coronavirus

[nosuchreality]

I'd rather be wrong.

Given that the first USA case was a 20 yo that was basically isolating not traveling 50 miles outside of Denver, I'd say its everywhere in the lower 48.

It is sad to learn of all the trauma people are sharing, hopefully it helps people adjust to the reality of the situation and take practical steps in safety while maintaining as much normalcy as possible.

 

[eyephone]

The fact is not that many people took this seriously at the beginning. Then here we are now with 350k deaths and rising people are still down playing it and not taking it seriously.

I see the only solution is regulation like enforcing seat belts. You would think people would do the right thing to get over this. This may be the only solution to get back to normal besides the vaccine. So far the vaccine rollout has been a joke.

I am happy that I purchased a chest freezer for my garage. Because I am not going out anytime soon. 

 

[eyephone]

Iho - I hope for the best for your cousin.

 

[aquabliss]

Very sorry to hear about your cousin IHO.  My 91 year old aunt tested positive for COVID on Christmas Eve.  She has been through a lot and is quite the fighter but tonight we found out she has been admitted to the hospital.  Worst part is we can?t visit her and it?s difficult getting updates on her health and situation. 

 

[irvinehomeowner]

@aquabliss: I also hope your aunt gets through this.

My other cousin (her brother who also has Covid) says she is stable so hopefully she pulls out.

More people we know are getting it... it's crazy.

 

[usctrojancpa]

Very sorry to hear about your cousin IHO.  My 91 year old aunt tested positive for COVID on Christmas Eve.  She has been through a lot and is quite the fighter but tonight we found out she has been admitted to the hospital.  Worst part is we can?t visit her and it?s difficult getting updates on her health and situation. 

I hope your aunt and IHO's cousin pulls through.  Any idea of how and who your aunt might have gotten covid from?  I worry most about my dad and stepdad who are both over 70 and have had or have dealt with health issues that put them at very high risk if they got covid. 

 

[aquabliss]

Very sorry to hear about your cousin IHO.  My 91 year old aunt tested positive for COVID on Christmas Eve.  She has been through a lot and is quite the fighter but tonight we found out she has been admitted to the hospital.  Worst part is we can?t visit her and it?s difficult getting updates on her health and situation. 

I hope your aunt and IHO's cousin pulls through.  Any idea of how and who your aunt might have gotten covid from?  I worry most about my dad and stepdad who are both over 70 and have had or have dealt with health issues that put them at very high risk if they got covid. 

Thanks M.  Yes, she?s in a home in Placentia.  They are pretty much on lockdown (no guests, residents confined to their rooms most of the day, etc).  Anyhow one of the residents felt ill and tested positive.  After that they tested all the other residents in the facility (probably around 50), and my aunt tested positive.  She had no symptoms at the time but afterwards developed mild symptoms only (light cough).  Got a call tonight the home said she had trouble breathing so they admitted her to the hospital.  Don?t even know how true that is or how severe her case is since my cousin (aunts daughter) hasn?t even been able to speak with her yet.  We?ll find out more in the next day or 2. 

 

[nosuchreality]

Aqua, I hope your aunt does well and recovers fully with only a brief hospital stay.  Our aunt that was recently hospitalized is out after a few days of supplemental oxygen and clearing the fever.  O2, steriods and unclear if they gave her Rem.  Unsurprisingly, 80 year olds with high fever, low O2 and sick don't manage the what am I getting details very well.

 

[nosuchreality]

Looks like we are starting 2021 with discouraging news.

Wisconisn, a Pharmast is pending charges and in jail for internationally spoiling 570 doses of vaccine.  Several of the doses were then administered in a hope to "save" the vaccine, before they realized the pharmacist had done the same the day before returning them to storage and the vials were outside their storage parameters.

West Virginia in their vaccine program managed to give 50 people shots from the short supply of antibody treatment instead of the vaccine.

And of course, vaccine roll out ended 2020 with far below Whitehouse claims.

 

[eyephone]

Amid a devastating Covid-19 surge, Los Angeles County ambulance crews told not to transport patients with little chance of survival

In a little more than a month, the county doubled its number of infections, climbing from about 400,000 cases on November 30 to more than 800,000 cases on January 2, health officials said Monday.

The case deluge has translated to a surge of Covid-19 patients, overwhelming hospitals and plunging intensive care unit capacity across the region to zero. There are now more than 7,600 people hospitalized with Covid-19 in in the county, 21% of whom are in the ICU, officials said
With no hospital beds available, ambulance crews in the county were given guidance not to transport patients with little chance of survival. And the patients who are transported often have to wait hours before a bed is available.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/us/los-angeles-county-california-human-disaster-covid/index.html

 

[eyephone]

Soaring COVID-19 Death Numbers Reported In Orange County As Funeral Homes Struggle To Find Space
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/vid...unty-as-funeral-homes-struggle-to-find-space/

 

[nosuchreality]

Amid a devastating Covid-19 surge, Los Angeles County ambulance crews told not to transport patients with little chance of survival

In a little more than a month, the county doubled its number of infections, climbing from about 400,000 cases on November 30 to more than 800,000 cases on January 2, health officials said Monday.

The case deluge has translated to a surge of Covid-19 patients, overwhelming hospitals and plunging intensive care unit capacity across the region to zero. There are now more than 7,600 people hospitalized with Covid-19 in in the county, 21% of whom are in the ICU, officials said
With no hospital beds available, ambulance crews in the county were given guidance not to transport patients with little chance of survival. And the patients who are transported often have to wait hours before a bed is available.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/us/los-angeles-county-california-human-disaster-covid/index.html

Next 2-3 months keep your stress in check, heart attack, stroke and other time sensitive outcomes are going to be much worse than typically expected.

The next month already sadly has the die cast.

The headline is a bit disjointed, the directive says if they can?t restore a pulse in the field, don?t go take them to the hospital, which IMho makes sense since they probably will sit at the hospital.

While that sounds bad, the grimmer directive came out yesterday, directing oxygen conservation and using a minimum to achieve 90% saturation. 

 

[kpatnps]

We might already have the UK variant in SoCal. Still pending DNA sequencing.

L.A. County is probing whether a new, more contagious COVID strain is spreading locally https://www.latimes.com/california/...-contagious-covid-strain-is-spreading-locally

Fixed that.  Seriously with the air traffic between London and NYC.  And between NYC and LA.  Might is unlikely given it has already been confirmed for Netherlands and Japan

I agree. Given the number of international travelers and ferocity of cases in SoCal, the UK variant is likely in our community.

The US should be doing a better job with viral surveillance. We are still flying blind without adequate testing and viral analysis.

@Nosuchreality -- you predicted correctly. The UK variant is now confirmed in SoCal.

New, potentially more contagious coronavirus variant found in California, Newsom says
https://www.latimes.com/california/...ia-hits-new-one-day-covid-19-death-record-442

"The new, potentially more contagious variant of the coronavirus identified in Britain has been found in California, Gov. Gavin Newsom announced Wednesday.

It?s unclear where precisely the variant was found, but Newsom said it was somewhere in Southern California.

The first reported U.S. case of COVID-19 caused by that particular coronavirus strain was detected in Colorado, officials there announced Tuesday.

Though there are some signs this strain is able to more easily spread, ?there?s no indication at all that it increases the virulence ? the ability to make you sick or kill you. It doesn?t seem to make it more strong in that regard,? Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said during a conversation with Newsom.

Fauci also said the variant doesn?t seem to render vaccines against the coronavirus ineffective.

Some scientists are also skeptical of the conclusion that the genetic changes in the strain, known as B.1.1.7., actually causes the virus to be more contagious. There are other reasons that can explain the variant?s rapid spread in England, such as its transmission through dense communities and among people who are less likely to wear masks and socially distance."

This may be more alarming.https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/south-african-sars-cov-2-variant-alarms-scientists-68317

 

[iacrenter]

Amid a devastating Covid-19 surge, Los Angeles County ambulance crews told not to transport patients with little chance of survival

In a little more than a month, the county doubled its number of infections, climbing from about 400,000 cases on November 30 to more than 800,000 cases on January 2, health officials said Monday.

The case deluge has translated to a surge of Covid-19 patients, overwhelming hospitals and plunging intensive care unit capacity across the region to zero. There are now more than 7,600 people hospitalized with Covid-19 in in the county, 21% of whom are in the ICU, officials said
With no hospital beds available, ambulance crews in the county were given guidance not to transport patients with little chance of survival. And the patients who are transported often have to wait hours before a bed is available.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/us/los-angeles-county-california-human-disaster-covid/index.html

Next 2-3 months keep your stress in check, heart attack, stroke and other time sensitive outcomes are going to be much worse than typically expected.

The next month already sadly has the die cast.

The headline is a bit disjointed, the directive says if they can?t restore a pulse in the field, don?t go take them to the hospital, which IMho makes sense since they probably will sit at the hospital.

While that sounds bad, the grimmer directive came out yesterday, directing oxygen conservation and using a minimum to achieve 90% saturation. 

I agree with NSR. Pandemic stress on our healthcare system is impacting emergency/critial care. You can't expect me to provide the same pre-covid level of care when I'm evaluating you in a sidewalk chair. Even if there is a bed, the nurses are too overwhelmed to get you the medicines I order. Add in delays for lab tests and imaging studies and it is a recipe for disaster.

Pre-COVID, cardiac arrest already has a very poor survival rate ~10%. Given the limited resources during the pandemic, it seems reasonable from a health system perspective to not bring these patients to the hospital. Even with diversion and a full hospital, ambulances are still allowed to go to the nearest ER for cardiac arrest. If there is no available bed, they will run the Code Blue in the ambulance bay or hallway on the EMS gurney. On arrival the doctor, nurses, techs, and respiratory therapist will drop everything they are doing to care for this one patient. It requires tremendous resources and for those that arrive without a pulse, it is unlikely to have a good outcome.

 

[eyephone]

You can thank Trump for promoting non maskers.


Independent news Article: Trump-backing anti-maskers storm California shop: ?I don?t want underwear over my face!?

A crowd of around 50 maskless people stormed into a grocery store in California, flouting safety guidelines, in what they said was a protest against mask restrictions getting ?out of hand?.

Los Angeles police were called to the grocery store in  Erewhon Market in the Fairfax district after the crowd began aggressively questioning the store?s employees and customers, according to a report by KTLA TV.

A woman who was part of the protest wearing a red "MAGA" hat told the Daily Beast: "The masks do nothing! That's why you can wear anything! I don't wear underwear over my face! I'll pull off my underwear right now and put them over my face."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...mp-anti-maskers-protest-grocery-b1780707.html

 

[eyephone]

Amid a devastating Covid-19 surge, Los Angeles County ambulance crews told not to transport patients with little chance of survival

In a little more than a month, the county doubled its number of infections, climbing from about 400,000 cases on November 30 to more than 800,000 cases on January 2, health officials said Monday.

The case deluge has translated to a surge of Covid-19 patients, overwhelming hospitals and plunging intensive care unit capacity across the region to zero. There are now more than 7,600 people hospitalized with Covid-19 in in the county, 21% of whom are in the ICU, officials said
With no hospital beds available, ambulance crews in the county were given guidance not to transport patients with little chance of survival. And the patients who are transported often have to wait hours before a bed is available.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/us/los-angeles-county-california-human-disaster-covid/index.html

Next 2-3 months keep your stress in check, heart attack, stroke and other time sensitive outcomes are going to be much worse than typically expected.

The next month already sadly has the die cast.

The headline is a bit disjointed, the directive says if they can%u2019t restore a pulse in the field, don%u2019t go take them to the hospital, which IMho makes sense since they probably will sit at the hospital.

While that sounds bad, the grimmer directive came out yesterday, directing oxygen conservation and using a minimum to achieve 90% saturation. 

I agree with NSR. Pandemic stress on our healthcare system is impacting emergency/critial care. You can't expect me to provide the same pre-covid level of care when I'm evaluating you in a sidewalk chair. Even if there is a bed, the nurses are too overwhelmed to get you the medicines I order. Add in delays for lab tests and imaging studies and it is a recipe for disaster.

Pre-COVID, cardiac arrest already has a very poor survival rate ~10%. Given the limited resources during the pandemic, it seems reasonable from a health system perspective to not bring these patients to the hospital. Even with diversion and a full hospital, ambulances are still allowed to go to the nearest ER for cardiac arrest. If there is no available bed, they will run the Code Blue in the ambulance bay or hallway on the EMS gurney. On arrival the doctor, nurses, techs, and respiratory therapist will drop everything they are doing to care for this one patient. It requires tremendous resources and for those that arrive without a pulse, it is unlikely to have a good outcome.

The medical professionals and medical unions need to make a statement about masks. They should of made a big deal when the health advisor for OC supervisors was harassed and threats were made. I am like the only one on TI that was outraged for the lack of security for the Heath advisor. Just imagine if the mask policy was in place and enforced since last summer I want to say. I can say this: We would be in such a better place. Believe me so much better.
The medical professionals are too nice and should call out why we are where we are.

Edit: So maybe the medical professionals have said something but I kind of don?t watch tv that much. But I haven?t seen it. I am talking about non stop in front of cameras blogs/vlogs 247 like campaigning. Like do the right thing, wear a mask!

 

[iacrenter]

Amid a devastating Covid-19 surge, Los Angeles County ambulance crews told not to transport patients with little chance of survival

In a little more than a month, the county doubled its number of infections, climbing from about 400,000 cases on November 30 to more than 800,000 cases on January 2, health officials said Monday.

The case deluge has translated to a surge of Covid-19 patients, overwhelming hospitals and plunging intensive care unit capacity across the region to zero. There are now more than 7,600 people hospitalized with Covid-19 in in the county, 21% of whom are in the ICU, officials said
With no hospital beds available, ambulance crews in the county were given guidance not to transport patients with little chance of survival. And the patients who are transported often have to wait hours before a bed is available.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/us/los-angeles-county-california-human-disaster-covid/index.html

Next 2-3 months keep your stress in check, heart attack, stroke and other time sensitive outcomes are going to be much worse than typically expected.

The next month already sadly has the die cast.

The headline is a bit disjointed, the directive says if they can%u2019t restore a pulse in the field, don%u2019t go take them to the hospital, which IMho makes sense since they probably will sit at the hospital.

While that sounds bad, the grimmer directive came out yesterday, directing oxygen conservation and using a minimum to achieve 90% saturation. 

I agree with NSR. Pandemic stress on our healthcare system is impacting emergency/critial care. You can't expect me to provide the same pre-covid level of care when I'm evaluating you in a sidewalk chair. Even if there is a bed, the nurses are too overwhelmed to get you the medicines I order. Add in delays for lab tests and imaging studies and it is a recipe for disaster.

Pre-COVID, cardiac arrest already has a very poor survival rate ~10%. Given the limited resources during the pandemic, it seems reasonable from a health system perspective to not bring these patients to the hospital. Even with diversion and a full hospital, ambulances are still allowed to go to the nearest ER for cardiac arrest. If there is no available bed, they will run the Code Blue in the ambulance bay or hallway on the EMS gurney. On arrival the doctor, nurses, techs, and respiratory therapist will drop everything they are doing to care for this one patient. It requires tremendous resources and for those that arrive without a pulse, it is unlikely to have a good outcome.

The medical professionals and medical unions need to make a statement about masks. They should of made a big deal when the health advisor for OC supervisors was harassed and threats were made. I am like the only one on TI that was outraged for the lack of security for the Heath advisor. Just imagine if the mask policy was in place and enforced since last summer I want to say. I can say this: We would be in such a better place. Believe me so much better.
The medical professionals are too nice and should call out why we are where we are.

Edit: So maybe the medical professionals have said something but I kind of don?t watch tv that much. But I haven?t seen it. I am talking about non stop in front of cameras blogs/vlogs 247 like campaigning. Like do the right thing, wear a mask!

Health professionals are on the TV news everyday, pleading with the public to follow public health guidelines. Unfortunately the damage to the mask message is already done. Trump et al. has made mask mandates a political instead of public health issue. COVID fatigue has set in and there is a disconnect between personal behavior and the scores of dead and dying in hospitals. It angers me to see LA anti-maskers protesting in grocery stores. This country is really f*#'d up. We are paying the price for poor leadership and an absence of a national strategy to fight the virus.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Cousin has developed blood clot in lung and having kidney problems.

 

[usctrojancpa]

Cousin has developed blood clot in lung and having kidney problems.

Ohh geezzz, I hope they get better.  Did the doctors say that the blood clot in the lung was due to covid?

 

[qwerty]

Cousin has developed blood clot in lung and having kidney problems.

Sorry to hear IHO - hope things improve for your cousin.