Downtown Huntington Beach Real Estate Market??

NEW -> Contingent Buyer Assistance Program
[quote author="Trooper" date=1214470183]justbrowsing....there were a lot of <a href="http://www.adl.org/racist_skinheads/states/california.asp">Skinheads</a></blockquote>


So if:

Bad Recession -> Degentrification -> Don't take the wife and kid to HB



Thanks for the heads up. So far I only have a general sense of where I shouldn't (or someday shouldn't) take the family.
 
Downtown HB was pretty much the same in the mid 90's as it is now.



Don't let the gay guy put you off, it's fine to take your family downtown. I'm sure your not going to be there with your family after 8pm when the bars start hopping. We don"t have a lot of skinheads.



Now HB in the 70's was a different story. We used to have a famous music venue, can't recall the name, I thinking "coach house" offhand and hookers used to prowl the street at night but it's been cleaned up long ago.
 
<em>"Don?t let the gay guy put you off"</em>



You know what they say Alan, the most vocal "homophobes" are usually those with gay tendencies themselves.



P.S. I'm a girl dragon.
 
just do a Google search for "Huntington Beach" skinhead.....and investigate for yourself browsing.



<a href="http://colparker.blogspot.com/2005_02_01_archive.html">This one caught my eye</a>





<em>Sunday, February 20, 2005

10 Things I Hate About HB



1. Skinheads. I don't know when or how it happened, but at some point, long ago, HB became a haven for skinheads, racists, and white supremacists. Back in the 80's it became enough of a problem that the Huntington Beach Police Department created an Anti-Skinhead Task Force. In the past few years, especially as the housing prices have gone through the roof and things have gone "upmarket", the Skinheads have become less and less prominent. But they ain't gone. Just last week I took my son to Lake Park over off Main St...a weekday congregation point for toddlers and stay-at-home-moms. There, my son played with another 2 year-old boy, whose father sat nearby. I'd seen him before - skinny guy with a buzz (so what? I've got a buzz, too). But this time he had on a wife-beater tee and, in addition to a tapestry of typical tattoos covering his arms and shoulders, was displaying a lovely softball sized Swastika on his arm. And as if that wasn't bad enough, my son, who's very fair and very blonde, ran past him. The guy's girlfriend, who was sitting next to him, remarked, "Boy, they don't get any blonder than that." He replied, "That's pure Norwegian gold, baby."

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[quote author="Trooper" date=1214473424]just do a Google search for "Huntington Beach" skinhead.....and investigate for yourself browsing.



<a href="http://colparker.blogspot.com/2005_02_01_archive.html">This one caught my eye</a>





<em>Sunday, February 20, 2005

10 Things I Hate About HB



1. Skinheads. I don't know when or how it happened, but at some point, long ago, HB became a haven for skinheads, racists, and white supremacists. Back in the 80's it became enough of a problem that the Huntington Beach Police Department created an Anti-Skinhead Task Force. In the past few years, especially as the housing prices have gone through the roof and things have gone "upmarket", the Skinheads have become less and less prominent. But they ain't gone. Just last week I took my son to Lake Park over off Main St...a weekday congregation point for toddlers and stay-at-home-moms. There, my son played with another 2 year-old boy, whose father sat nearby. I'd seen him before - skinny guy with a buzz (so what? I've got a buzz, too). But this time he had on a wife-beater tee and, in addition to a tapestry of typical tattoos covering his arms and shoulders, was displaying a lovely softball sized Swastika on his arm. And as if that wasn't bad enough, my son, who's very fair and very blonde, ran past him. The guy's girlfriend, who was sitting next to him, remarked, "Boy, they don't get any blonder than that." He replied, "That's pure Norwegian gold, baby."

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Already on it.



<a href="http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/no-class/25758/">Here is a sampler </a> of somewhat recent hate crimes throughout OC, even including (gasp) Irvine.



?In Costa Mesa, on July 7, self-proclaimed Huntington Beach skinhead Ronald Lee Bray, 24, allegedly yelled racial slurs, spit on and then pushed a wheelchair-bound black man into a light pole before performing a pro-Hitler salute.



?Michael Ryan Danilewicz and Brian Steven Resplock, both 21, allegedly drove their Mercedes by a Mexican-American juvenile who was at an Irvine bus stop, yelled racial slurs, stopped and then assaulted the boy, telling him to get out of their neighborhood.



I'm beginning to understand why there are gated communities around here.
 
Quite being such a loud troll...



I've been in HB for 18 years and I love it. Wouldn't trade it for Irvine for all the money in world. Never had any problems. Love to eat breakfast downtown on the weekends. The pier is great for walking, the bike path is awesome and the local movie theater at the Pier is never crowded like Bella Tera.



The only problem with HB I've had is bicycle thefts. If you have a bicycle, keep it locked up inside your unit, I've had two (mountain & tandem) stolen out of our supposedly secure underground garage. Never had any car break-ins.
 
I like HB too and I lived there and hung out there over the last 15 years. However, the pier is a prime gentrification zone. It is one of the largest urban renewal projects in the county with only the military base renewal efforts being larger.



You may love it there, but it was known as the surf ghetto. Probably the major question is how much of the gentrification is real gentrification and how much was easy money facade? The prior neglect was the result of overzealous RE development. Hopefully history doesn't repeat itself...





Troop, didn't NLR get there start in one of California's Reform Schools up in the central valley?
 
No Such, I stand corrected.



<em>Although the Nazi Low Riders originated in the California prison system and still derive much of their power from inside corrections facilities, the group has also become a vicious street gang in several areas in California.



The Nazi Low Riders first gained recognition as a street gang in Costa Mesa in the early 1990s. Since then, NLR street units have sprung up in other cities and areas throughout Southern California. More recently, NLR members, who are mostly in their teens and early 20s, have begun moving into Central and Northern California and are slowly traveling east when they are released on parole. Today, NLR is probably the fastest-growing white gang in California, and the group is already spilling beyond state lines. </em>
 
[quote author="justbrowsing" date=1214471760][quote author="Trooper" date=1214470183]justbrowsing....there were a lot of <a href="http://www.adl.org/racist_skinheads/states/california.asp">Skinheads</a></blockquote>


So if:

Bad Recession -> Degentrification -> Don't take the wife and kid to HB



Thanks for the heads up. So far I only have a general sense of where I shouldn't (or someday shouldn't) take the family.</blockquote>




Well, I live here, so I guess I'll set you straight (hi troop!).



Downtown HB is pretty cleaned up over the past decade. Lots and lots of 1M+ homes have displaced much of the rundown apartments that used to house the more 'rowdy' faction. At this point, even if the economy tanks, Downtown HB is going to remain a safe place to take your family. (the parts of HB closer to the 405, however...)
 
<em>Well, I live here, so I guess I?ll set you straight (hi troop!)</em>



LOL ! And for the record, I was originally responding to browsing's question about what HB was like IN THE MID 90's. Then Alan had to get all huffy. I think it's a very nice town now. Then, it had a bad rap....due to aforementioned group.
 
Freedom, you're probably right, the negative element has been displaced closer the 405 and up Bolsa Chica. I think about that for a lot of neighborhoods, whether EastSide, FV, HB, etc, how much of the improvements we've seen since the mid-90s will stick versus how many will blow away in the foreclosure storms.
 
Ah yes, Public Enemy Number 1. <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/05/national/main2535231.shtml?source=mostpop_story">2007 article</a>



<em>"Two months ago, police agencies in Orange County arrested 67 suspected members after learning about the hit list against officers in Anaheim, Buena Park and Costa Mesa. Those arrested in the raid were charged with conspiracy to commit murder, possession of illegal weapons and identity theft, among other things".</em>



But don't tell alan, he's having his breakfast.
 
Just like almost any other town, HB has its good parts and its bad parts. I grew it in HB by Edison HS for 15 years and it was a great place to live with very little crime, including the skinheads. I would hear stories of hate crimes by skinheads around Main St and the downtown area though.
 
There still is some 'skinhead activity' around downtown.



Last year, I was working in the garage, and a guy came up to me bleeding from a head wound. Fortunately, I had a new pack of shop towels to staunch the flow so I could make a prelim assessment and talk with him. Turns out he was a 'transient' who had been drinking with some of the 'rough youth' who live a few blocks over.



I will say that when I called 911 for the ambulance, both they, a fire truck, and three cops showed up within 4 minutes. And the cops went quickly to 'talk' with the men (don't know the outcome). And even more amazingly, the fire guys completely cleaned up the blood and detrius, and decontaminated the whole area. Amazing service, really.
 
Piece of advise for newcomers to HB. Buy the annual beach parking pass.



Even if you don't surf, its still great to have and if you want to visit the new Resort, you can park in the beach lot and walk over on the bridge over PCH instead of paying for parking.
 
Annual parking passes are available for designated downtown and beach locations. The annual passes can be purchased at Lifeguard Headquarters and City Hall. Call (714) 536-5286 for additional information.



Pass fees: Regular parking pass (also valid at Main Promenade Parking Structure)

January through March $125

April through June $100

July through September $ 75

October through December $25

Senior parking pass (62+) 40% discount off price
 
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