Irvine's 5th High School
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That's exactly what it is like, and the toxic environment has trickled to the UCs these days too. Top tier public education at all levels is a joke...don't buy in Irvine, save the money, send your kids to private colleges...
Seems only a portion of the town was invited to the "town hall": probably the portion who happened to be supporters of Agran and Krom and on their mailing list. The timing of it (just two days before the School Board meeting), who was invited (Agran/Krom supporters), the content ("here's why Site B is the only reasonable option") and the message ("be sure to go to the School Board meeting to let them know how you feel") seems like politics as usual.
Most folks still seem to be avoiding discussion of the $360M combined price tag for the two buildings: the new high school and proposed police station. Along with this, also losing sight of where these funds will come from, how we pay for the hundreds of millions more needed for the Great Park and what happens if/when we have another housing downturn and/or Sacramento spends more than it has (again).
Site B may or may not be a better location. But the fact that they are bringing it up now this late in the game, and being so adamant about it, shows that their goal is not to build in the better location, but to disrupt construction of the new school altogether and rile up the people for political purposes.
LOL!!! Wow, so much misinformation in one post. Getting into OxCam is extremely difficult, so whoever told you that it is "automatic"for Chinese students - has never set a foot in the U.K.'s ed system. To get into OxCam you need at least 4 "A"s on British A-Levels (very difficult high school exams) - which is virtually impossible unless you are a brilliant brainiac. I went to a private British boarding school and while we had a few students from Hong Kong/Taiwan - most of them had a very difficult time getting into ANY British U, let alone OxCam. In fact, most of them could not even get an "A" in A-Level Chinese which is supposed to be easy since it is their native language (that's how hard A-Levels are).
British college admission system is only "motivated" by what a student gets on his/her A-Levels (and letters of recs), not money. Getting into US college is by comparison is a joke, that's why they are coming here. U can attend community college for 2years and still end up graduating from Berkeley or UCLA, just simply transfer and completely bypass the SATs. Done that myself.
Also, you have been misinformed by UC admission policies. UC admissions (at least in UCLA where I am on alumni admissions council) still has a mandate to admit about 75% of California students. So please...stop the hysteria.
Uni high college admission statistics is very impressive comparing to other schools. UCLA, Berkeley, Cornell, Stanford etc. Yes, some students will go to community colleges but because of their strong high school background they will nail all "A"s and transfer to USC, UCLA, Berkeley with a minimum effort. Will save massive amount in college tuition in the process. That's a lot smarter than going to a 4-year private school right after graduation and end us with a massive loan balance.
"The brave economist could be a powerful presence in an American academy that often checks its principles at the door when it enters China."
The conclusion really hammers it in. Anything works if the principles are checked at the door.
I'm not surprised that this happened to him. I am surprised they didn't send him to a coal mine in Siberia.
There's no way to fix this impending train wreck, that's why so many mainlanders are jumping ship to the US and other countries. A countries success can be measured by how many of its best and brightest stays. Which in China's case, it's a big failure.
People like Heywood don't see it coming, ever. If Heywood knew everything he did would lead to his own demise he would have done things a lot differently ... perhaps a different line a work, for starters?
Anyhow, Heywood most likely pocketed a good chunk but unless his family knows how to access it, the banks now own all of it.
thedude111222
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zubs said:
That's exactly what it is like, and the toxic environment has trickled to the UCs these days too. Top tier public education at all levels is a joke...don't buy in Irvine, save the money, send your kids to private colleges...
IUSD Board of Education discusses district?s fifth high school and proposed alternative site
http://newsflash.iusd.org/2013/10/s...oposed-locations-for-iusds-fifth-high-school/
Thursday, October 17, 2013
This week, the IUSD Board of Education engaged in a marathon discussion over the district?s fifth comprehensive high school and a possible alternative location.
No action was taken by the board on Tuesday night, but district staff and consultants delivered a detailed presentation that covered the pros and cons associated with both sites, as well as IUSD?s mitigation agreements with developers, the state?s process for site approval, joint-use possibilities with the City of Irvine, timing and the financial implications of switching locations.
With residential development on the rise, IUSD has repeatedly articulated the need to open a fifth comprehensive high school in the fall of 2016 to prevent significant overcrowding at its other high school campuses. To that end, the district and its partnering developers have agreements in place for a 40-acre chunk of property near the northeast border of the Orange County Great Park, generally referred to as Site A.
But a member of the Irvine City Council has proposed an alternative parcel for the school, and on Sept. 10 the City Council voted to offer 40 acres of city-owned land on the west side of the Great Park, known as Site B, for the district?s consideration.
IUSD is now reviewing both sites. But, as was shared on Tuesday, it?s far more complicated than simply deciding between two locations. For starters, there are complex legal agreements in place with multiple developers, and the review process for Site B is just beginning, making it highly unlikely that a campus could open at that location in 2016. There are also significant costs associated with changing sites, including hefty state fees and the price of temporarily housing an influx of high school students elsewhere if the project is delayed a year or two.
The bottom line is that any location is bound to have its pluses and minuses. While proponents of Site B have noted that Site A is slated to be part of a residential development that is closer to the minimum-security James A. Musick Facility, there is no evidence to suggest that facility poses an increased safety threat. Meanwhile, there are safety concerns and questions that need to be answered as part of the evaluation process for Site B, which would be located in a more heavily trafficked area of the Orange County Great Park.
?We know what Site A is,? board member Sharon Wallin said. ?So do you take Site A, or do you take what?s behind the door? ? At this point I don?t know that it?s been unveiled.?
Needless to say, state and federal agencies have high standards for building new schools, and IUSD?s school board members expressed their commitment to putting students first. IUSD will continue vetting both sites on concurrent tracks, leading up to complete site reviews by the California Department of Education.
http://newsflash.iusd.org/2013/10/s...oposed-locations-for-iusds-fifth-high-school/
Thursday, October 17, 2013
This week, the IUSD Board of Education engaged in a marathon discussion over the district?s fifth comprehensive high school and a possible alternative location.
No action was taken by the board on Tuesday night, but district staff and consultants delivered a detailed presentation that covered the pros and cons associated with both sites, as well as IUSD?s mitigation agreements with developers, the state?s process for site approval, joint-use possibilities with the City of Irvine, timing and the financial implications of switching locations.
With residential development on the rise, IUSD has repeatedly articulated the need to open a fifth comprehensive high school in the fall of 2016 to prevent significant overcrowding at its other high school campuses. To that end, the district and its partnering developers have agreements in place for a 40-acre chunk of property near the northeast border of the Orange County Great Park, generally referred to as Site A.
But a member of the Irvine City Council has proposed an alternative parcel for the school, and on Sept. 10 the City Council voted to offer 40 acres of city-owned land on the west side of the Great Park, known as Site B, for the district?s consideration.
IUSD is now reviewing both sites. But, as was shared on Tuesday, it?s far more complicated than simply deciding between two locations. For starters, there are complex legal agreements in place with multiple developers, and the review process for Site B is just beginning, making it highly unlikely that a campus could open at that location in 2016. There are also significant costs associated with changing sites, including hefty state fees and the price of temporarily housing an influx of high school students elsewhere if the project is delayed a year or two.
The bottom line is that any location is bound to have its pluses and minuses. While proponents of Site B have noted that Site A is slated to be part of a residential development that is closer to the minimum-security James A. Musick Facility, there is no evidence to suggest that facility poses an increased safety threat. Meanwhile, there are safety concerns and questions that need to be answered as part of the evaluation process for Site B, which would be located in a more heavily trafficked area of the Orange County Great Park.
?We know what Site A is,? board member Sharon Wallin said. ?So do you take Site A, or do you take what?s behind the door? ? At this point I don?t know that it?s been unveiled.?
Needless to say, state and federal agencies have high standards for building new schools, and IUSD?s school board members expressed their commitment to putting students first. IUSD will continue vetting both sites on concurrent tracks, leading up to complete site reviews by the California Department of Education.
irvinehomeshopper
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In China the top government officials sent their princeling child to the top boarding schools in England. From there getting into Oxford and Cambridge becomes automatic. Bo Gua Gua was an example. To many Chinese parents from oversea think similarly if they could not bribe their way into a prestigious English or American boarding school then the Irvine schools are the best alternatives. Little do they know in America the college admission is different and less motivated by money. Top 1 % of all Irvine high school students will attend the top private colleges with a superior SAT score. Top 1% of Woodbridge high will not attend top private college next year because no students score higher than 2,230. A total of 18 students from the entire IUSD might attend a top private college. UC campuses as of 2 years ago reduced acceptance rate of California applicants by 50% favoring out of state and foreign students.
zubs
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It's ok, the Chinese can apply as foreigners, and pay the foreign tuition which is 3X more expensive, and still go to Berkerey.
I think I just made fun of the wrong race.
From Wikipedia:
During World War II, some United States soldiers in the Pacific theater used the word lollapalooza as a shibboleth to challenge unidentified persons, on the premise that Japanese people often pronounce the letter L as R or confuse Rs with Ls; the word is also an American colloquialism that even a foreign person fairly well-versed in American English would probably mispronounce or be unfamiliar with.[11] In George Stimpson's A Book about a Thousand Things, the author notes that, in the war, Japanese spies would often approach checkpoints posing as American or Filipino military personnel. A shibboleth such as "lollapalooza" would be used by the sentry, who, if the first two syllables come back as rorra, would "open fire without waiting to hear the remainder"
I think I just made fun of the wrong race.
From Wikipedia:
During World War II, some United States soldiers in the Pacific theater used the word lollapalooza as a shibboleth to challenge unidentified persons, on the premise that Japanese people often pronounce the letter L as R or confuse Rs with Ls; the word is also an American colloquialism that even a foreign person fairly well-versed in American English would probably mispronounce or be unfamiliar with.[11] In George Stimpson's A Book about a Thousand Things, the author notes that, in the war, Japanese spies would often approach checkpoints posing as American or Filipino military personnel. A shibboleth such as "lollapalooza" would be used by the sentry, who, if the first two syllables come back as rorra, would "open fire without waiting to hear the remainder"
irvinehomeshopper
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Being a government official in China is like a game of Russian Roulette. Every few years they have to pick out a few to go to jail and take away all their wealth. This is why wives, elder parents and children are sent to live in America or England just in case they draw the shortest chopstick. Read about Bo Xilai. China worships the west for innovation, technology, and education. An education from the west is prized higher than the local universities. Even the top officials don't trust their own country.
Tyler Durden said:
lcms2002 said:
Seems only a portion of the town was invited to the "town hall": probably the portion who happened to be supporters of Agran and Krom and on their mailing list. The timing of it (just two days before the School Board meeting), who was invited (Agran/Krom supporters), the content ("here's why Site B is the only reasonable option") and the message ("be sure to go to the School Board meeting to let them know how you feel") seems like politics as usual.
Most folks still seem to be avoiding discussion of the $360M combined price tag for the two buildings: the new high school and proposed police station. Along with this, also losing sight of where these funds will come from, how we pay for the hundreds of millions more needed for the Great Park and what happens if/when we have another housing downturn and/or Sacramento spends more than it has (again).
Yep! said:
Site B may or may not be a better location. But the fact that they are bringing it up now this late in the game, and being so adamant about it, shows that their goal is not to build in the better location, but to disrupt construction of the new school altogether and rile up the people for political purposes.
irvinehomeshopper
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Building above the toxic PLUME for a school could be a problem for public health. The EIR will slow down progress.
irvinehomeshopper said:
LOL!!! Wow, so much misinformation in one post. Getting into OxCam is extremely difficult, so whoever told you that it is "automatic"for Chinese students - has never set a foot in the U.K.'s ed system. To get into OxCam you need at least 4 "A"s on British A-Levels (very difficult high school exams) - which is virtually impossible unless you are a brilliant brainiac. I went to a private British boarding school and while we had a few students from Hong Kong/Taiwan - most of them had a very difficult time getting into ANY British U, let alone OxCam. In fact, most of them could not even get an "A" in A-Level Chinese which is supposed to be easy since it is their native language (that's how hard A-Levels are).
British college admission system is only "motivated" by what a student gets on his/her A-Levels (and letters of recs), not money. Getting into US college is by comparison is a joke, that's why they are coming here. U can attend community college for 2years and still end up graduating from Berkeley or UCLA, just simply transfer and completely bypass the SATs. Done that myself.
Also, you have been misinformed by UC admission policies. UC admissions (at least in UCLA where I am on alumni admissions council) still has a mandate to admit about 75% of California students. So please...stop the hysteria.
Uni high college admission statistics is very impressive comparing to other schools. UCLA, Berkeley, Cornell, Stanford etc. Yes, some students will go to community colleges but because of their strong high school background they will nail all "A"s and transfer to USC, UCLA, Berkeley with a minimum effort. Will save massive amount in college tuition in the process. That's a lot smarter than going to a 4-year private school right after graduation and end us with a massive loan balance.
ZeroLot
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Tyler Durden said:
"The brave economist could be a powerful presence in an American academy that often checks its principles at the door when it enters China."
The conclusion really hammers it in. Anything works if the principles are checked at the door.
I'm not surprised that this happened to him. I am surprised they didn't send him to a coal mine in Siberia.
There's no way to fix this impending train wreck, that's why so many mainlanders are jumping ship to the US and other countries. A countries success can be measured by how many of its best and brightest stays. Which in China's case, it's a big failure.
irvinehomeshopper
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Veronica if you want to hear the proof that UC are accepting 50% less California resident please watch this Youtubehttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LuxDd3RF-Zk
the speaker works at UC Berkeley and Yale as admission officer. It is long and informative. BoGuaGua got in to Oxford because his parents used connection and later killed the man to shut him up.
the speaker works at UC Berkeley and Yale as admission officer. It is long and informative. BoGuaGua got in to Oxford because his parents used connection and later killed the man to shut him up.
Veronica said:
zubs
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I thought Heywood was killed because he tried to get a higher cut of the RMBs he was transferring out of China for the Bo family. It's probably a multitude of reasons.
1. Tried to get a higher percent of RMBs going out of China
2. Knows where the bodies are buried and is blackmailing Bo family
3. Was tricked into drinking cyanide laced whiskey because gua gua was admitted to Oxford?
#3 is kinda weak.
1. Tried to get a higher percent of RMBs going out of China
2. Knows where the bodies are buried and is blackmailing Bo family
3. Was tricked into drinking cyanide laced whiskey because gua gua was admitted to Oxford?
#3 is kinda weak.
irvinehomeshopper
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Heywood was promised business incentives for getting Bo Gua Gua into Harrow prep school and Oxford. He knew way to much and Bo's mother silenced him. Bo Gua Gua was an average student at Oxford and was on probation academically. Heywood also fixed that and Bo graduated and went to Harvard and now Columbia.
zubs said:
ZeroLot
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Tyler Durden said:
People like Heywood don't see it coming, ever. If Heywood knew everything he did would lead to his own demise he would have done things a lot differently ... perhaps a different line a work, for starters?
Anyhow, Heywood most likely pocketed a good chunk but unless his family knows how to access it, the banks now own all of it.
