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We hiked the loop at Peter?s Canyon.  Beautiful weather, good solid breeze, parking lot full and plenty of people passing by.

Even with a good consistent breeze, everybody observing social distancing, roughly 3/4s of the people were wearing masks outside while walking the trails.

Virtually everybody wore masks while in the parking lot or at the pay station for the parking permit.

We wore ours to get the parking ticket and walking out of the crowded parking lot and then removed them.  So many people were wearing them that we crossed paths with, I almost felt like a lazy *ss for not wearing mine.

We also picked up brunch, everybody had masks.  Hit Costco, all masked and no brazenly chip diaperers running around.  Stopped at another store, yep all masks.  Went home, had to hit Ace for home repair stuff, yep, even more masks, then hit Trader Joe?s, you guessed it, masks everywhere.
 
If you have been mask compliant for the last year, the new guidelines will take time to accept. If you were a non believer, then nothing has changed.
 
iacrenter said:
If you have been mask compliant for the last year, the new guidelines will take time to accept. If you were a non believer, then nothing has changed.
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This is why some people say covid will be with us for a long time.
 
eyephone said:
I find this funny. Other countries are begging for the vaccine. Mean while in America, 40% of the population thinks the vaccine is fake.
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Your observation runs right into President Biden's foreign policy theme: proving that democracies are better than autocracies (e.g. China). America has shown great weakness and division during the pandemic. Sadly we've got the solution in our hands and we reject it as fake science. Then add the political and racial divide and we've got a recipe for disaster. There is no common vision or sense of purpose in this country. We are just fighting each other.
 
eyephone said:
I find this funny. Other countries are begging for the vaccine. Mean while in America, 40% of the population thinks the vaccine is fake.
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There is no vaccine against stupid.

And if there were, the stupid wouldn't take it.
 
eyephone said:
iacrenter said:
If you have been mask compliant for the last year, the new guidelines will take time to accept. If you were a non believer, then nothing has changed.
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This is why some people say covid will be with us for a long time.
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I have always said that...like the cold, the Flu and all other corona virus-like illnesses..this is not measles or Polio...it will always be around in one form or another.  We still have H1N1 infections and deaths. Zero tolerance is nonsense.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
morekaos said:
That is not an uptick...that is data noise in a clear downtrend.
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So how is Florida doing right now? Science doesn't care about the color of your font.
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Pretty good...

Here's a breakdown of new coronavirus cases reported to the state since May:

May 1: 3,841
May 2: 3,078
May 3: 3,682
May 4: 4,394
May 5: 4,504
May 6: 4,165
May 7: 3,977
May 8: 3,231
[url]https://www.wtsp.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-numbers/coronavirus-in-florida-report-sunday-may-9-2021/67-a07efb0d-272b-4a5b-af70-39c678f86ca8[/url]
 
https://abc7news.com/pastor-says-he...vid-19-outbreak-infected-74-members/10607581/
Returning to the pulpit after a COVID-19 outbreak infected him, his wife and 72 members of their congregation, the senior pastor of an Oregon church said Sunday that he will not kowtow to pressure to close the doors to the house of worship.

Pastor Scott Erickson of the Peoples Church in Salem, Oregon, began his Mother's Day sermon by addressing the recent surge in COVID-19 cases in his church and throughout the state.


"In the last several days, it is apparent that voices in our community and region want the church of Jesus Christ to be quiet and to be closed," Erickson told those in attendance at the church and others watching a livestream online broadcast. "Not us, not here, not now. That's not what we're doing."
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Low transmission rates, nothing to see here, move along.

 
It?s thing like this that reinforce why people do not trust what comes out of the governments towers.  The mandate that outside transmission would be ?less than 10%? (actually less than 1%) was as misleading as saying shark attacks will be less than 20,000 this year. (Actually around 100). The statement is technically true but incredibly misleading. Fear porn used to manipulate and justify lockdowns and mask mandates.

CDC exaggerated outdoor Covid transmission risk by saying 'less than 10%' of infections happen outside when true risk is below 1%: Critics blast agency for using misleading data to tell Americans to keep masks on

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) estimate of the risk of COVID-19 transmission outdoors is misleading, public health experts warn.

When the federal health agency released new guidelines on masks for fully vaccinated people last month, director Dr Rochelle Walensky stated that 'less than 10 percent' of coronavirus spread was occurring outside.

The number of COVID-19 cases linked to outdoor spread is below one percent, and may even be as low as 0.1 percent.

It comes as New York Times critic David Leonhardt criticized the agency on Tuesday using mischaracterized data
[url]https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2233458942110/cdc-exaggerated-outdoor-covid-transmission-risk-by-saying-less-than-10-of-infections-happen-outside-when-true-risk-is-below-1-critics-blast-agency-for-using-misleading-data-to-tell-americans-to-keep-masks-on[/url]
 
Has to be true...saw it in the New York Times!!

These recommendations would be more grounded in science if anywhere close to 10 percent of Covid transmission were occurring outdoors. But it is not. There is not a single documented Covid infection anywhere in the world from casual outdoor interactions, such as walking past someone on a street or eating at a nearby table.
[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/briefing/outdoor-covid-transmission-cdc-number.html[/url]
 
reductio ad absurdum.

The rare outdoor transmission that has happened almost all seems to have involved crowded places or close conversation.
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Close being defined as under 6 feet.

Most contact tracing data I've seen list way too many, about 1/3rd, with no source data for the infection.

Will you get it casually passing by another dog walker, very very unlikely. Walking past the Starbucks patio, the same. Hanging out for an hour on the dining patio with 100 other guests?

I'm confident its safer than indoors, but the next step from this argument is the zero distancd no precautions argument.  Like the anti-vax crowd pushing the toothless OC School Board for their no vaccine stance and no masks, no distancing requirements in the shools.




 
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