PS developments already (Ironwood/Primrose).

Any way, I would attend if they upgrade the light breakfast into a full breakfast bar, with made to order omelets..etc.
 
The Motor Court Company said:
I recall KB did quite a few home buying seminars before. They have had like 3 food truck events to promote sales for their PS developments already (Ironwood/Primrose).
Ahh... didn't know that... I guess I'm not on their lists.

I just think it's funny they have to do this for a "premium" neighborhood with $1mil homes.

Maybe they are going to talk about University High and show them how many Ivy League graduates they have.  ;)
 
wow... this is hilarious...  when are they going to resort to begging?

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW BAD IT IS?  I stopped by because a friend drove down from LA to check out Laguna Alt.    I mentioned to the sales person, "It seems as if sales have been slow.."    The person responded "Well, we've been getting ALOT of interest so I think things will be picking up.  I mean, they are very attractively priced.  I don't know if you know this but when these came out they were XXXXX.  If you are interested I would highly suggest you get pre-qualified.  Do you want to do that?"...    DUHHHHH..  You mispriced these by a large margin, and made a small adjustment even though they are still overpriced...    Do you really expect me to believe there is a line out the door when NO ONE is buying?   

SOOO, I responded, "I'd be interested if the price is going to come down.  These are the same houses that are in Maricopa, but over $100K more expensive...."    The person said, "are you from Irvine....  this is the Quail Hill area....  more desireable....  better schools..." and the WHOLE script...  They also said NOT to expect any additional price drops.    My guess is iPAC is going to be stubborn about this development and that they may really put the halt on building it out until the economy improves (when is that?) before they start lower prices.  It's pretty crazy.   
 
USCTrojanCPA said:
26inirvine said:
are you going to attend?
I might if I have some free time.  I'd love to ask them about how it benefits me to get builder upgrades when they cost double what it would by going with an outside contractor or how going with their lender will result in me paying a higher interest rate than I can find with an outside lender.  haha

Not that I mind you answering, as you would be included but  I was actually asking the board as a whole.  Anyone plan to attend?
 
I wonder what this seminar is going to be like:

- How to navigate a motorcourt
- What to do with your dining room set when you move here
- How we are different from Stonegate
 
TIC is concern that the buyers did not understand the positive attributes LA has to offer. The price difference is worth the extra trees planted, private gate, lucky red paint, upgraded materials around front doors (not foam trims like the cheap villages) and the attendees will receive a hardbound scenic book signed by Donald Bren and Dan Young only if they decide to make a purchase.

The buyers in the cheap villages only get the old edition and not signed.
 
i was asking because I cruised by there (Cortona) on my way back to work after a meeting because I got notice they released phase 3.  Phase 3 is priced the same as phase 2 which is $855/960/1030 for models 1,2 and 3 respectively.    They still had phase 2 homes (2 plan 2's and 1 plan3) which have been there collecting dust for a couple of months.  I noticed that for the plan 2's, they've reached the point of no return where the builder starts selecting the upgrades.    Here's the deal.  They price the included upgrades at full retail (but try to sell it off as you are getting some great deal).    I asked  about how price reductions, incentives, etc...    They said no dice and that they are selling these homes as they come on the market.  Interesting, I SWEAR the price sheet says 3 homes from phase 2 available.  She says they did sell some and that it's not like it was 10 years ago... duh...    In any event, I'm sick and tired of bushlitting with these folks so I start asking a lot of questions.  They just keep telling me that TIC believe LA is well priced, and priced to move. 

I tell the lady my situation, that I currently own a home.  She basically tells me that I better price it cheaper if I want to sell it.  I ask why they won't lower their prices then.  She comments "well the resale market is slowing, but this is a NEW home... you'd be lucky to get one of these".  If this is in any way reflective of TIC's opinions then they've got a serious problem. 

I was in escrow in march and fell out of escrow at my choosing.    I swear, if they would have come down 10-15K I would have closed, but they wouldnt budge.  Now?  The current asking price is well below what we were in escrow for.  The market seems to be pretty soft. 
 
akim997 said:
i was asking because I cruised by there (Cortona) on my way back to work after a meeting because I got notice they released phase 3.  Phase 3 is priced the same as phase 2 which is $855/960/1030 for models 1,2 and 3 respectively.    They still had phase 2 homes (2 plan 2's and 1 plan3) which have been there collecting dust for a couple of months.  I noticed that for the plan 2's, they've reached the point of no return where the builder starts selecting the upgrades.    Here's the deal.  They price the included upgrades at full retail (but try to sell it off as you are getting some great deal).    I asked  about how price reductions, incentives, etc...    They said no dice and that they are selling these homes as they come on the market.  Interesting, I SWEAR the price sheet says 3 homes from phase 2 available.  She says they did sell some and that it's not like it was 10 years ago... duh...    In any event, I'm sick and tired of bushlitting with these folks so I start asking a lot of questions.  They just keep telling me that TIC believe LA is well priced, and priced to move. 

I tell the lady my situation, that I currently own a home.  She basically tells me that I better price it cheaper if I want to sell it.  I ask why they won't lower their prices then.  She comments "well the resale market is slowing, but this is a NEW home... you'd be lucky to get one of these".  If this is in any way reflective of TIC's opinions then they've got a serious problem. 

I was in escrow in march and fell out of escrow at my choosing.    I swear, if they would have come down 10-15K I would have closed, but they wouldnt budge.  Now?  The current asking price is well below what we were in escrow for.  The market seems to be pretty soft. 
You'd be LUCKY to have get a new home, huh?  Man, what a joke.  It's more like they would be lucky if they are able to sell them at the current prices.  Do they not realize that things have slowed down and that the jumbo conforming loan limit has decreased?  You should have asked them this...."Do you guys actually believe what you are saying or are just required to say that to keep your job?"
 
I spoke to a certain "in house lender"...  yes they were aware of that (WF lender) and were hoping for some extension.  Once it didnt happen, it was like the Men In Black taser which erases your memory.  No mention of it...  just that "Jumbo rates are really cheap!!!"   

From a TIC perspective, I think they could care less.  They actually do not want to sell at market clearing price, which I kind of get.
 
This illustrates that since TIC is the owner, developer, and builder they have an advantage over builders... they can just have homes sitting without drastically reducing prices.

And while their home sales languish, they just keep on terra-forming land for their apartments... has anyone seen how much work they've done near Wild Rivers and over at Cypress Village?
 
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