Thank you for your response, great pictures by the way. I did not mean to offend you. I asked that question in the context of your comment on other Irvine communities:
"Everything that I preached here about good design were rejected in the past because of the bottom line $$$$$$ and density. I appreciate the culture of Five Points in implementing innovations. No horrible gridded streets, do curve streets for good chi and good Feng shui planning, diversity of architectural styles, avoid beige stucco boxes, avoid predictable 1/2 and 1/4 acre pocket parks, avoid forbidden city walls, avoid garages dominate houses, give bigger lots to the consumers, widen the width of motorcourts, bigger side yards between homes, no rental transient apartments to eliminate red towels, no marching trees at 25' on center, no military guard towers, no prison style entry portals, no big stupid signs to create caste system between neighborhoods, no tagging step child with "east" to existing neighborhoods, no square land plan that echo farm plots, no more visiting relatives parking on the wrong driveway, no more straight entry road that T into a park or wall. No more stupid pepper, olive or palm trees. There are other 30,000 trees we can pick from.
Stop living like a commune here in America. It is ok to leave Mao behind. It's ok to be different, it's ok to stand out, it's ok to take away prison style walls and sniper towers, it's ok to express yourself in selecting architecture different from your relatives."
Again, Thanks for your posts. They are very informative.