irvinehomeowner
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qwerty said:Just so we are clear, I?m the one one better shape on the right
Of course. I would never challenge your calves.
Coronavirus Recession
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Of course. I would never challenge your calves.
I think they do their updates through Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/ocgov
And so it begins. Newsome wants state employees to take a 10% paycut in July. Does that include nurses and doctors that work for state facilities like UCI medical center, professors, teachers and other workers at state universities like Cal State and UC, construction workers like Cal Trans?
Plus spending and program cuts which only means private sector going to hurt too.
Some of these employees (nurses and doctors) were already furloughed cuz their "elective" specialties were not allowed to accept patients.
That?s your opinion.
If there were 150k+ dead right now... the economy would be in ruins.
You can?t prove a negative.
See.... I can post morekaos/qwerty style too.
I do not want to say it. But the Fed is handing out money like it is candy. But the taxpayers will get crushed. (candy crush jk jk)
For example the triple P loans should be called grants. Because if the business meets the criteria they do not have to pay the taxpayers back.
Of course. I would never challenge your calves.
irvinehomeowner
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eyephone said:
I think they do their updates through Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/ocgov
Ready2Downsize
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Ready2Downsize said:
And so it begins. Newsome wants state employees to take a 10% paycut in July. Does that include nurses and doctors that work for state facilities like UCI medical center, professors, teachers and other workers at state universities like Cal State and UC, construction workers like Cal Trans?
Plus spending and program cuts which only means private sector going to hurt too.
Some of these employees (nurses and doctors) were already furloughed cuz their "elective" specialties were not allowed to accept patients.
qwerty
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This was a clear next step from day 1, when they announced the shutdown. I wonder what the reaction would have been if at the time he announced the shutdown he also announced that any revenue shortfall as a result of the shutdown would have to be offset with corresponding decreases in expenses.
I?m guess the government workers would not have been as supportive of the shutdown (to the extent they were to begin with).
Hopefully the government workers understand that without the revenue coming in they have to do their fair share just like those of us who have been doing our fair share by paying some of the highest income taxes in the country.
I?m guess the government workers would not have been as supportive of the shutdown (to the extent they were to begin with).
Hopefully the government workers understand that without the revenue coming in they have to do their fair share just like those of us who have been doing our fair share by paying some of the highest income taxes in the country.
irvinehomeowner
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Interesting video experiment from Japan to show how one person can spread a virus in a buffet setting:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/heal...periment-coronavirus-trnd-wellness/index.html
Granted, the amount of ?sneeze/cough? material was quite a bit but it does illustrate how much shared contact people have.
They redid the experiment using sanitization protocols and having guests frequently clean their hands and there was zero spread.
So there is still hope for buffets to reopen.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/heal...periment-coronavirus-trnd-wellness/index.html
Granted, the amount of ?sneeze/cough? material was quite a bit but it does illustrate how much shared contact people have.
They redid the experiment using sanitization protocols and having guests frequently clean their hands and there was zero spread.
So there is still hope for buffets to reopen.
irvinehomeowner
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So Georgia may have opened... but they haven't really opened. While the governor had declared an aggressive reopening 3 weeks ago, many businesses are still being very cautious about what they do to protect their employees and clients:
Conor Sen: Georgia?s fast reopening is going pretty slowly
https://www.twincities.com/2020/05/15/conor-sen-georgias-fast-reopening-is-going-pretty-slowly/
So before qwerty claims that reopening hasn't caused a rise in Covid cases/deaths in Georgia... there has to be an understanding that there are many businesses that haven't really opened and people are still acting like it's a lockdown.
Which is good health-wise, but also shows that the economy would suffer whether the government forced a lockdown or not.
Conor Sen: Georgia?s fast reopening is going pretty slowly
https://www.twincities.com/2020/05/15/conor-sen-georgias-fast-reopening-is-going-pretty-slowly/
So before qwerty claims that reopening hasn't caused a rise in Covid cases/deaths in Georgia... there has to be an understanding that there are many businesses that haven't really opened and people are still acting like it's a lockdown.
Which is good health-wise, but also shows that the economy would suffer whether the government forced a lockdown or not.
qwerty
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At least they let the businesses decide I?ve always said they should let whatever businesses that want to open and let customers decide if they want go out and shop based on their level of comfort. They may or may or get customers but at least everyone decides on their own.
And I?ve never said there would have been no economic slowdown if the government never mandated the shutdown. I said it would have been nowhere as bad as it has been.
And I?ve never said there would have been no economic slowdown if the government never mandated the shutdown. I said it would have been nowhere as bad as it has been.
irvinehomeowner
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If there were over 100k dead months ago because we didn?t flatten the curve, the economy would be pretty bad... maybe worse.
irvinehomeowner
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qwerty said:
That?s your opinion.
If there were 150k+ dead right now... the economy would be in ruins.
You can?t prove a negative.
See.... I can post morekaos/qwerty style too.
morekaos
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America!!! We always win in the end!!!
Moderna reports positive data on early-stage coronavirus vaccine trial, shares surge
Moderna?s closely watched early-stage human trial for a coronavirus vaccine produced Covid-19 antibodies in all 45 participants, the biotech company announced Monday, sending the company?s shares surging more than 17%.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/18/moderna-reports-positive-data-on-early-stage-coronavirus-vaccine-trial.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard
Moderna reports positive data on early-stage coronavirus vaccine trial, shares surge
Moderna?s closely watched early-stage human trial for a coronavirus vaccine produced Covid-19 antibodies in all 45 participants, the biotech company announced Monday, sending the company?s shares surging more than 17%.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/18/moderna-reports-positive-data-on-early-stage-coronavirus-vaccine-trial.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard
irvinebullhousing
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US Banks On Life Support
The new Macro Watch video shows that, without the unprecedented support that the government and the Fed are providing to the economy during the Coronavirus crisis, it is likely that all the major banks in the United States would go bankrupt.
https://richardduncaneconomics.com/us-banks-on-life-support/
Here is the next sectors to face crisis. Our 45 did not see health crisis intertwine with financial at the time he first went on TV to declare national emergency.
How much can the FED pledge for this sector?
The new Macro Watch video shows that, without the unprecedented support that the government and the Fed are providing to the economy during the Coronavirus crisis, it is likely that all the major banks in the United States would go bankrupt.
https://richardduncaneconomics.com/us-banks-on-life-support/
Here is the next sectors to face crisis. Our 45 did not see health crisis intertwine with financial at the time he first went on TV to declare national emergency.
How much can the FED pledge for this sector?
Compressed-Village said:
I do not want to say it. But the Fed is handing out money like it is candy. But the taxpayers will get crushed. (candy crush jk jk)
For example the triple P loans should be called grants. Because if the business meets the criteria they do not have to pay the taxpayers back.
irvinebullhousing
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The economy is like a seasons. Summer, Fall, Winter, and Spring. You have to let the market work itself out.
Now, that the FED manipulated so much for so long, the manipulation hit the point of hard reset. FED doing everything they can, to only pro-long the process.
In the end just like covid, you can try to slow it down, until a cure / vaccine comes. Just like the FED, they will need to have this market reset after the pro-long failed. It will take much longer time and more pains. If free market works like it suppose to works with out intervention, then the sun will shine much sooner.
Now, that the FED manipulated so much for so long, the manipulation hit the point of hard reset. FED doing everything they can, to only pro-long the process.
In the end just like covid, you can try to slow it down, until a cure / vaccine comes. Just like the FED, they will need to have this market reset after the pro-long failed. It will take much longer time and more pains. If free market works like it suppose to works with out intervention, then the sun will shine much sooner.
irvinehomeowner
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So Newsom is relaxing California county guidelines because he doesn't want to get calved in the face.
Zero deaths in 14 weeks was an impossible ask and as we move through this, there will probably continue to be further modifications to guidelines. As much as critics can say this seems like they don't know what they are doing I feel this is how this should be dealt with to prevent any type of spike/surge.
In order to deal with the lower capacity of indoor seating for restaurants, there are proposals to use outdoor common areas/parking to provide more seating.
Interestingly enough, when I was down in Costa Mesa the other weekend, a non-drive thru The Habit restaurant created a drive-thru for themselves in the parking lot with cones and tents.
Too bad they can't create a drive-thru KBBQ.
Bad thing about reopening the economy? Bad traffic again.
Zero deaths in 14 weeks was an impossible ask and as we move through this, there will probably continue to be further modifications to guidelines. As much as critics can say this seems like they don't know what they are doing I feel this is how this should be dealt with to prevent any type of spike/surge.
In order to deal with the lower capacity of indoor seating for restaurants, there are proposals to use outdoor common areas/parking to provide more seating.
Interestingly enough, when I was down in Costa Mesa the other weekend, a non-drive thru The Habit restaurant created a drive-thru for themselves in the parking lot with cones and tents.
Too bad they can't create a drive-thru KBBQ.
Bad thing about reopening the economy? Bad traffic again.
irvinehomeowner
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So many people eating outside this shopping center I?m picking up food at even though the tables have signs on them saying not to.
One guy is even eating inside.
Did Irvine open up dining without telling me?
One guy is even eating inside.
Did Irvine open up dining without telling me?
