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lnc said:
zubs said:
How far this bitch is gonna drop is important:

5% decrease at 2020 - Buy now don't care about a 5% decrease
10% decrease at 2020 - The line between buy now and wait, but if you find a house you like, get it.
15% decrease at 2020 - Wait until 2020 and beyond to buy
20% decrease at 2020 - Not likely because owners have strong hand this time.
etc.

So back to this.. I think 10% is it.

I'm leaning toward towards 10% in 2020 for Irvine too.

However not all Irvine home will drop 10% though, some property might not see a drop at all especially if it's a highly desirable one. 

And even if it did drop 10% in 2020, the price still up in 2018 at around 6-7% and with a modest increase of 2-4% in 2019 (the rate of price increase are slowing down but its still going up, many housing economist still project a modest increase in 2019) , which means the buyer are practically paying 2018's home price in 2020.  Might as well buy it now if you find a house you like.

Thank you. That's my same thinking. If no one can say it's going to definitely be 20% across the board in 2 years, then is it really worth waiting?
 
I rarely make predictions, but here's one for the fortune tellers/seekers on this thread - Irvine housing prices will track inflation, plus 2-5 points over the course of the next decade and beyond.

Profound? No. But that's the point. Who cares? Buy a house you can reasonably afford and forget about its value.
 
Paying 2018 price is likely in 2020, in addition it likely to cost you more. Why? The elephant in the room is rate hikes. So you will have even less buying power.

Alot of homes never loose values. Homeowners hold on to them 4evar.
 
All this arguing is a moot point. Amazon HQ2 going to be announced for Irvine and housing prices will skyrocket. Amirite guys?

I know Irvine isn't a finalist. But I'm sure as Silicon Beach and Valley get overpopulated Irvine seems like the next logical "tech hub"
 
Cares said:
All this arguing is a moot point. Amazon HQ2 going to be announced for Irvine and housing prices will skyrocket. Amirite guys?

I know Irvine isn't a finalist. But I'm sure as Silicon Beach and Valley get overpopulated Irvine seems like the next logical "tech hub"

I would like it be that way.
 
Compressed-Village said:
Cares said:
All this arguing is a moot point. Amazon HQ2 going to be announced for Irvine and housing prices will skyrocket. Amirite guys?

I know Irvine isn't a finalist. But I'm sure as Silicon Beach and Valley get overpopulated Irvine seems like the next logical "tech hub"

I would like it be that way.

Now I?m thinking. Are you highly leveraged in RE?
(I can?t believe you fell for that Amazon HQ/tech hub story)
 
Greed is one of the deadly sin my friend. I am a prudent investor but greed and over leverage is not in my blood.

My investments plan is at least 10 years or more. You have to think about the bad time  first and how to safeguard and what are your options before even think about exit plan.

That was a joke on Amazon. It never will happen

 
Let me rephrase my question. Do you own multiple properties?

Compressed-Village said:
Greed is one of the deadly sin my friend. I am a prudent investor but greed and over leverage is not in my blood.

My investments plan is at least 10 years or more. You have to think about the bad time  first and how to safeguard and what are your options before even think about exit plan.

That was a joke on Amazon. It never will happen
 
eyephone said:
When did you buy your Riverside properties? (before or after the last bubble)

2009-2012 in Riverside County (not city).  2012 was the last year in previous cycle when the price was still low and there was a LOT of competition.  If you're investing near the tail end of the down cycle, look for older, smaller SFR's with leaky roof and termite damage to reduce competition.

For Riverside County, in better Northern areas like Corona and Eastvale, the price drop from peak to bottom was about 50% ($600K -> $300K).  To the South, Lake Elsinore/Widomar/Murrieta/Temecula can be scary with 66% drop ($350K -> $150K).
 
eyephone said:
Let me rephrase my question. Do you own multiple properties?

Compressed-Village said:
Greed is one of the deadly sin my friend. I am a prudent investor but greed and over leverage is not in my blood.

My investments plan is at least 10 years or more. You have to think about the bad time  first and how to safeguard and what are your options before even think about exit plan.

That was a joke on Amazon. It never will happen

Yes, and I those have done very well.
 
Compressed-Village said:
eyephone said:
Let me rephrase my question. Do you own multiple properties?

Compressed-Village said:
Greed is one of the deadly sin my friend. I am a prudent investor but greed and over leverage is not in my blood.

My investments plan is at least 10 years or more. You have to think about the bad time  first and how to safeguard and what are your options before even think about exit plan.

That was a joke on Amazon. It never will happen

Yes, and I those have done very well.

So this is why you think that nothing is happening.
 
eyephone said:
Compressed-Village said:
eyephone said:
Let me rephrase my question. Do you own multiple properties?

Compressed-Village said:
Greed is one of the deadly sin my friend. I am a prudent investor but greed and over leverage is not in my blood.

My investments plan is at least 10 years or more. You have to think about the bad time  first and how to safeguard and what are your options before even think about exit plan.

That was a joke on Amazon. It never will happen

Yes, and I those have done very well.

Come again willus

So this is why you think that nothing is happening.
 
Compressed-Village said:
eyephone said:
Let me rephrase my question. Do you own multiple properties?

Compressed-Village said:
Greed is one of the deadly sin my friend. I am a prudent investor but greed and over leverage is not in my blood.

My investments plan is at least 10 years or more. You have to think about the bad time  first and how to safeguard and what are your options before even think about exit plan.

That was a joke on Amazon. It never will happen

Yes, and I those have done very well.

But if you bought amazon when BTB and I were chatting about it. You probably done the best. ;)

I hope your on the Canabis stock train. (Ride the train, but be ready to jump off)
 
Kenkoko said:
I also went to Taipei schools through 9th grade. I was not as lucky as you tho. My parents put me on the academic track which put me in school from 6AM to 6PM everyday except Sundays. After 6PM it's cram school and tutoring until 9PM.
When I came to to US for high school, ( Arcadia not Irvine) I was quite surprised at the level of math and sciences classes. I don't think I learned anything new until halfway through my AP classes in my senior year.

I moved to the US when I was still in elementary school.  We lived in Anaheim and I gradated from Rio Vista Elementary.  Back then I got off school before 3PM and was out by Santa Ana river fishing all the time.  As a kid I thought all the trout and catfish was "native", years later I found out they were probably stocked upstream at Prado Dam or Santa Ana River Lakes and was released when they released water.

My parents were somewhat "free range" instead of "helicopter".  They were both blue collar workers and I was simply told to 1) be home before midnight (or obtain permission ahead), 2) graduate, 3) get a job.  I was pushing shopping carts at Diho supermarket in Artesia at age 16.  At HS I never took AP classes, somehow I made it all the way to grad school because...  that's where all the girls were (college).  @_@
 
zubs said:
How far this bitch is gonna drop is important:

5% decrease at 2020 - Buy now don't care about a 5% decrease
10% decrease at 2020 - The line between buy now and wait, but if you find a house you like, get it.
15% decrease at 2020 - Wait until 2020 and beyond to buy
20% decrease at 2020 - Not likely because owners have strong hand this time.
etc.

So back to this.. I think 10% is it.

I am leaning towards 5% decrease at 2020.
But I wouldn?t buy now because I see a possible doomsday scenario of a US slowdown compounded by a China meltdown beyond 2020.
2020 is most likely too soon to tell. 

Irvine?s cost to rent vs buy is also big enough that I just don?t see buying now (with a 5 year outlook) as a good financial decision or a quality of life improvement. If you have a budget of $4500 a month on housing, you can only afford to buy a house around 900k in Irvine. But you can rent a 1.5 mil mansion.

The only thing I would worry is rates going way up, dropping your future purchasing power. But you can solve that by renting the 900k home and save up.
 
eyephone said:
Perspective said:
eyephone said:
You have to admit it has something to do with the new tax law. Look all over price reductions. In high tax states and low tax states. (It?s not seasonality)

That's a question for realtors here. Are buyers using the temporary tax changes as a reason for offering less or not making offers? Do these buyers understand how nominal the amounts are (relative to their incomes and wealth)?

So according to you there?s no slowdown?

I think many people came to conclusion that there is a slowdown.

Also, there might be a conflict of interest if you ask an RE person.

I'll have an update to my thread about what I'm seeing tomorrow and yes there is a slowdown but not a melt down....I'll explain my in thread. 
 
eyephone said:
Compressed-Village said:
eyephone said:
Let me rephrase my question. Do you own multiple properties?

Compressed-Village said:
Greed is one of the deadly sin my friend. I am a prudent investor but greed and over leverage is not in my blood.

My investments plan is at least 10 years or more. You have to think about the bad time  first and how to safeguard and what are your options before even think about exit plan.

That was a joke on Amazon. It never will happen

Yes, and I those have done very well.

But if you bought amazon when BTB and I were chatting about it. You probably done the best. ;)

I hope your on the Canabis stock train. (Ride the train, but be ready to jump off)

There are certain principles that I would not cross even if it makes me millions. Canabis is now legal but that's only because our gov see additional revenue that can be capture. Up until the recent law pass, it was illegal. I am not going on that train.
 
Compressed-Village said:
eyephone said:
Compressed-Village said:
eyephone said:
Let me rephrase my question. Do you own multiple properties?

Compressed-Village said:
Greed is one of the deadly sin my friend. I am a prudent investor but greed and over leverage is not in my blood.

My investments plan is at least 10 years or more. You have to think about the bad time  first and how to safeguard and what are your options before even think about exit plan.

That was a joke on Amazon. It never will happen

Yes, and I those have done very well.

But if you bought amazon when BTB and I were chatting about it. You probably done the best. ;)

I hope your on the Canabis stock train. (Ride the train, but be ready to jump off)

There are certain principles that I would not cross even if it makes me millions. Canabis is now legal but that's only because our gov see additional revenue that can be capture. Up until the recent law pass, it was illegal. I am not going on that train.

Cv: What othe companies or industries you won?t invest in?
 
Canabis is still illegal at the Fed level.

Even though many states have legalized it, doing business for them is difficult for them mainly due to electronic fund transactions (hence the popularity of cryptocurrency).

I would be cautious getting involved in anything canabis-related, I would say more but I don't have to, just go to YouTube. :)
 
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