Couple found dead in Irvine apartment parking structure

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From my IHB buddy... a link to someone posting the police scanner chatter on their forum:

http://forums.rimoftheworld.net/showthread.php?12312-Car-Jacking-Big-Bear&p=238350#post238350

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You guys are my eyes back there. If you see anything catching fire that shouldn't, let me know. Otherwise let it go.

Getting information that there is a propane tank at the rear of the residence near a garage. Be aware, if it goes it will be about a 50 yard debris field.

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There are 5 cabins surrounding the main cabin he was in. He could be hiding in one of those. They may let the fire die down on its own. No plans to call the fire engine over.
 
They're fairly sure he has no hostages because he did not use a human shield when trying to flee out the back.
 
I took a break to cook dinner. Did I miss anything?

They are saying the fire engine is going in. That means the scene is secure. (They say they would not risk the firefighters being shot at.)

Antonio Villaraigosa is speaking to the media now...
 
Coverage is switching over to The State of the Union address.

My personal 2 cents only: I think the guy is toast. Body inside the fire.
 
world chaos said:
the guys an idiot...

lets look at the bigger picture... his main goal is that he wants to clear his name and have the LAPD go through a paradigm shift on excessive brutality and flagrant racism...

+1 for him on clearing his name since they recently announced they are taking another look into his dismissal case
-1 for excessive brutality since the majority of the populace are more concerned with him getting caught then the victims of trigger happy torrance police shooting old ladies
-1 again for excessive brutality when populace dont mind trigger happy torrance police AGAIN, this time they shot at a WHITE guy and ppl are still ok with it haha
-1 on racism in the LAPD... all these series of events just condones even more racial profiling

so in essence, dorner took one step forward and 3 huge ass steps backwards...
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I think you're wrong.  The two police shootings are just starting to pick up speed. Along with SWAT swarming Lowes.  A sudden million dollar reward.  Burning the cabin down is now looking like Waco.

Plus the 1000 cop manhunt.

The general public is wondering WTH.  Why the double standard.  Why the shoot to kill at will.
 
i hope i am wrong too... but at this current moment, there is no public outcry for any of this... the only complaints are from fringe groups and occasional non-PC jokes about it on FB...


nosuchreality said:
world chaos said:
the guys an idiot...

lets look at the bigger picture... his main goal is that he wants to clear his name and have the LAPD go through a paradigm shift on excessive brutality and flagrant racism...

+1 for him on clearing his name since they recently announced they are taking another look into his dismissal case
-1 for excessive brutality since the majority of the populace are more concerned with him getting caught then the victims of trigger happy torrance police shooting old ladies
-1 again for excessive brutality when populace dont mind trigger happy torrance police AGAIN, this time they shot at a WHITE guy and ppl are still ok with it haha
-1 on racism in the LAPD... all these series of events just condones even more racial profiling

so in essence, dorner took one step forward and 3 huge ass steps backwards...
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I think you're wrong.  The two police shootings are just starting to pick up speed. Along with SWAT swarming Lowes.  A sudden million dollar reward.  Burning the cabin down is now looking like Waco.

Plus the 1000 cop manhunt.

The general public is wondering WTH.  Why the double standard.  Why the shoot to kill at will.
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the only thing gaining traction is the FB "i support christopher jordan dorner" group with 12k+ likes... stuff like this bothers me greatly... cause regardless of how crappy LAPD is, i dont think i can ever support a crazy guy going around killing innocents...

LAPDs got some bad apples... but there are probably better ways to whistle blow then to pull something like this...
 
SoCal said:
Coverage is switching over to The State of the Union address.

My personal 2 cents only: I think the guy is toast. Body inside the fire.
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+1 probably extra crispy by now. But maybe that is his plan--make us think he took his own life and sneak away. We'll have to wait until they can confirm they found a body and then a few more weeks for DNA/dental confirmation.
 
yup exactly, lap dog for sure... so far ive just read the ladies are being compenstated with a new truck... no followup by the mainstream media on whether the ladies or the white guy are going to sue or anything beyond compensation by "donors"... its real sad man

anyhow, LAPD's evils aside, personally im just happy dorners dead and nobody has to get hurt anymore whether because of dorner or because of police's mistaken identity... but i can only hope (perhaps naively) that this doesnt set an example for other future public menaces to use dorner as an example and try to emulate this shit (ie like the school shooting emulators)

nosuchreality said:
Yes, sadly, the main stream media as been a lap dog for LAPD on this since the beginning.
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No body has been found or pulled out of the cabin at this time according to the LAPD press conference taking place right now (Cmdr. Smith). The officer says the cabin is still too hot and has not been entered. The reports out there that a body has been found and/or removed are not true, he says.
 
Anyway, about what I just wrote above -- LAPD keeps insisting this is a San Berdoo issue. So, why then, do they hold a press conference instead of S.B. Let's hear it from those guys.
 
So is he dead or not? My FB stream is all "dead" "not dead" "dead" "not confirmed".
Decided to check with the reliable source ;-) Away from TV and radio at this moment..
 
Eh... different places reporting different things.

Some say body not retrieved because too hot... others say charred body removed... I guess we'll know by tomorrow.
 
world chaos said:
the only thing gaining traction is the FB "i support christopher jordan dorner" group with 12k+ likes... stuff like this bothers me greatly... cause regardless of how crappy LAPD is, i dont think i can ever support a crazy guy going around killing innocents...

LAPDs got some bad apples... but there are probably better ways to whistle blow then to pull something like this...
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Yes, they're very misguided and frankly, someone needs to have a talk with them.  At the heart of this issue, we must remember is a person, so imbittered, that they (allegedly) killed a person's daughter and her finance because of what the father wasn't able to do, or as perceived by Dorner as intentionally misrepresenting the case.

As for blowing the whistle, that was part of his complaint.  With the Peace Officer Bill of Rights, essentially the only people that investigate the police are the police. 

The first question will hopefully be answered quickly, is it Dorner that is dead in the cabin.  If so, manhunt story over.  Then the media needs to move on to the big five questions about the police in this case.

1. Why'd they shoot up the torrance neighborhood and two ladies in a bright blue tacoma.  A Tacoma and Titan don't look similar.
2. Why'd they shoot up the ridgeline after ramming it? 
Now that you've answered one and two, let's talk about what that means about the way the police operate and their attitude towards the general public.
3. Why did Dorner warrant a few hundred or thousand plus manhunt?  Every other violent crime victim should be outraged, IMHO, at the double standard.
4. Why a million dollar reward in the first days?  That seems completely abnormal too.
5. Did a sniper kill him or did he kill himself.  Too much story massaging going on in the police versions.

Most police are great people. They do a great job.  It's time for them to stop protecting the bad apples. It's also time for those that have become two jaded to get out of the job.


 
The funeral for the fallen officer is just beginning right now. He was only 34. Has a 10 year old son and 4 year old daughter. So sad. The wife is being escorted in with the kids. She's bawling her eyes out.  :(
 
Oh, God. It's a tear-jerker. The speaker (some kind of police captain) is talking directly to his kids.  :'( I don't even know how the wife can sit up. You'd have to put me in a straight jacket.
 
nosuchreality said:
3. Why did Dorner warrant a few hundred or thousand plus manhunt?  Every other violent crime victim should be outraged, IMHO, at the double standard.
4. Why a million dollar reward in the first days?  That seems completely abnormal too.
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From what I remember, if there is a solid lead on a suspect and he/she in turn commits more violence, the manhunt becomes massive... regardless of who the victims are. Although, I would tend to agree that because there was an LAPD connection it got more press.

Have there been violent crimes in the past where the suspect was identified, he/she committed more violence and there was no manhunt?
 
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