coronavirus

[usctrojancpa]

So much damn red tape trying to get the monoclonal anitbody treatment done for free.  The clinics said that they needed something from my dad's primary doctor.  When my dad talked to his primary doctor on the phone he said that it doesn't sound like his symptoms are very serious so he prescribed him zpac (an anti-viral medication).  Thankfully all of the symptoms are slowly going away....no cough, no more fatigue, no more slight fever and his sense of smell and taste have come back today. 

 

[irvinehomeowner]

It?s ironic how much morekaos hates on Cali yet we are the 4th safest Covid state list? Texas is 39.

I would post a link but I want Mety to Google it.

 

[iacrenter]

USC,

Glad your dad is doing better. The Z-pak (aka Azithromycin) is an antibiotic and will only be effective against bacteria.

I'm surprised his doc didn't offer him monoclonal antibodies. Unless there is a shortage, it should have been discussed as a treatment option for mild to moderate COVID infection.

Here is a link to the Emergency Use Authorization from the FDA. It details the criteria for getting the medication:
https://www.regeneron.com/downloads/treatment-covid19-eua-fact-sheet-for-hcp.pdf

 

[morekaos]

It?s ironic how much morekaos hates on Cali yet we are the 4th safest Covid state list? Texas is 39.

I would post a link but I want Mety to Google it.

?This week?like the weather, things will change. Besides I don?t care, I?ve already had it and according the the isrealis I?m 27 times more protected by natural immunity than everyone else so whatever place Cali wants to be at this week is of little concern to me.  What I do care about is the $6.00 gas I saw the other day? in that respect Cali is surely number one!!

 

[usctrojancpa]

USC,

Glad your dad is doing better. The Z-pak (aka Azithromycin) is an antibiotic and will only be effective against bacteria.

I'm surprised his doc didn't offer him monoclonal antibodies. Unless there is a shortage, it should have been discussed as a treatment option for mild to moderate COVID infection.

Here is a link to the Emergency Use Authorization from the FDA. It details the criteria for getting the medication:
https://www.regeneron.com/downloads/treatment-covid19-eua-fact-sheet-for-hcp.pdf

Yeah, it was very annoying dealing with all the red tape.  They told my dad can pay for the monoclonal antibodies out-of-pocket without the doctor's green light but they won't tell him wouldn't tell him what that cost would be....so dumb.  Anyhow, most important thing is that he's feeling almost 100% and it seems like the vaccine helped to keep the symptoms very mild despite him being in a very high risk group.

 

[eyephone]

So much damn red tape trying to get the monoclonal anitbody treatment done for free.  The clinics said that they needed something from my dad's primary doctor.  When my dad talked to his primary doctor on the phone he said that it doesn't sound like his symptoms are very serious so he prescribed him zpac (an anti-viral medication).  Thankfully all of the symptoms are slowly going away....no cough, no more fatigue, no more slight fever and his sense of smell and taste have come back today.

Good to hear he is getting better.

 

[eyephone]

USC,

Glad your dad is doing better. The Z-pak (aka Azithromycin) is an antibiotic and will only be effective against bacteria.

I'm surprised his doc didn't offer him monoclonal antibodies. Unless there is a shortage, it should have been discussed as a treatment option for mild to moderate COVID infection.

Here is a link to the Emergency Use Authorization from the FDA. It details the criteria for getting the medication:
https://www.regeneron.com/downloads/treatment-covid19-eua-fact-sheet-for-hcp.pdf

Yeah, it was very annoying dealing with all the red tape.  They told my dad can pay for the monoclonal antibodies out-of-pocket without the doctor's green light but they won't tell him wouldn't tell him what that cost would be....so dumb.  Anyhow, most important thing is that he's feeling almost 100% and it seems like the vaccine helped to keep the symptoms very mild despite him being in a very high risk group.

Navigating through the medical billing/process is kinda confusing at times.

 

[morekaos]

This is what hard evidence looks like to me. Can you do the same to your argument of more vaxed areas are having less deaths? Or if that's too hard, can you do the comparison of vaxed vs. unvaxed death rates out of covid cases?

Here is some data Mety...

SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England

The numbers show vaccinated people contracted and died of the so-called ?Delta? variant of Coronavirus at a far greater rate than unvaccinated people between February 1, 2021 and September 12, 2021.
During the time period in question, unvaccinated people reportedly accounted for 257,357 Delta cases out of 593,572 total Delta cases (approximately 43 percent), and 722 out of 2,542 Delta deaths (approximately 28 percent) ?within 28 days of positive specimen date.? What does that mean? It means that the vast majority of Delta deaths in England during this period occurred among vaccinated people, NOT unvaccinated people.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018547/Technical_Briefing_23_21_09_16.pdf

76% of September Covid-19 deaths are vax breakthroughs

Just eight of the 33 Vermonters who died of  Covid-19 in September were unvaccinated, the Vermont Department of Heath said Wednesday.

Health Department spokesperson Ben Truman said most of the vaccine  ?breakthrough? Covid-19 fatalities were elderly. Because they were among the first vaccinated, Vermont?s elderly ?have had more time to potentially become a vaccine breakthrough case,? he said.

Expressed in percentages, 76% of Vermont Covid-19 fatalities were breakthrough cases. As of Tuesday, 88 percent of all eligible Vermonters (age 12 and over) had been vaccinated with at least one shot.

https://vermontdailychronicle.com/2021/09/30/76-of-september-covid-19-deaths-are-vaxxed-breakthroughs/

 

[eyephone]

Michigan nurse charged with stealing and selling Covid vaccination cards

A nurse at a Veterans Affairs hospital in Michigan has been charged with stealing and selling Covid-19 vaccination cards.

According to court records, Bethann Kierczak, 37, was responsible for administering vaccination doses and had access to immunization records at her hospital in Southgate, Michigan.

In addition to allegedly stealing authentic vaccination cards, Kierczak is charged with theft of vaccine lot numbers necessary to make the cards appear legitimate.

According to the criminal complaint, Kierczak operated her alleged scheme for more than four months, selling the cards for $150 to $200 each via Facebook Messenger.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ed-stealing-selling-michigan-veterans-affairs

 

[Mety]

This is what hard evidence looks like to me. Can you do the same to your argument of more vaxed areas are having less deaths? Or if that's too hard, can you do the comparison of vaxed vs. unvaxed death rates out of covid cases?

Here is some data Mety...

SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England

The numbers show vaccinated people contracted and died of the so-called ?Delta? variant of Coronavirus at a far greater rate than unvaccinated people between February 1, 2021 and September 12, 2021.
During the time period in question, unvaccinated people reportedly accounted for 257,357 Delta cases out of 593,572 total Delta cases (approximately 43 percent), and 722 out of 2,542 Delta deaths (approximately 28 percent) ?within 28 days of positive specimen date.? What does that mean? It means that the vast majority of Delta deaths in England during this period occurred among vaccinated people, NOT unvaccinated people.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018547/Technical_Briefing_23_21_09_16.pdf

76% of September Covid-19 deaths are vax breakthroughs

Just eight of the 33 Vermonters who died of  Covid-19 in September were unvaccinated, the Vermont Department of Heath said Wednesday.

Health Department spokesperson Ben Truman said most of the vaccine  ?breakthrough? Covid-19 fatalities were elderly. Because they were among the first vaccinated, Vermont?s elderly ?have had more time to potentially become a vaccine breakthrough case,? he said.

Expressed in percentages, 76% of Vermont Covid-19 fatalities were breakthrough cases. As of Tuesday, 88 percent of all eligible Vermonters (age 12 and over) had been vaccinated with at least one shot.

https://vermontdailychronicle.com/2021/09/30/76-of-september-covid-19-deaths-are-vaxxed-breakthroughs/

So no vax is better?

 

[eyephone]

USA today: Man accused of killing his pharmacist brother was enraged about COVID-19 vaccine

A Maryland man accused of killing his pharmacist brother and sister-in-law had expressed anger about the administering of COVID-19 vaccinations, according to court documents obtained by multiple media outlets
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...hers-murder-enraged-covid-vaccine/6032465001/

 

[morekaos]

...appears to be the case in England and Vermont.

 

[eyephone]

Stfu mety.  You said you got the vaccine and you wear a mask. Now you saying not to get the vaccine.

 

[eyephone]

Mety

Isiah 9:16
For those who guide this people hane been leading them astray, and those who are guided them are swallowed up.



Keep up with your false news about the vaccine.

 

[Mety]

I'm only asking if that's what morekaos is saying. Why so mad, eye dog? Can't I even ask? Chillax, bruh.

 

[Mety]

Mety

Isiah 9:16
For those who guide this people hane been leading them astray, and those who are guided them are swallowed up.



Keep up with your false news about the vaccine.

Are you Christian now?

 

[CalBears96]

This is what hard evidence looks like to me. Can you do the same to your argument of more vaxed areas are having less deaths? Or if that's too hard, can you do the comparison of vaxed vs. unvaxed death rates out of covid cases?

Here is some data Mety...

SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England

The numbers show vaccinated people contracted and died of the so-called ?Delta? variant of Coronavirus at a far greater rate than unvaccinated people between February 1, 2021 and September 12, 2021.
During the time period in question, unvaccinated people reportedly accounted for 257,357 Delta cases out of 593,572 total Delta cases (approximately 43 percent), and 722 out of 2,542 Delta deaths (approximately 28 percent) ?within 28 days of positive specimen date.? What does that mean? It means that the vast majority of Delta deaths in England during this period occurred among vaccinated people, NOT unvaccinated people.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018547/Technical_Briefing_23_21_09_16.pdf

76% of September Covid-19 deaths are vax breakthroughs

Just eight of the 33 Vermonters who died of  Covid-19 in September were unvaccinated, the Vermont Department of Heath said Wednesday.

Health Department spokesperson Ben Truman said most of the vaccine  ?breakthrough? Covid-19 fatalities were elderly. Because they were among the first vaccinated, Vermont?s elderly ?have had more time to potentially become a vaccine breakthrough case,? he said.

Expressed in percentages, 76% of Vermont Covid-19 fatalities were breakthrough cases. As of Tuesday, 88 percent of all eligible Vermonters (age 12 and over) had been vaccinated with at least one shot.

https://vermontdailychronicle.com/2021/09/30/76-of-september-covid-19-deaths-are-vaxxed-breakthroughs/

So no vax is better?

The article is misleading.

First of all, most of the breakthrough cases were elderly. They were the first ones to get vaccinated, so it's been 6 months since they got vaccinated, which is why a booster shot is needed. And we know that the elderly are higher risk. And the fatalities are caused by Delta variant.

Secondly, 88% of the eligible population are fully vaccinated, so the number of unvaccinated people is a lot fewer, 12%. So 12% of the population is unvaccinated, but 24% of the deaths are the unvaccinated. That's still a higher rate of the unvaccinated dying than the vaccinated.

 

[CalBears96]

Stfu mety.  You said you got the vaccine and you wear a mask. Now you saying not to get the vaccine.

It was a sarcastic question to morekaos.

 

[sgip]

The Vermont stats interest me because of how low the population is there -  Roughly 640,000 people live in the State.

In September, .000051 percent of the population died from Covid-19. (33 persons)

In March, .000041 percent of the population died from an Opioid overdose (26 persons)https://www.healthvermont.gov/sites...ts/pdf/ADAPMonthlyOpioidRelatedFatalities.pdf

Yet did Vermont shut everything down in March due to the Opioid Pandemic? Were pharmacists or the doctors who prescribe these pills fired for refusing to fill prescriptions?

I'm pro-choice on vaccination and masking. I'm anti-authoritarian for everything else - the path this pandemic response has been heading down. Stats and science contradict what's being forced on families right now. It is not unreasonable that people are considering their own methods of rebelling against it. IMHO

 

[eyephone]

Stfu mety.  You said you got the vaccine and you wear a mask. Now you saying not to get the vaccine.

It was a sarcastic question to morekaos.

Well, if you add things up from the start. You would also scratch your head. For example, Mety has questioned the vaccine, but he says he got the vaccine. He has made fun of masks, but he has said he wears a mask. He down played covid from the start and until now.