Columbus Grove: why live there

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I always enter the District from Warner so there has never been a problem with traffic. And yes, I do notice some traffic congestions in certain areas, but I think Vestar wants to create the perception of the place being busier than it is. Anyhow, the Diamond Jamboree Plaza is now opened. I'm heading to Tokyo Table tonight to take advantage of their Grand Opening promotion.
 
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as long one is not bothered by the ridicules when their kids will be humiliated by living on the wrong size of the track. The culture is Irvine is all about brandings and matching up with the Joneses</blockquote>


That doesn't make sense. There are million dollar homes in CG and there are POS weird ass condos in woodbury. Living in one 'neighborhood or the other' doesn't matter to kids.</blockquote>
Bobby: Hey check out my huge house, I have a giant playroom and my room has its own potty!

Freddie: But you also have a $9k Mello Roos, land toxicity, a poorly planned neighborhood and you live in Tustin.

Bobby: I'm telling my daddy!</blockquote>


That is funny but so true. Even Shady Canyon has the Irvine side and Newport side. The West side of the golfcourse are the Elites while the Irvine side with several production projects tainted the purity of being all super rich. People compare their bags, cars, homes, neighborhoods, kids' school, kids' grades, kids' college admissions, and everything else. Get real !! The culture of Irvine and Newport is contagious. Status is everything. I made a living from studying this and it is not going away. The sense of feeling like second class in Columbus one will eventually move just like West Irvinites upgrading to another neighborhood.</blockquote>


bkshopr, i had some odd respect for your opinion ad input in plenty of posts, but you are loosing it on this one... not sure what your agenda is or who brainwashed you... the culture of irvine is comparing handbags... oh boy



you pointed out to a lot of other people, that they are definding there village, may it be VoC or any other non-irvine community, but you sure are on a roll trying hard to sell your McMansions where you can look at your neighbor taking a shower...



you have some connection to irvine, regardless your posts are just becoming entertaining instead of informative, sorry you lost me...</blockquote>


Sorry. I do not sell or like McMansions. I don't own one and will never own one. I do not live or work in Irvine.



You may not be from Irvine and definitely not Newport. You are a guy and do have a clue about handbags.</blockquote>


i have a man-purse, does that count ?
 
[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1221656234][quote author="bkshopr" date=1221652571]Architects and engineers design site plans and roads with a top view perspective. Everything is clear from the top view when one could see the entire context like the key map that AsianInvasion posted.



It looks absolutely normal until one experiences the layout from the driver seat. When speed is fast a bend or the swerve could become fatal. Architects often design with aesthetic in mind thinking the meandering roads are prettier. Architects were not trained as traffic and road engineers. Perkowitz Ruth Architects who designed Legacy also designed Riverwalk in Fresno another nightmare with curving streets and mis-alignments.</blockquote>


You should see Riverwalk at Christmas. It's enough to make you want to switch to Judaism.</blockquote>


NoVas,



Are you from Fresno? You posted about the Decayed Downtown that never really recovered ? I am surprised to hear you know about that area. The area by Fig Garden you posted something about it as well. I am impressed. The migrant farmworkers in the area for the last 80 years in my opinion stumbled Fresno from reaching its potential. There are many mixed-use projects on the board. It is never too late to see a struggling city wanting to grow. Cal State Merced started just a little while ago and hope that will strenthen the education institution of our agricultural central valley.
 
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as long one is not bothered by the ridicules when their kids will be humiliated by living on the wrong size of the track. The culture is Irvine is all about brandings and matching up with the Joneses</blockquote>


That doesn't make sense. There are million dollar homes in CG and there are POS weird ass condos in woodbury. Living in one 'neighborhood or the other' doesn't matter to kids.</blockquote>
Bobby: Hey check out my huge house, I have a giant playroom and my room has its own potty!

Freddie: But you also have a $9k Mello Roos, land toxicity, a poorly planned neighborhood and you live in Tustin.

Bobby: I'm telling my daddy!</blockquote>


That is funny but so true. Even Shady Canyon has the Irvine side and Newport side. The West side of the golfcourse are the Elites while the Irvine side with several production projects tainted the purity of being all super rich. People compare their bags, cars, homes, neighborhoods, kids' school, kids' grades, kids' college admissions, and everything else. Get real !! The culture of Irvine and Newport is contagious. Status is everything. I made a living from studying this and it is not going away. The sense of feeling like second class in Columbus one will eventually move just like West Irvinites upgrading to another neighborhood.</blockquote>


bkshopr, i had some odd respect for your opinion ad input in plenty of posts, but you are loosing it on this one... not sure what your agenda is or who brainwashed you... the culture of irvine is comparing handbags... oh boy



you pointed out to a lot of other people, that they are definding there village, may it be VoC or any other non-irvine community, but you sure are on a roll trying hard to sell your McMansions where you can look at your neighbor taking a shower...



you have some connection to irvine, regardless your posts are just becoming entertaining instead of informative, sorry you lost me...</blockquote>


Sorry. I do not sell or like McMansions. I don't own one and will never own one. I do not live or work in Irvine.



You may not be from Irvine and definitely not Newport. You are a guy and do have a clue about handbags.</blockquote>


i have a man-purse, does that count ?</blockquote>


Then you also have "Moob" and carry a "Murse". These are actual terms.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1221717797]

Then you also have "Moob" and carry a "Murse". These are actual terms.</blockquote>
Moob doesn't always equal murse.... there are many non-moobers who have murses.
 
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as long one is not bothered by the ridicules when their kids will be humiliated by living on the wrong size of the track. The culture is Irvine is all about brandings and matching up with the Joneses</blockquote>


That doesn't make sense. There are million dollar homes in CG and there are POS weird ass condos in woodbury. Living in one 'neighborhood or the other' doesn't matter to kids.</blockquote>
Bobby: Hey check out my huge house, I have a giant playroom and my room has its own potty!

Freddie: But you also have a $9k Mello Roos, land toxicity, a poorly planned neighborhood and you live in Tustin.

Bobby: I'm telling my daddy!</blockquote>


That is funny but so true. Even Shady Canyon has the Irvine side and Newport side. The West side of the golfcourse are the Elites while the Irvine side with several production projects tainted the purity of being all super rich. People compare their bags, cars, homes, neighborhoods, kids' school, kids' grades, kids' college admissions, and everything else. Get real !! The culture of Irvine and Newport is contagious. Status is everything. I made a living from studying this and it is not going away. The sense of feeling like second class in Columbus one will eventually move just like West Irvinites upgrading to another neighborhood.</blockquote>


bkshopr, i had some odd respect for your opinion ad input in plenty of posts, but you are loosing it on this one... not sure what your agenda is or who brainwashed you... the culture of irvine is comparing handbags... oh boy



you pointed out to a lot of other people, that they are definding there village, may it be VoC or any other non-irvine community, but you sure are on a roll trying hard to sell your McMansions where you can look at your neighbor taking a shower...



you have some connection to irvine, regardless your posts are just becoming entertaining instead of informative, sorry you lost me...</blockquote>


Sorry. I do not sell or like McMansions. I don't own one and will never own one. I do not live or work in Irvine.



You may not be from Irvine and definitely not Newport. You are a guy and do have a clue about handbags.</blockquote>


i have a man-purse, does that count ?</blockquote>


Then you also have "Moob" and carry a "Murse". These are actual terms.</blockquote>


i just told you i had a murse, but as long as i run those sub 3:10 marathon's my moobs are muscle not fat
 
[quote author="flmgrip" date=1221713411][quote author="bkshopr" date=1221650207][quote author="flmgrip" date=1221648758][quote author="bkshopr" date=1221622683][quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1221620169][quote author="25w100k+" date=1221617287][quote author="bkshopr" date=1221614375]

as long one is not bothered by the ridicules when their kids will be humiliated by living on the wrong size of the track. The culture is Irvine is all about brandings and matching up with the Joneses</blockquote>


That doesn't make sense. There are million dollar homes in CG and there are POS weird ass condos in woodbury. Living in one 'neighborhood or the other' doesn't matter to kids.</blockquote>
Bobby: Hey check out my huge house, I have a giant playroom and my room has its own potty!

Freddie: But you also have a $9k Mello Roos, land toxicity, a poorly planned neighborhood and you live in Tustin.

Bobby: I'm telling my daddy!</blockquote>


That is funny but so true. Even Shady Canyon has the Irvine side and Newport side. The West side of the golfcourse are the Elites while the Irvine side with several production projects tainted the purity of being all super rich. People compare their bags, cars, homes, neighborhoods, kids' school, kids' grades, kids' college admissions, and everything else. Get real !! The culture of Irvine and Newport is contagious. Status is everything. I made a living from studying this and it is not going away. The sense of feeling like second class in Columbus one will eventually move just like West Irvinites upgrading to another neighborhood.</blockquote>


bkshopr, i had some odd respect for your opinion ad input in plenty of posts, but you are loosing it on this one... not sure what your agenda is or who brainwashed you... the culture of irvine is comparing handbags... oh boy



you pointed out to a lot of other people, that they are definding there village, may it be VoC or any other non-irvine community, but you sure are on a roll trying hard to sell your McMansions where you can look at your neighbor taking a shower...



you have some connection to irvine, regardless your posts are just becoming entertaining instead of informative, sorry you lost me...</blockquote>


Sorry. I do not sell or like McMansions. I don't own one and will never own one. I do not live or work in Irvine.



You may not be from Irvine and definitely not Newport. You are a guy and do have a clue about handbags.</blockquote>


i have a man-purse, does that count ?</blockquote>


Handbag 101:



Go to South Coast Plaza by the Nordstrom wing and stand there for 15 minutes. There should be around 250 customers per 15 minutes walking by carrying exotic handbags. Coach is not in the league and it is the Asian frugal brand bag. (This is the reason why Seggerstrom buried the Coach store by the Saks wing along with Vie Die France ) The Asians talked too loud and the line of rowdy Asian customers at Vie Die France ruined the elegant ambiance next to Van Cleef and Hermes.



Count how many LV, Hermes, Prada, Chanel, and Gucci bags the women are carrying. Korean and Vietnamese you do not count because their LV?s are fakes.



LV should be the majority of the bags and Hermes in the minority and Gucci somewhere in the middle.



This method is to determine product location placement in optimizing store branding exposure. Tenant mix and store positioning are crucial for retail success. The most expensive shops should always be the closest to the Valet parking structure. Trophy wives often get a certain spending budget from their older successful husband. They often spent more than 50% at the first store and spend less at the subsequent ones. Cheaper stores are located toward the end of their path. This is why Chanel and Hermes anchor the main entrance to the Valet parking structure. The Carousel is positioned at the end of the path so the children must behave while mommy is shopping in order to ride.



Hope this will enrich your knowledge.



I also hope you know what LV is if you want to buy a home in Irvine.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1221720002]

I also hope you know what LV is if you want to buy a home in Irvine.</blockquote>
Lou Verigno?

Lance Varmstrong?

Leonard Vimoy?
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1221720499][quote author="bkshopr" date=1221720002]

I also hope you know what LV is if you want to buy a home in Irvine.</blockquote>
Lou Verigno?

Lance Varmstrong?

Leonard Vimoy?</blockquote>


Do you really live in Irvine?
 
While I was waiting to contribute something of true value for my first post,,, I have lived in Irvine many years,

am a glow in the dark fair skinned white and wouldn't be caught dead carrying a real designer purse in or

around South Coast Plaza. It's a pick pocket's dream. Love the Handbag 101 post. LMAO!
 
At the end of the day, I'm not sure if it really matters or is necessary that home buyers who purchased in Columbus Grove justify their reasoning behind it.



For all we know, those people who purchased a single family or townhome did it because they put in many years of hard work, saved what they could, visited the models one day, and fell in love with a particular unit. Sure there are reasons why they shouldn't have bought there, but...if it doesn't matter to them, then what's wrong with it? Sure it may have been a bad investment at the time, and they may have lost money in that deal, but why do we buy anything that's on such a large scale such as a home? In the end, they are now homeowners, they can return to a place every night after work that they can truly call their own, and whether you're sitting in your back yard or slaving away at work, its still a different feeling to own a home.



Maybe they really liked the floor plan. Or the location, or that it's Irvine school district. Or that its close to albertsons and target. Heck, even if there's a fire hydrant directly in front of their house and they feel safer that way. Who are we to judge? It's not our money they're spending.



i think for those that bought in columbus grove, or woodbury, or paseo westpark, or santa ana, or san francisco, congratulations to you. You've done better than a lot of Americans, or should I say, people in the world.



Every community has its ups and downs. Would you rather live in Portola and risk your house burning down every October? People should be able to spend their hard earned money however they choose, and it definitely shouldn't be up to us to judge them how they spend it.



To each their own.
 
I should also add, that the fine line to my argument is for those that purchased a home when they could not afford it. That is misjudgement on their part. But I think it's safe to say that they are now paying the price for that.



My message is for those that purchased a home, knew what they were doing, and could it afford it.
 
[quote author="pattie917" date=1221721210]While I was waiting to contribute something of true value for my first post,,, I have lived in Irvine many years,

am a glow in the dark fair skinned white and wouldn't be caught dead carrying a real designer purse in or

around South Coast Plaza. It's a pick pocket's dream. Love the Handbag 101 post. LMAO!</blockquote>


Welcome Pattie,



Cameras are everywhere is South Coast Plaza to minimize thieves. The best prevention is still your hand on the purse. Hope to see more of you. You do not have to contribute valuable writings. Some of the posters in this thread didn't. I like your avatar. It is the Hudson River by Upstate during the fall?
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1221721840][quote author="pattie917" date=1221721210]While I was waiting to contribute something of true value for my first post,,, I have lived in Irvine many years,

am a glow in the dark fair skinned white and wouldn't be caught dead carrying a real designer purse in or

around South Coast Plaza. It's a pick pocket's dream. Love the Handbag 101 post. LMAO!</blockquote>


Welcome Pattie,



Cameras are everywhere is South Coast Plaza to minimize thieves. The best prevention is still your hand on the purse. Hope to see more of you. You do not have to contribute valuable writings. Some of the posters in this thread didn't. I like your avatar. It is the Hudson River by Upstate during the fall?</blockquote>


Hey Pattie. I have to agree with the venerable bk. I rarely contribute anything of value and still feel welcomed here.



Speaking of adding no value, I learned last night that the hole in a wine barrel is called a bung hole. Why hadn't anyone told me this yet?! Seems like something Graph should have apprised me of long ago...
 
[quote author="ipoplaya" date=1221723299][quote author="bkshopr" date=1221721840][quote author="pattie917" date=1221721210]While I was waiting to contribute something of true value for my first post,,, I have lived in Irvine many years,

am a glow in the dark fair skinned white and wouldn't be caught dead carrying a real designer purse in or

around South Coast Plaza. It's a pick pocket's dream. Love the Handbag 101 post. LMAO!</blockquote>


Welcome Pattie,



Cameras are everywhere is South Coast Plaza to minimize thieves. The best prevention is still your hand on the purse. Hope to see more of you. You do not have to contribute valuable writings. Some of the posters in this thread didn't. I like your avatar. It is the Hudson River by Upstate during the fall?</blockquote>


Hey Pattie. I have to agree with the venerable bk. I rarely contribute anything of value and still feel welcomed here.



Speaking of adding no value, I learned last night that the hole in a wine barrel is called a bung hole. Why hadn't anyone told me this yet?! Seems like something Graph should have apprised me of long ago...</blockquote>


I like this trivia. What about a hole in a public toilet partition?
 
[quote author="ipoplaya" date=1221723299][quote author="bkshopr" date=1221721840][quote author="pattie917" date=1221721210]While I was waiting to contribute something of true value for my first post,,, I have lived in Irvine many years,

am a glow in the dark fair skinned white and wouldn't be caught dead carrying a real designer purse in or

around South Coast Plaza. It's a pick pocket's dream. Love the Handbag 101 post. LMAO!</blockquote>


Welcome Pattie,



Cameras are everywhere is South Coast Plaza to minimize thieves. The best prevention is still your hand on the purse. Hope to see more of you. You do not have to contribute valuable writings. Some of the posters in this thread didn't. I like your avatar. It is the Hudson River by Upstate during the fall?</blockquote>


Hey Pattie. I have to agree with the venerable bk. I rarely contribute anything of value and still feel welcomed here.



Speaking of adding no value, I learned last night that the hole in a wine barrel is called a bung hole. Why hadn't anyone told me this yet?! Seems like something Graph should have apprised me of long ago...</blockquote>


Speaking of bung holes... welcome to the party, AZDave.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1221720649][quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1221720499][quote author="bkshopr" date=1221720002]

I also hope you know what LV is if you want to buy a home in Irvine.</blockquote>
Lou Verigno?

Lance Varmstrong?

Leonard Vimoy?</blockquote>


Do you really live in Irvine?</blockquote>


f... no, not even close. i thought you figured that out by now...
 
[quote author="IrvineRealtor" date=1221728269]Speaking of bung holes... welcome to the party, AZDave.</blockquote>


We know you're lurking AZ... We're got the welcome wagon all ready for you.
 
[quote author="flmgrip" date=1221732038][quote author="bkshopr" date=1221720649][quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1221720499][quote author="bkshopr" date=1221720002]

I also hope you know what LV is if you want to buy a home in Irvine.</blockquote>
Lou Verigno?

Lance Varmstrong?

Leonard Vimoy?</blockquote>


Do you really live in Irvine?</blockquote>


f... no, not even close. i thought you figured that out by now...</blockquote>
Huh? I don't? How come bk can bring up this "murse" and "moob" sillyness yet I can't wax sarcastic about what LV means?



EDIT: Wait... misquote confusaramus here... yes I do live in Irvine... flmgrip does not.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1221713421][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1221656234][quote author="bkshopr" date=1221652571]Architects and engineers design site plans and roads with a top view perspective. Everything is clear from the top view when one could see the entire context like the key map that AsianInvasion posted.



It looks absolutely normal until one experiences the layout from the driver seat. When speed is fast a bend or the swerve could become fatal. Architects often design with aesthetic in mind thinking the meandering roads are prettier. Architects were not trained as traffic and road engineers. Perkowitz Ruth Architects who designed Legacy also designed Riverwalk in Fresno another nightmare with curving streets and mis-alignments.</blockquote>


You should see Riverwalk at Christmas. It's enough to make you want to switch to Judaism.</blockquote>


NoVas,



Are you from Fresno? You posted about the Decayed Downtown that never really recovered ? I am surprised to hear you know about that area. The area by Fig Garden you posted something about it as well. I am impressed. The migrant farmworkers in the area for the last 80 years in my opinion stumbled Fresno from reaching its potential. There are many mixed-use projects on the board. It is never too late to see a struggling city wanting to grow. Cal State Merced started just a little while ago and hope that will strenthen the education institution of our agricultural central valley.</blockquote>


Thank you for your kind words. You are very close. I'm from a small farming town between Fresno and Bakersfield. I did live there for several years.



Fresno has the worst city planning in the whole San Joaquin/Sacramento valley. The developers have come up with one plan for redevelopment after another without success, placating the city council as they plan the next urban sprawl monstrosity on the North side of town. Since the 1980s after Fulton Mall disintegrated in the matter of 7 or 8 years, there has been one redevelopment plan after another.



First, downtown got a Comedy Club and Club One Casino. Then they got the Fresno Grizzleys minor league baseball team. Then they got some mixed use development in a downtown high rise that used to be Guarantee Savings. Whatever. It will fail miserably. With the exception of Fig Garden, the only good neighborhood to live in Fresno is the newest one, and it's on the North side of town. It will be interesting to see what happens now that they have developed out to the river and can't 'sprawl it up' anymore. Where will the 'nice' neighborhoods be now? Fresno has never been an infill town. Nobody wants to move into those ?bad? neighborhoods.



The migrant farm worker didn't stunt Fresno (by comparison to the local surrounding towns). Fresno's problem is industry. Agriculture is a necessary evil when it comes to society (everybody likes to eat) but the jobs it creates are the lowest paying and brutally difficult to do. You may be aware of this study by Columbia University. My hometown voting district came in dead last in education opportunities, per capita income, life expectancy, and health care.



<a href="http://cup.columbia.edu/book/978-0-231-15494-9/the-measure-of-america">http://cup.columbia.edu/book/978-0-231-15494-9/the-measure-of-america</a>



This is a link to my "hometown" newspaper that made me aware of the Columbia University study. I grew up ten miles from town on a small family farm.



<a href="http://www.hanfordsentinel.com/articles/2008/07/29/news/doc488f5919d62b1072221873.txt">http://www.hanfordsentinel.com/articles/2008/07/29/news/doc488f5919d62b1072221873.txt</a>



They have tried for 40 years to get/retain non agriculture jobs. We had an oil refinery that closed. They had a tire plant that closed. They had some light manufacturing, none of which made it. It is a farming area, with it's second biggest industry being "Government Sanctioned Hospitality." Okay, CDC prisons.



The valley is littered with small towns that had vibrant communities in the 1950's and 1960's. I can think of one that as recently as 1978 had a bakery, three grocery stores, two tractor dealerships, five gas stations, a couple of hardware stores, a butcher, three restaurants, a doctor, a couple of cotton gins...........in a town with about 4,500 people. Today it has what is left of one tractor dealership (that will likely be defunct in the next 18 months), a single convenience store, and a ton of empty decaying storefronts waiting to fall down as they decay away. Unfortunately, it's not the only one that fits that description.



I don?t buy the argument what is lacking there is educational opportunities. IMO, the problem is opportunities of all kinds. There really is no ?there? there. All of my friends from high school left shortly after graduation, never to return. I slugged it out for another ten years, drinking the kool aid that education was the solution, driving 3 hours twice a week to do a MBA in the evenings.



It proved totally useless in the area. Advancement is made in that area by going to work somewhere and waiting for somebody to retire so you can replace them. Note the number of college grads in the survey, the lowest of anywhere in the US. This isn't because of lack of educational oppourtinities. Most of those college grads are K-12 schoolteachers.



I attended the graduation of my brother a couple of years ago from Fresno State. The keynote speakers' speach was on retaining the graduates of Fresno State in the local area, rather than lose them to the 'brain drain' of Norcal and Socal. It was thunderous. Everyone in the audience ignored it.



The ?solution? for me was when my wife applied to all the Civil Engineering programs in California, and was accepted to every one. None exist in the Valley. She chose Pomona. We left. I still have business interests in the area, and have mixed feelings on the issue.



So when I say that the Villages of Columbus is a shithole, trust me. I know what one looks like.



<img src="http://wellaninc.com/images/scan0001.jpg" alt="" />



BTW, not to pick nits, but Merced got a UC.
 
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