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Source and numbers please.  But like I have said for awhile...people will go about their biz...mask mandates or not...

Over 2,000 maskless people packed into NYC park for free metal concert last weekend after organizers applied for permit calling it 'September 11 Memorial' rally

Instead more than 2,000 people showed up to listen to four metal bands - most of them not wearing masks 
The event violated several COVID restrictions including a ban on outdoor gatherings with more than 200 people
[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9522265/Over-2-000-maskless-people-pack-NYC-park-free-metal-concert.html[/url]
 
...I read charts for a living...please point out the uptrend...
[url]https://www.wtsp.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-numbers/florida-coronavirus-numbers-wednesday-april-28/67-301e898a-3546-46c5-bcf4-4f6f7d35ef27[/url]

Here's a breakdown of new coronavirus cases reported to the state since April began:

April 1: 6,490
April 2: 6,017
April 3: 4,794
April 4 : 3,480
April 5: 5,556
April 6: 5,885
April 7: 7,939
April 8: 7,121
April 9: 6,906
April 10: 5,520
April 11: 1,613
April 12: 9,068
April 13: 6,772
April 14: 6,762
April 15: 7,296
April 16: 6,323
April 17: 6,834
April 18: 4,237
April 19: 5,645
April 20: 5,571
April 21: 6,684
April 22: 5,464
April 23: 7,411
April 24: 4,671
April 25: 3,513
April 26: 5,271
April 27: 5,178
 
eyephone said:
Regardless, in primetime on Monday night the Fox News host Tucker Carlson claimed requiring children to wear masks outdoors was child abuse.

Carlson also said the only people who wear masks outside are zealots and neurotics and said seeing a vaccinated person wear a mask outdoors was like watching a grown man expose himself in public.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/27/tucker-carlson-fox-news-masks-biden-cdc

The comedy continues!
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It?s not just Tucker...makes you wonder why anyone believes anything now a days...

'Total, complete, blood-boiling nonsense': Dr Fauci is branded a CHILD ABUSER for warning that kids may have to wear masks outdoors until the end of the year because 'they're more at risk of getting infected'

Anthony Fauci on Wednesday morning spoke to Savannah Guthrie on Today
The pair had a testy discussion about children wearing face masks
[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9523305/Total-blood-boiling-nonsense-Fauci-branded-CHILD-ABUSER-children-wear-masks-outdoors.html[/url]
 
Ah yes, lets report the garbage Tucker says without attribution.  This is how conservative media worms these days, their foaming idiots rant, then their news channel reports the rants as if it is educated critique by peers of the person.

Frankly, I'm expecting the fall to be interesting if kids aren't approve for the vaccine by then.

 
Bloomberg News: U.S. Tells Citizens to Leave India as Covid Crisis Deepens

The U.S. told its citizens to get out of India as soon as possible as the country?s Covid-19 crisis worsens at an astonishing pace.

In a Level 4 travel advisory --- the highest of its kind issued by the State Department -- U.S. citizens were told not to travel to India or to leave as soon as it is safe to do so. There are 14 direct daily flights between India and the U.S. and other services that connect through Europe, the department said.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...s-to-leave-india-as-covid-19-swamps-hospitals



 
I'm surprised that Pakistan and Bangladesh are not on the same order given reasonably similar population density and close proximity to India.

Any direct insight as to what's being done differently with these two neighboring countries that India has not done itself?

 
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Soylent Green Is People said:
I'm surprised that Pakistan and Bangladesh are not on the same order given reasonably similar population density and close proximity to India.

Any direct insight as to what's being done differently with these two neighboring countries that India has not done itself?
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Nothing.

Pakistan, Bangladesh and India have the exact same Level 4 Travel Advisory. 

The big difference is the level of country diaspora in the USA, testing (India is 32X and 64X respective testing while only roughly 8X pop.) and media axe to grind, IMHO.

India's problem is the health system for the poor.  Their covid levels are slightly higher than our and maybe on par with unpublished guess rates with France on a per 100,000 basis.

BTW, France has the same level 4 travel advisory. Yet, major news sources like Wapo were publishing articles talking about summer vacation in France while running same panic stories on India.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/covid-4/coronavirus-indiahttps://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/covid-4/coronavirus-pakistanhttps://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/covid-4/coronavirus-bangladesh

Level 4: Very High Level of COVID-19 in Bangladesh
Key Information for Travelers to Bangladesh

Travelers should avoid all travel to Bangladesh.
Because of the current situation in  Bangladesh even fully vaccinated travelers may be at risk for getting and spreading COVID-19 variants and should avoid all travel to Bangladesh.
If you must travel to Bangladesh, get fully vaccinated before travel. All travelers should wear a mask, stay 6 feet from others, avoid crowds, and wash their hands.
See recommendations for fully vaccinated travelers.
See recommendations for unvaccinated travelers.
Quick guide for travelers
COVID-19 Levels


Level 4: Very High



Level 3: High



Level 2: Moderate



Level 1: Low



Level unknown

Learn more about COVID-19 levels.

See all COVID-19 travel notices.


Travel Recommendations for Fully Vaccinated Travelers

If you are fully vaccinated with an FDA-authorized vaccine or a vaccine authorized by emergency use by the World Health Organization:

You do NOT have to get tested before leaving the United States, unless your destination requires it. 
You do NOT have to self-quarantine after you arrive in the United States.
During travel:
Wear a mask over your nose and mouth when in public. Masks are required on planes, buses, trains, and other forms of public transportation traveling into, within, or out of the United States and in U.S. transportation hubs such as airports and stations.
Avoid crowds and stay at least 6 feet/2 meters (about 2 arm lengths) from anyone who is not traveling with you.
Wash your hands often or use hand sanitizer (with at least 60% alcohol).
Before you travel to the United States by air
All air passengers coming to the United States, including U.S. citizens and fully vaccinated people, are required to have a negative COVID-19 test result no more than 3 days before travel or documentation of recovery  from COVID-19 in the past 3 months  before they board a flight to the United States. 

After Travel
You should get tested with a viral test 3-5 days after travel
Self-monitor for COVID-19 symptoms; isolate and get tested if you develop symptoms.
Follow all state and local recommendations or requirements.
Do NOT travel if were exposed to COVID-19, you are sick, you test positive for COVID-19, or you are waiting for results of a COVID-19 test. Learn when it is safe for you to travel. Don?t travel with someone who is sick.


Travel Recommendations for Unvaccinated Travelers

If you are not fully vaccinated and must travel, take the following steps:

Before travel:
Get tested with a viral test 1-3 days before your trip.
During travel:
Wear a mask over your nose and mouth when in public settings. Masks are required on planes, buses, trains, and other forms of public transportation traveling into, within, or out of the United States and in U.S. transportation hubs such as airports and stations.
Avoid crowds and stay at least 6 feet/2 meters (about 2 arm lengths) from anyone who did not travel with you. It's important to do this everywhere?both indoors and outdoors.
Wash your hands often or use hand sanitizer (with at least 60% alcohol).
Before you travel to the United States by air
All air passengers coming to the United States, including U.S. citizens and fully vaccinated people, are required to have a negative COVID-19 test result no more than 3 days before travel or documentation of recovery  from COVID-19 in the past 3 months  before they board a flight to the United States. 

After you travel:
Get tested with a viral test 3-5 days after travel AND stay home and self-quarantine for a full 7 days after travel.
Even if you test negative, stay home and self-quarantine for the full 7 days.
If your test is positive, isolate yourself to protect others from getting infected.
If you don?t get tested, stay home and self-quarantine for 10 days after travel.
Avoid being around people who are at increased risk for severe illness for 14 days, whether you get tested or not.
Self-monitor for COVID-19 symptoms; isolate and get tested if you develop symptoms.
Follow all state and local recommendations or requirements.
Do NOT travel if were exposed to COVID-19, you are sick, you test positive for COVID-19, or you are waiting for results of a COVID-19 test. Learn when it is safe for you to travel. Don?t travel with someone who is sick.
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Children as young as 5 years up to 11 years can potentially be vaccinated around summer if FDA approves. Clinical trials started around March.
 
morekaos said:
Joe Rogan is right about this too....

'If you're a healthy person, and you're exercising all the time, and you're young, and you're eating well, like, I don't think you need to worry about this'
[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9517669/Experts-say-Americans-cut-meat.html[/url]
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Rogan already walked back his statement

"I?m not a doctor, I?m a f***ing moron.

I?m not a respected source of information, even for me.?
https://www.axios.com/joe-rogan-wal...ify-4ab56dcf-b60e-41c6-9c49-fe7f22be7d04.html
 
eyephone said:
Bloomberg News: U.S. Tells Citizens to Leave India as Covid Crisis Deepens

The U.S. told its citizens to get out of India as soon as possible as the country?s Covid-19 crisis worsens at an astonishing pace.

In a Level 4 travel advisory --- the highest of its kind issued by the State Department -- U.S. citizens were told not to travel to India or to leave as soon as it is safe to do so. There are 14 direct daily flights between India and the U.S. and other services that connect through Europe, the department said.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...s-to-leave-india-as-covid-19-swamps-hospitals
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U.S. to restrict travel from India effective May 4 as Covid surge devastates the country

The Biden administration will restrict travel from India as that country grapples with a gigantic surge in coronavirus cases, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said.

The country is battling a highly contagious Covid variant, known as B.1.617, which was first spotted there. The variant, which contains two key mutations that have been found separately in other coronavirus strains, is believed by some to be behind the latest wave of infections.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/30/us-to-restrict-travel-from-covid-ravaged-india.html

 
irvinehomeowner said:
morekaos only deals in misinformation... and purple font.
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Still waiting on your correcting my ?misinformation ?



morekaos said:
...I read charts for a living...please point out the uptrend...
[url]https://www.wtsp.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-numbers/florida-coronavirus-numbers-wednesday-april-28/67-301e898a-3546-46c5-bcf4-4f6f7d35ef27[/url]

Here's a breakdown of new coronavirus cases reported to the state since April began:

April 1: 6,490
April 2: 6,017
April 3: 4,794
April 4 : 3,480
April 5: 5,556
April 6: 5,885
April 7: 7,939
April 8: 7,121
April 9: 6,906
April 10: 5,520
April 11: 1,613
April 12: 9,068
April 13: 6,772
April 14: 6,762
April 15: 7,296
April 16: 6,323
April 17: 6,834
April 18: 4,237
April 19: 5,645
April 20: 5,571
April 21: 6,684
April 22: 5,464
April 23: 7,411
April 24: 4,671
April 25: 3,513
April 26: 5,271
April 27: 5,178
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Did you look at your link?

Here is the graph on your article:

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See that little rise in slope at the end? That's the "uptick" I was referring to.

Find California's and it's not any "better" as you misinformed here.

Purple doesn't make it factual.
 
Florida health advisory says go mask free once you?re vaccinated.

Just for comparison, India, the country, reported record cases on Friday.  Their incidence rate is 28/100k.  We?re restricting travel, in a few days.

Florida reported mild cases of 5306. For an incidence rate of 25/100k.

The 7 day average incidence rate is actually higher in Florida than India.

I?m not belittling India, they are having a crises, we however are in strong denial on how fast our situation can change in the States.
 
nosuchreality said:
Florida health advisory says go mask free once you?re vaccinated.

Just for comparison, India, the country, reported record cases on Friday.  Their incidence rate is 28/100k.  We?re restricting travel, in a few days.

Florida reported mild cases of 5306. For an incidence rate of 25/100k.

The 7 day average incidence rate is actually higher in Florida than India.

I?m not belittling India, they are having a crises, we however are in strong denial on how fast our situation can change in the States.
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India reported 400k daily covid cases. Is that the world record for daily covid cases?
 
nosuchreality said:
Florida health advisory says go mask free once you?re vaccinated.

Just for comparison, India, the country, reported record cases on Friday.  Their incidence rate is 28/100k.  We?re restricting travel, in a few days.

Florida reported mild cases of 5306. For an incidence rate of 25/100k.

The 7 day average incidence rate is actually higher in Florida than India.

I?m not belittling India, they are having a crises, we however are in strong denial on how fast our situation can change in the States.
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I don?t know if it is denial as much denial as it is positive trends/indicators. I think 30% (100 million, 40% of adults) of the US population is fully vaccinated. Then if you consider those previously infected (32 million known infections, plus who knows how many unknown), that probably adds another 10-20% if the adult population that has some defense mechanism. And it appears the actual issue in India is the poor healthcare system vs ours in the US since based on your numbers on a per capita basis it seems that generally their infections are no worse than ours.

I think it?s good for people to start turning the corner and being more positive as we exit the pandemic.
 
Case numbers metrics are by some measures worthless. Example - the US may see higher case numbers, but those vaccinated will not have as severe issues as would the unvaccinated. Higher case numbers but far fewer deaths isn't what India is going through at present.

Death count also is hard to compare also as their health systems, their mortuary practices, their population age, weight, etc aren't congruent to our healthcare systems or population.

All we really know is this: A terrible thing is going on over there now. I hope the US will ship as much of the vaccine materials as possible as it's the only way through this.

My .02c
 
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