Cops at Woodbury Stop Signs

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Not to cause problems but this is interesting article about red light camera.



<a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080413-red-light-camera-monkey-business-may-be-a-national-trend.html">http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080413-red-light-camera-monkey-business-may-be-a-national-trend.html</a>



"In the single court case that has occurred thus far, Chattanooga's city traffic engineer John Van Winkle testified that the yellow signal light should be (and was) turned on for the 3.9 seconds necessary to meet basic safety standards. The judge in question ordered the claim verified, and discovered that the light was only set for three seconds?significantly less than the 3.9-second minimum. Van Winkle claims that the problem was caused by an accidental mixup with turn arrow timing, but there might be more behind the issue. According to confidental documents released in 2001, Lasercraft, the company behind Chattanooga's red camera lights, only installs red light cameras at high-volume intersections with an "amber phase" of less than four seconds.



None of the other cities are facing court actions, but investigative reports have turned up troublesome trends. In Dallas, yellow lights at the city's revenue generators camera-enforced intersections were timed for just 3.15 seconds, or 0.35 seconds less than the Texas Department of Transportation minimum. In this case, a third of a second may make a substantial difference in revenue?theNewspaper reports that most (80 percent) red-light tickets are issued less than one second after the light has turned to red. Ironically, Dallas is now considering scrapping its ticket revenue program after new legislation forced the city to post signs alerting drivers to the existence of the cameras as well as requiring all towns to send 50 percent of their camera-derived income to the state's coffers. "
 
I'm all for the red-light cameras. Although I haven't seen any studies yet about how traffic collisions have gone down, I can see with the naked eye the lack of "gridlock" in these intersections. No one dares to ever turn on red legally (including me !) I'm sure there will be some that will try and cheat the system, but overall I think it's a really good idea as long as the guidelines are met.
 
Thanks for the warnings. Last time I was through there there was not 1 but 2. Why is Woodbury cop central? There are hundred other Irvine streets with the same speeding bmws.



The only thing I can see is that woodbury uses an artery system (which i like). Other older Irvine neighborhoods use more of a peer system...all streets equal. Not really safer at all (kids running out between cars), but I bet these older neighborhoods are harder to do line of sight from behind a tree. lol
 
[quote author="Trooper" date=1208262434]I'm all for the red-light cameras. Although I haven't seen any studies yet about how traffic collisions have gone down, I can see with the naked eye the lack of "gridlock" in these intersections. No one dares to ever turn on red legally (including me !) I'm sure there will be some that will try and cheat the system, but overall I think it's a really good idea as long as the guidelines are met.</blockquote>


There is a way to "cheat" the system. I call it the "Cry Wolf" scenario. Just spoof the camera and sensors into taking pictures of everybody.... That would put a VERY quick end to the camera system.... Unfortunately its probably illegal (tampering with traffic systems, as well as FCC regulations, safety infractions, etc. etc. etc. - overall not a good time. )



But not exactly fool proof.



To me, its just WAY easier to wait out the yellow light.



-bix
 
This is an APB: The officers are now enforcing the speed limit. One officer was at the corner of Long Meadow and Vintage at approx. 0700 hr. with his radar gun. Thank goodness I had my morning coffee and was alert. I saw him about a half mile away with his radar gun pointed at my car. Yes, sir. I stepped on the brake pedal.



By the way, the speed limit is 25 mph. My freeway commute is about 15 min. But once I get into the community with this 25 mph speed limit. It took me longer to get to my home vs. my freeway commute.
 
<blockquote>This is an APB: The officers are now enforcing the speed limit. One officer was at the corner of Long Meadow and Vintage at approx. 0700 hr. with his radar gun.</blockquote>


Wow! I guess it's a good thing I got my trusty Valentine1--saved me many of times on the Toll Road. Though flying through stop signs and racing down neighborhood streets with plenty of kids around is not a good idea. 25 mph is plenty fast for Woodbury, although it is kind of mean to catch you as you just come in the main drive of the community as opposed to the inner streets.
 
<blockquote>Was is a RADAR or Laser? Just, you know, an idle question.....-bix </blockquote>


Since it was on a local street it must have been a Irvine PD officer. I know CHP has both Ka and Laser--mostly Ka radar on the highways and toll roads. Never seen a local IPD with laser. Anyone else knows?
 
[quote author="IACRenter" date=1210814519]<blockquote>Was is a RADAR or Laser? Just, you know, an idle question.....-bix </blockquote>


Since it was on a local street it must have been a Irvine PD officer. I know CHP has both Ka and Laser--mostly Ka radar on the highways and toll roads. Never seen a local IPD with laser. Anyone else knows?</blockquote>


It was a big clunker. So must have been the old radar gun. I have to say the officer was nice enough to be in full view. Kind of like saying this is a "fair warning". Next time, I'll be in hiding. :-)
 
I wonder if some local residents, or a member/agent of the Woodbury HOA complained to the IPD... resulting in the police presence... while I am in favor of a police presence - to deter real crime - I get suspicious of whether many police measures are really a veiled form of revenue generation. (eg. the red light cameras - which are clearly about revenue generation).



Does anyone know if the police blotters OR the woodbury HOA (or the other new HOA's for that matter) have been keeping statistics on crimes like burglary, etc? Or if anyone here knows if the crime statistics are comparable with other more established communities...?
 
<blockquote>Just one extra post to see if 250 got me out of the IAC rental? I guess not. =(</blockquote>


Well at least you got your own place. I am stuck at home with the parents ;-)
 
[quote author="IACRenter" date=1210855928]<blockquote>Just one extra post to see if 250 got me out of the IAC rental? I guess not. =(</blockquote>


Well at least you got your own place. I am stuck at home with the parents ;-)</blockquote>


Hahaha! It's okay guys. I might live in a McMansion. But my wallet is empty. :lol:
 
[quote author="GrewUpInIrvine" date=1210854451]Does anyone know if the police blotters OR the woodbury HOA (or the other new HOA's for that matter) have been keeping statistics on crimes like burglary, etc? Or if anyone here knows if the crime statistics are comparable with other more established communities...?</blockquote>


i get neighborhood watch emails and read the meeting minutes from the HOA. although i've seen nothing in particular, there's always general grumbling in the neighborhood about speeding and rolling stops. the big trend recently has been theft of catalytic converters from some toyota truck models and also people stealing the copper fittings from fire valves.
 
Yeah, over where I work, two (insert nationality here) were caught in broad daylight snatching the catalytic converter from a 4-runner. They go for the 4x4 because you don't have to jack them up.
 
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