Hidden Canyon in Irvine
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Just curious, but how are the floor plans in Quail Hill homes that are similar in size to Hidden Canyon homes or something over 3,500 sqft? I have never been to homes in Quail Hill. Are they chopped up like Turtle Ridge homes?? Some people prefer the new home that they can customize, open floor plan and bragging rights behind the gates.
There are some QH homes that are around 4000 sqft. Some also have pretty good views. But, the layout of these homes definitely feel dated and chopped up. They were built around the same time as the Turtle Ridge homes. The new open floor plan at HC is far superior.
If there's an older home that's cheap per sqft for the location then you can always remodel. $100k turns most houses into something livable. Only downside is that you usually need cash. I'd rather pay 100k over 30 years at 3.5%.
A wall seperating the kitchen and living room you can usually get that taken down no problem. Worse case is that a support beam needs to be put in.
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I too love the open floor plan and modern layouts in the newly built homes that are closer to Orchard Hills, but would like to be more centrally located towards 405 Jamboree/Culver; unfortunately those homes have older layouts.
Do you know if it's easy to get permits for these older homes to add backyard bi-fold doors and open it up for the California room feel?
I think the biggest hurdle would be HOA approval. Permits would be easy to get. If I wanted everything a newer home has (CA room, large sliding glass doors, bathroom, kitchen, layout, no steps leading to living room, nice exterior, no ugly fireplaces, etc) I would just get a newer home.
I'm torn on the 4 car garage but it's not really a 4-car wide garage. QH has 3-car L garages.
This floorplan is awesome:
Checking their site plans today, it seems Capri has closed on quite a few of the irongate homes facing lake forest drive, although the ones w no view (other side of street) still haven't moved. Given that they were showing available for almost forever , does anyone know if / how aggressive incentivizing was done to clear the inventory ?
Marbella homes still showing not much incentives . Given how much the high end market has slowed to a crawl, wondering what is TB thinking here . At this rate this community will probably not see full build out for a good 2-3 years from now , a lot of time to keep watching construction crews and the associated noise and pollution for those who have already moved in . Any thoughts ?
Latest Capri price sheet. The inner side of Iron Gate continues to struggle. They're also some of the smallest lots in the neighborhood. Otherwise, the outer side is doing surprisingly well considering they face Lake Forest Dr. which can get somewhat noisy. They do have the benefit of being much bigger lots and have a lower but unobstructed view.
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irvinehomeowner
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A view lot in Quail Hill (those on single loaded streets higher up) has more value to me than any HC home.
You have closer access to the elem and shopping and as previous posters have said, you don't have to worry about landscaping or window coverings... and a few of them have 3-car L garages.
You have closer access to the elem and shopping and as previous posters have said, you don't have to worry about landscaping or window coverings... and a few of them have 3-car L garages.
irvinehomeowner said:
Just curious, but how are the floor plans in Quail Hill homes that are similar in size to Hidden Canyon homes or something over 3,500 sqft? I have never been to homes in Quail Hill. Are they chopped up like Turtle Ridge homes?? Some people prefer the new home that they can customize, open floor plan and bragging rights behind the gates.
Goriot said:
There are some QH homes that are around 4000 sqft. Some also have pretty good views. But, the layout of these homes definitely feel dated and chopped up. They were built around the same time as the Turtle Ridge homes. The new open floor plan at HC is far superior.
fortune11 said:
If there's an older home that's cheap per sqft for the location then you can always remodel. $100k turns most houses into something livable. Only downside is that you usually need cash. I'd rather pay 100k over 30 years at 3.5%.
A wall seperating the kitchen and living room you can usually get that taken down no problem. Worse case is that a support beam needs to be put in.
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I too love the open floor plan and modern layouts in the newly built homes that are closer to Orchard Hills, but would like to be more centrally located towards 405 Jamboree/Culver; unfortunately those homes have older layouts.
Do you know if it's easy to get permits for these older homes to add backyard bi-fold doors and open it up for the California room feel?
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jcm91ca said:
I think the biggest hurdle would be HOA approval. Permits would be easy to get. If I wanted everything a newer home has (CA room, large sliding glass doors, bathroom, kitchen, layout, no steps leading to living room, nice exterior, no ugly fireplaces, etc) I would just get a newer home.
irvinehomeowner
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View lot over gate any day of the week.lovingit said:
I'm torn on the 4 car garage but it's not really a 4-car wide garage. QH has 3-car L garages.
This floorplan is awesome:
eatthis said:
Checking their site plans today, it seems Capri has closed on quite a few of the irongate homes facing lake forest drive, although the ones w no view (other side of street) still haven't moved. Given that they were showing available for almost forever , does anyone know if / how aggressive incentivizing was done to clear the inventory ?
Marbella homes still showing not much incentives . Given how much the high end market has slowed to a crawl, wondering what is TB thinking here . At this rate this community will probably not see full build out for a good 2-3 years from now , a lot of time to keep watching construction crews and the associated noise and pollution for those who have already moved in . Any thoughts ?
Capri is definitely aggressive in closing out their sales by the end of this year. However, Marbella is clearly looking into 2017 & possibly 2018.
My question would be to the ones who moved in to Hidden Canyon recently to possibly share the breakdown of the demographics. Is it similer to the rest of Irvine having a very high concentration of FCB or is it more of a balanced suburban American neighborhood like Newport Coast?
My question would be to the ones who moved in to Hidden Canyon recently to possibly share the breakdown of the demographics. Is it similer to the rest of Irvine having a very high concentration of FCB or is it more of a balanced suburban American neighborhood like Newport Coast?
Has anyone noticed the influx of Vicara homes hitting the market in Quail Hill recently? These homes used to be hard to come by. Only ten of them have been on the market/sold in the past three years. Eight of these houses are currently on the market. Do you think these are Hidden Canyon transplants? Or people looking to make a buck after seeing that they can sell with prices similar to HC?
Regarding the attachment: The houses marked green are currently on the market for sale, and the houses marked blue are the ones that have been sold in the past three years.
Regarding the attachment: The houses marked green are currently on the market for sale, and the houses marked blue are the ones that have been sold in the past three years.
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irvinehomeowner
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I think it's people cashing in.
It's been over 10 years for some of these owners and they sold for the upper mid to upper $1ms then so if you sell for $2m to $3m, that's a good profit.
I like 512 Luminous.
27 Momento with one side open space is also a good location.
Since these already have landscaping, flooring, etc, these are better buys than HC. You won't get those kind of views down by the "coastal canyon".
It's been over 10 years for some of these owners and they sold for the upper mid to upper $1ms then so if you sell for $2m to $3m, that's a good profit.
I like 512 Luminous.
27 Momento with one side open space is also a good location.
Since these already have landscaping, flooring, etc, these are better buys than HC. You won't get those kind of views down by the "coastal canyon".