How Homedebtors Could Avoid Foreclosure - IR's Post

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<p>awgee,</p>

<p>The investor only pays 1/2 of HOA and tax and $0 mortgage payment. The investor is subsidizing the mortgage rate; therefore allowing the buyer paying only 1/2 of the normal cost. In this case, this young lady only pays $4,000/month instead of the normal $8,000/month (calculation shown to show where $8000 arrived). I am thinking this SAM program is more aggressive.</p>
 
<p>Ok aside from the fact that people have become so desperate to "own" a home that they are willing to only "own" half of the home and rent the other four bedrooms out and not claim that on their income taxes even though the IRS would see a red flag with the income they claim and the payment they are making but what is up with the Rex Group? (That is the worst run on sentence I ever wrote). They are willing to do an option contract on the future value of your home without going on title. But they record memorandum and a security instrument that proves their interest in the property. So either these guys have something in the contract that would make it easy for them to exercise it or they are really screwed. I would have to read more about it and actually see an existing contract but if these guys fail (BK) their contract would expire worthless to them but free money in the hands of the homeowner. It's late and I'm really tired and can't believe this is true but if you bought in the last two or three years but want to sell in the next five this would help with a loss or a flat price. <a href="http://www.rexandco.com/index.php/form/calculator/">http://www.rexandco.com/index.php/form/calculator/</a> . </p>

<p>Unreal first it's derivatives of derivatives that have insurance contracts that have derivatives on them but now we have option contracts on the value of individual homes. Nope nothing wrong here just another sunny day.</p>
 
Nir - Thanks for your help in my understanding this. I do understand that the young lady is only paying $4,000, but in the scenario as you presented, doesn't the investor have a negative cash flow of $48,000 per year since they are paying the other $4,000 per month? If not the investor, then who is paying the remainder of the monthly expenses? After rereading your response, it seems maybe the total monthly payment is only $4,000? And the investor is "subsidizing" the mortgage rate? How does the investor do this? What does subsidizing mean? I am unfamiliar with subsidizing.





What I do understand is that at 0% interest, the principal payment is $3055 per month and the taxes are $1100 per month. Are you saying the investor is loaning their own money and only requiring an interest payment of $2900, ($4000 - $1100), from the young lady, with no principal paid? If this were the case the investor would be getting a return of less than 3% on their money with no return of principal. And that is not including HOA, insurance, and maintenence. And the payoff for the investor is a possible half share of gain at sale?



Maybe, you can get me in contact with this investor. I could lower my rent, (house payment or whatever it is), and my rent would never go up. This investor would be subsidizing my monthly housing expense and I could live in the house with no risk as long as I wait until there is a gain on the sale. My monthly housing expense would be immune from inflation.
 
awgee,





If the investor is putting up cash with no leverage, then the occupying homeowner is the only one making payments, and their loan is only on half the property. The investor would have no negative cashflow, but they would have "dead money" parked in a piece of real estate betting on future appreciation. Really, it is very similar to a raw land play: you pay minimal taxes, you get no income, and you wait for property values to rise.





I still don't understand why an investor would do this. Why not just buy a rental unit with cash? You can get about a 3% return on your money, and you can sell at any time you want to capture appreciation. It makes no sense to tie yourself in with a homeowner who controls the timing of sale.








Let's look at the flipside. If I were an investor, what would I want to make this deal worthwhile. My first thought is that I would want to turn this into an option for 100% of the equity (like graphix suggested). It would work like this: a buyer wants a $1,000,000 home, but they only have $500,000 they can raise. I put in $500,000, and they put in $500,000, and they buy the $1,000,000 home. They pay all taxes, insurance, HOA, etc. so that I have no negative cashflow. When they sell the home at an arms-length transaction (which I must approve), they receive $500,000 at the closing (less if the net of closing costs are less than $1,000,000.) They pay off any loan on the property out of their $500,000 and keep the rest. I get everything else.





So let's say the house increases 20%-25% in value and sells for $1,200,000 (net of commissions). When it sells, the buyer gets $500,000, and I get $700,000 for a $200,000 profit. As a investor/speculator this makes sense because the homeowner has increased my leverage on the investment by 50% and eliminated all my carrying costs. I have made a 40% return on my investment. Of course, it depends on how quickly I get this money to see what my real rate of return is, but this turns even a 5% rate of appreciation into a 10% annual rate of return. As an investor, you would need to ask yourself if investing in real estate without any positive cashflow and without control of the timing of the sale is worth the potential profit. For those who drink the kool-aid and believe in continual double-digit appreciation, the answer is probably yes.





The buyer has a difficult decision to make: do I live in a larger home today and give up any appreciation, or do I live in a smaller home and make a profit. Which would you choose? I suspect many "buyers" would do this. I might. It is basically a rental with ownership control. The payment is fixed for as long as you live there, and you can live there as long as you like.
 
irvinerenter - Exactly, you don't understand why an investor would do this, because they wouldn't. It is worse than dead money. This "investment" is losing capital through inflation and assuming all risk for limited reward. There is no creative financing which can turn a sow's ear into a silk purse.



How do you all create the paragraph breaks in your posts?
 
<p>irvinerenter, your analysis is excellent as always. One thing I am still unclear is who made the original loan. There is no equity sharing loans as far as I can tell. SAM won't pay for the tax nor the HOA. </p>
 
<p>Don't know if I should !</p>

<p>From Rex & Co. FAQs:</p>

<p><strong>Can REX & Co. ever make me sell my home or take over control of my home?</strong></p>



<p>Only under limited circumstances as clearly specified in your REX Agreement and only after REX first exercises it purchase option. Examples of such circumstances include (please see the Product Information Guide for the complete list):</p>



Homeowner fails to maintain the home as their primary residence

Homeowner fails to keep the home in good condition, subject to ordinary wear and tear.

Homeowner does not promptly pay taxes, insurance and any mortgage loan.

Homeowner does not maintain proper insurance coverage.

Homeowner exceeds the agreed upon limit on the total principal amount of any loans that may be secured by the home.

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<p><strong>However, in all such cases you will have the right and opportunity before REX & Co. takes any action, to repurchase REX & Co.’s interest.</strong></p>
 
<p>awgee,</p>

<p>I rather not give out the names as if I am promoting the product. I can tell you they are located in Rancho Santa Margarita. You may find them through google. I am sure you will do extensive investigation to make sure it's a win-win for everyone.</p>
 
<p>Well, I'll be...</p>

<p>It looks like the City of Irvine is getting into the equity share game for their low income housing program. I don't know the details, but you can see the reference here: <a href="http://www.ci.irvine.ca.us/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=6388">http://www.ci.irvine.ca.us/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=6388</a> (search for "equity share"). Can anyone call the city and get the skinny on the affordable housing equity share program?</p>
 
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