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So a buddy of mine who I?ve had contact with just found out he needs to get tested because someone at his office tested positive and they want to make sure he is ok.

He reached out to me to let me know although when I last talked to him we were outside, socially distanced and wearing masks. This was about 10 days ago.

I?m going to wait to see what his test comes back as and if positive I?ll get a test.

Or should I get a test anyways? I can smell and taste fine. :)

This is getting a bit too real for me as this is the first friend I?ve seen in person who may have also been exposed.

And no, he isn?t qwerty. :)
 
If you guys are both wearing masks, keeping distance, and outside, chances are very low you contracted it even if he?s positive.  I vote for waiting, but even if he?s positive I bet you?re fine.
 
@IHo - I?m sure you are fine. While the incubation period can be up to 14 days, most symptoms begin by day 5. Good luck. Remember next time to do a mask and face shield! Dentist style!
 
qwerty said:
@IHo - I?m sure you are fine. While the incubation period can be up to 14 days, most symptoms begin by day 5. Good luck. Remember next time to do a mask and face shield! Dentist style!
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Yeah. I think I?m ok. I?m more likely to get it from all my dining out. :)

I just hope my friend is alright, although he is younger and probably had it and never knew.
 
IHO: Did your friend or you have the following: cough, runny nose, diarrhea
(Too personal and you do not have to answer. But these are also symptoms)
 
eyephone said:
IHO: Did your friend or you have the following: cough, runny nose, diarrhea
(Too personal and you do not have to answer. But these are also symptoms)
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Last time I saw him was 10 days ago.

Like many of my friends, communication is primarily via text and he hasn?t said he?s feeling sick but as we know you can be asymptomatic and still be a carrier.
 
Given the relatively high positive rate of people getting tested, aren?t you getting almost as much exposure from showing up at a test site as you had from visiting your friend?
 
That's why have you show up in your anti-viral protective bubble machine... aka... your car. :)

I'm not worried anymore... Trump said 99% of Covid cases are harmless.  :o

Edit: Typo
 
For Mety:

LA County numbers:

Cases: 116,570
Deaths: 3,534

That is more cases than 44 states in the US and more deaths than 41 other states.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

So yeah, maybe those protests had some effect.

This site projects 175k deaths in the US by Oct 1 but if we use proper safety protocols (like masks) it can save 25k lives:
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

It also shows multiple graphs with scenarios of how flattening the curve saves lives, reduces number of infections, and reduces usage of medical resources... but qwerty will ignore that part. :)
 
irvinehomeowner said:
For Mety:

LA County numbers:

Cases: 116,570
Deaths: 3,534

That is more cases than 44 states in the US and more deaths than 41 other states.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

So yeah, maybe those protests had some effect.

This site projects 175k deaths in the US by Oct 1 but if we use proper safety protocols (like masks) it can save 25k lives:
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

It also shows multiple graphs with scenarios of how flattening the curve saves lives, reduces number of infections, and reduces usage of medical resources... but qwerty will ignore that part. :)
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Thanks for posting these information here. While it sounds pretty bad (and it is), there are some things I found when I looked into those links.

I don't know how accurate it is, but there are most new cases in Florida and Arizona while California shows none according to that worldometers website. I think California is one of the most protested areas, but most new cases are somewhere else (again, according to that website).

Another interesting fact is that 1M out of 3M infected people have recovered. The website says 91% recovered. While knowing that 3M people have had C-19 is disturbingly awful, 91% recovery rate is pretty positive IMHO.

116,570 cases and 3,534 deaths in California are very unfortunate. However, speaking of how much protests have had affect on this since it could cover the topic of how social distancing and lockdown actually would work to flatten the curve, the website you linked tells a little bit different perspective than what you have been saying. Maybe you took it in a different view? 
 
You're reading the information how you want to read it.

Just take the data as it is, how does one county outnumber over 40 states? Connect the dots... like adventurous says... think again.

Data can always be skewed one way or another... like govts think the beaches are the issue... but then how do states like Arizona that don't have beaches surge?

And what does 91% recovered mean? There are concerns that Covid has long term effects so how are you going to be in a year? 5 years?

You estimated number of deaths way lower than what is actually happening... and continuing to go up... are you trying to tell us that Covid is not something to be worried about?
 
irvinehomeowner said:
You're reading the information how you want to read it.

Just take the data as it is, how does one county outnumber over 40 states? Connect the dots... like adventurous says... think again.

Data can always be skewed one way or another... like govts think the beaches are the issue... but then how do states like Arizona that don't have beaches surge?

And what does 91% recovered mean? There are concerns that Covid has long term effects so how are you going to be in a year? 5 years?

You estimated number of deaths way lower than what is actually happening... and continuing to go up... are you trying to tell us that Covid is not something to be worried about?
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Maybe YOU're the one reading things including my posts how you want to read it. I simply almost just copied and pasted from the website you linked. I can give you screen-captures if you don't believe me regarding new cases and 91% recovery the website provides.

Yes, I did estimate months ago of the infection and deaths numbers way lower than what's actually happening. But that doesn't mean I blame the beaches or don't think of Covid-19 as something to be worried about. You're almost pulling eyephone one me. ;D

As I've been saying, I'm all for being careful. But I don't agree with some stuff the governor or cities are enforcing on people while closing down all businesses. I also liked your solution the best - wearing masks but have all the businesses open.

But regarding this previous post I replied to yours, I was only referencing the impact how much BLM protests actually did produce the new cases since you brought that up. The website YOU linked says California has NONE new cases. I'll be a little nicer than you and not say "think again." READ AGAIN.

 
You keep focusing on the "new cases"... a single data point.

That gets updated daily and who knows how WorldOMeter gets it... yesterday that could have been 10000, that's why you should look at total cases and deaths and compare that to everywhere else. Maybe you should read again. :)
 
Also, you must not be paying attention to the news... California and LA County are the areas that are having record breaking new cases on average in the last few weeks.

I would post a link but you may read it wrong.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
You keep focusing on the "new cases"... a single data point.

That gets updated daily and who knows how WorldOMeter gets it... that's why you should look at total cases and deaths and compare that to everywhere else. Maybe you should read again. :)
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Oh, so now you're saying who knows how WorldOMeter gets the information? You believe the total numbers it says but not the new cases? You also brought up the protests might have had some effect but I shouldn't look at the new cases numbers to find out? I'm sorry for what I'm about to say..
DOUBLE STANDARD!!!
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Also, you must not be paying attention to the news... California and LA County are the areas that are having record breaking new cases on average in the last few weeks.

I would post a link but you may read it wrong.
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I think the majority of the people here know you read/take stuff way you want to look at more than anyone in TI.

In all seriousness, I think you and I were focusing on different things in that previous post. I agree with you that CA's number looks pretty bad. But we're still unsure of how the protests which no social distancing was practiced are having impact on actual new cases. You might say you know already since CA's number is high, but I'm yet to find actual new cases from the protest scenes.

Now that doesn't mean I defend China, think of C-19 as just a cough, see it as something no young people get, look to get a dime discount from HOA, and am a fake Christian. Although eyephone assumes of me all of the above. ;D
 
Mety said:
irvinehomeowner said:
You keep focusing on the "new cases"... a single data point.

That gets updated daily and who knows how WorldOMeter gets it... that's why you should look at total cases and deaths and compare that to everywhere else. Maybe you should read again. :)
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Oh, so now you're saying who knows how WorldOMeter gets the information? You believe the total numbers it says but not the new cases? You also brought up the protests might have had some effect but I shouldn't look at the new cases numbers to find out? I'm sorry for what I'm about to say..
DOUBLE STANDARD!!!
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Wow you need to read.

What I'm saying is you shouldn't rely on WorldOMeter's new case count because that changes daily and may not be updated for today. Instead, find a site that has a graph to show you the increase over time.

Like LA's Covid site, you'll see positivity rates and hospitalizations have all increased significantly in June:
http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/media/Coronavirus/data/index.htm

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And again, as I said before, it's a combination of the protests and the reopening but considering the totals coming out of LA County compared to FORTY other states, there could be causality there.
 
Oh, okay.

So yesterday 1028 new cases.

Up to 634 in the hospital. They've taken down the history, but I seem to recall the discussion about 300 in thw hospital not that long ago.

203 ICU.

And like I said, zero deaths.  At the point the lagging death indicator scares you, you are a month too late.

We aren't too bad yet, if the trend continues though it will become bad.
 
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