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eyephone said:
CalBears96 said:
eyephone said:
Stfu mety.  You said you got the vaccine and you wear a mask. Now you saying not to get the vaccine.

It was a sarcastic question to morekaos.

Well, if you add things up from the start. You would also scratch your head. For example, Mety has questioned the vaccine, but he says he got the vaccine. He has made fun of masks, but he has said he wears a mask. He down played covid from the start and until now.

eyephone keeps spreading fake news on certain people including me. But it?s ok. If that gives you peace, keep on doing that. I tell you it?s a fake peace though just so you know even though you probably won?t take my advice. Just don?t quote biblical verses since you always do so in wrong contexts. Don?t give Christians a bad name. I know you?re not even a Christ believer.
 
Mety said:
eyephone said:
CalBears96 said:
eyephone said:
Stfu mety.  You said you got the vaccine and you wear a mask. Now you saying not to get the vaccine.

It was a sarcastic question to morekaos.

Well, if you add things up from the start. You would also scratch your head. For example, Mety has questioned the vaccine, but he says he got the vaccine. He has made fun of masks, but he has said he wears a mask. He down played covid from the start and until now.

eyephone keeps spreading fake news on certain people including me. But it?s ok. If that gives you peace, keep on doing that. I tell you it?s a fake peace though just so you know even though you probably won?t take my advice. Just don?t quote biblical verses since you always do so in wrong contexts. Don?t give Christians a bad name. I know you?re not even a Christ believer.

Fake news? You said you got the vaccine and wore a mask. Also, its not hard to see if a person clicks the first page of this thread. They will see your posts.

I will do what I do. I thought you woke.
 
eyephone said:
You aint woke. Anybody can say the catch phrases about God. But they dont understand or comprehend the versus.

That's exactly what you do. You throw catchy verses to back what you believe while not even believing in the Bible.

Just to be clear, I don't throw catchy stuff. When I quote bible verses it's so that you (not just you, eyephone but everyone) realize you don't do or can't do anything right out of your own will. That would lead you to repent and ask God for forgiveness of your life and accept Jesus as your LORD. Your LORD means your owner, your king, your everything so that you keep on reading the Bible to know your owner/king more and realize how sinful you are at heart. If you don't get what I'm saying here, you've been missing the whole point when I was talking about God.

As for COVID-19 and vaccines and etc. you can do your own research and believe whatever you want to believe. I hope you stay safe.

 
Mety said:
eyephone said:
You aint woke. Anybody can say the catch phrases about God. But they dont understand or comprehend the versus.

That's exactly what you do. You throw catchy verses to back what you believe while not even believing in the Bible.

Just to be clear, I don't throw catchy stuff. When I quote bible verses it's so that you (not just you, eyephone but everyone) realize you don't do or can't do anything right out of your own will. That would lead you to repent and ask God for forgiveness of your life and accept Jesus as your LORD. Your LORD means your owner, your king, your everything so that you keep on reading the Bible to know your owner/king more and realize how sinful you are at heart. If you don't get what I'm saying here, you've been missing the whole point when I was talking about God.

As for COVID-19 and vaccines and etc. you can do your own research and believe whatever you want to believe. I hope you stay safe.

But why are you like this? You say you got vaccine and then you talk shit. Sheesh
All I have to say, would Jesus and the disciples help people or would they spread false lies that that would potentially kill a person. I know the answer is they would help people.
 
eyephone said:
Mety said:
eyephone said:
You aint woke. Anybody can say the catch phrases about God. But they dont understand or comprehend the versus.

That's exactly what you do. You throw catchy verses to back what you believe while not even believing in the Bible.

Just to be clear, I don't throw catchy stuff. When I quote bible verses it's so that you (not just you, eyephone but everyone) realize you don't do or can't do anything right out of your own will. That would lead you to repent and ask God for forgiveness of your life and accept Jesus as your LORD. Your LORD means your owner, your king, your everything so that you keep on reading the Bible to know your owner/king more and realize how sinful you are at heart. If you don't get what I'm saying here, you've been missing the whole point when I was talking about God.

As for COVID-19 and vaccines and etc. you can do your own research and believe whatever you want to believe. I hope you stay safe.

But why are you like this? You say you got vaccine and then you talk shit. Sheesh
All I have to say, would Jesus and the disciples help people or would they spread false lies that that would potentially kill a person. I know the answer is they would help people.

Your intention is to help others? Or is it to prove you're so right? Think deeply and answer wisely.

BTW, if you really want to know Jesus or what He would have done, I'll let you know.

Another BTW, did I ever say bad things about vaccines? Fake news...
 
Expressed in percentages, 76% of Vermont Covid-19 fatalities were breakthrough cases. As of Tuesday, 88 percent of all eligible Vermonters (age 12 and over) had been vaccinated with at least one shot.

oops, 88 percent counting for 76%,  12% counting for 24%.


morekaos said:
Mety said:
This is what hard evidence looks like to me. Can you do the same to your argument of more vaxed areas are having less deaths? Or if that's too hard, can you do the comparison of vaxed vs. unvaxed death rates out of covid cases?

Here is some data Mety...

SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England

The numbers show vaccinated people contracted and died of the so-called ?Delta? variant of Coronavirus at a far greater rate than unvaccinated people between February 1, 2021 and September 12, 2021.
During the time period in question, unvaccinated people reportedly accounted for 257,357 Delta cases out of 593,572 total Delta cases (approximately 43 percent), and 722 out of 2,542 Delta deaths (approximately 28 percent) ?within 28 days of positive specimen date.? What does that mean? It means that the vast majority of Delta deaths in England during this period occurred among vaccinated people, NOT unvaccinated people.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018547/Technical_Briefing_23_21_09_16.pdf

76% of September Covid-19 deaths are vax breakthroughs

Just eight of the 33 Vermonters who died of  Covid-19 in September were unvaccinated, the Vermont Department of Heath said Wednesday.

Health Department spokesperson Ben Truman said most of the vaccine  ?breakthrough? Covid-19 fatalities were elderly. Because they were among the first vaccinated, Vermont?s elderly ?have had more time to potentially become a vaccine breakthrough case,? he said.

Expressed in percentages, 76% of Vermont Covid-19 fatalities were breakthrough cases. As of Tuesday, 88 percent of all eligible Vermonters (age 12 and over) had been vaccinated with at least one shot.

https://vermontdailychronicle.com/2021/09/30/76-of-september-covid-19-deaths-are-vaxxed-breakthroughs/
 
Soylent Green Is People said:
The Vermont stats interest me because of how low the population is there -  Roughly 640,000 people live in the State.

In September, .000051 percent of the population died from Covid-19. (33 persons)

In March, .000041 percent of the population died from an Opioid overdose (26 persons)https://www.healthvermont.gov/sites...ts/pdf/ADAPMonthlyOpioidRelatedFatalities.pdf

Yet did Vermont shut everything down in March due to the Opioid Pandemic? Were pharmacists or the doctors who prescribe these pills fired for refusing to fill prescriptions?

I'm pro-choice on vaccination and masking. I'm anti-authoritarian for everything else - the path this pandemic response has been heading down. Stats and science contradict what's being forced on families right now. It is not unreasonable that people are considering their own methods of rebelling against it. IMHO
I don't really understand your question. The reason for the low % of the Vermont population dying from COVID-19 is that 88% of the eligible people are fully vaccinated. You would see more deaths if everyone is pro-choice on vaccination and masking.
 
morekaos said:
irvinehomeowner said:
It?s ironic how much morekaos hates on Cali yet we are the 4th safest Covid state list? Texas is 39.

I would post a link but I want Mety to Google it. :)

?This week?like the weather, things will change. Besides I don?t care, I?ve already had it and according the the isrealis I?m 27 times more protected by natural immunity than everyone else so whatever place Cali wants to be at this week is of little concern to me.  What I do care about is the $6.00 gas I saw the other day? in that respect Cali is surely number one!!

...like I said...this week..who knows what the tide will bring?...

Anyone Notice Where COVID Rates Are Climbing These Days? (Hint: Not In Texas or Florida)


The Johns Hopkins COVID tracker displays each state in shades of either green or red, with green indicating a downward trend and red an upswing. The darker the shade the bigger the change in either direction.

Well, take a look at the current display, shown above. The 13 states that are showing increases right now are California, Washington, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Nebraska, Maine, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island. Except for a few, these are reliably Democratic states.

There?s something else worth noting. Nine of these 13 states have vaccination rates higher ? and in some cases, much higher ? than the national average of 56%.

https://issuesinsights.com/2021/10/08/anyone-notice-where-covid-rates-are-climbing-these-days-hint-not-in-texas-or-florida/
https://youtu.be/PKLVAeI7MU8
 
I know several people that have had "breakthrough" infections after receiving the vaccination, and it was no walk in the park.  One of them had a 104 degree fever and should have been hospitalized, but wasn't.  On the other hand, I don't know of anybody that has contracted covid after already having it once before.  Does anybody else have anecdotes of people they know catching covid for a second time?
 
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Liar Loan said:
I know several people that have had "breakthrough" infections after receiving the vaccination, and it was no walk in the park.  One of them had a 104 degree fever and should have been hospitalized, but wasn't.  On the other hand, I don't know of anybody that has contracted covid after already having it once before.  Does anybody else have anecdotes of people they know catching covid for a second time?

With the booster just getting recently authorized, frankly, we?re about three months behind the power curve on the over 65 crowd with delta.

The vaccination isn?t a panacea, it?s a bandaid. People are still dying with the vaccination, it is completely obvious from the various State?s data that the vaccinated fair much better as a group than the unvaccinated.  And, yes , they still die.

That is another reason why people that are not getting vaccinated and are not supporting safety protocol are a danger to our country. 

It is truly sad, if we all do a little small thing, we can get back to normal.  The crowd that wants to fight about it, will saddle us with an extra 300,000 dead a year and on going disruptions to schools, events and everything else.
 
Guardian News:

Republican governor says ?time to start blaming unvaccinated? for rise in cases

The Republican governor of Alabama has said it is ?time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks? for rising cases of Covid-19, amid concern that months of misinformation over the need and efficacy of vaccines is fueling a resurgence of coronavirus infections in several states.

More than 600,000 people in the US have died so far due to the Covid-19 pandemic, the worst death toll in the world, and Republican strategists have warned that the party may be blamed by its voters if this total keeps climbing with further Covid outbreaks.

?I think they?ve finally realized that if their people aren?t vaccinated, they?re going to get sick, and if their people aren?t vaccinated, they?re going to get blamed for Covid outbreaks in the future,? said the GOP pollster Frank Luntz.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/23/kay-ivey-republican-blame-unvaccinated-covid-cases
 
Never what you really expect...is it?...Squirrel!!...and I doubt there are many republicans in those groups.

Are vaccine-hesitant conservatives REALLY behind the Delta surge? Analysis reveals it isn't just Republicans and red state residents responsible for the summer increase in cases - as the mainstream media would have you believe
Several mainstream media outlets have recently said unvaccinated conservatives were responsible for the Delta Covid surge over the summer
Republicans have been less likely to get vaccinated at 56% compared 92% of Democrats, and are more likely to say they never plan to get shots
But lagging African American vaccination rates have also been to blame for the fourth wave of the pandemic
CDC data show 33% of black Americans are fully vaccinated compared to 40.4% of whites
As of last week, 57% of those who initiated vaccination in the last 14 days were white and just 15% were African American


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10085309/Are-conservatives-REALLY-Delta-surge-Analysis-reveals-isnt-just-Republicans.html
 
zovall said:
The LA Times has some useful metrics for Orange County:https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/orange-county/

I did not see the numbers broken out by political party but there is a chart showing demographics by race (attached).

This has nothing to do with covid. But if you want to know the mindset of OC voters. If you want to see actual voter results by political party. You can look at the California governor recall. Last time I checked 52% in OC voted no on the recent California governor recall in a way has to do the handling of covid versus other states.
 
eyephone said:
zovall said:
The LA Times has some useful metrics for Orange County:https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/orange-county/

I did not see the numbers broken out by political party but there is a chart showing demographics by race (attached).

This has nothing to do with covid. But if you want to know the mindset of OC voters. If you want to see actual voter results by political party. You can look at the California governor recall. Last time I checked 52% in OC voted no on the recent California governor recall in a way has to do the handling of covid versus other states.

Um........... you know that a lot of republicans have left the state right? Democrats too of course but a lot of conservatives have gotten fed up with the political climate here. To make up for those people you get takers..... give me freebies. They vote dem.
 
Ready2Downsize said:
eyephone said:
zovall said:
The LA Times has some useful metrics for Orange County:https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/orange-county/

I did not see the numbers broken out by political party but there is a chart showing demographics by race (attached).

This has nothing to do with covid. But if you want to know the mindset of OC voters. If you want to see actual voter results by political party. You can look at the California governor recall. Last time I checked 52% in OC voted no on the recent California governor recall in a way has to do the handling of covid versus other states.

Um........... you know that a lot of republicans have left the state right? Democrats too of course but a lot of conservatives have gotten fed up with the political climate here. To make up for those people you get takers..... give me freebies. They vote dem.

The majority of OC is republicans, but they still voted no.
 
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