Can I send my kids to IUSD schools using my rental home address?

[iacrenter]

You can probably get away with this but do you really want your kid to lie for you?

There is a reason why workers at amusement parks ask the child and NOT the parents how old they are for rides. Parents LIE all time.

It made me sad to see a dad chew out his daughter recently at a Big Bear tubing park. He was upset when the daughter told staff the truth and said she was 8 years old (you need to buy a ticket if your child is older than 6 years). The staff rightfully requested they leave the tubing area and purchase another ticket. The poor girl was almost in tears.

 

[eyephone]

And what address  do you have them memorize when they need to know their address for school?

Of course, they'll have to memorize the address in Irvine.  That's easy for any Asian kid.  ;D  New homes would be like 2-3 numbers + name of street + Irvine, CA and 5 more numbers for zip code.  Not complicated....  My 4 year old nephew knows how to spell all the names of the people in our family...

Alright, I'm glad I asked.  I ain't got kids yet, but I'm just curious.  I know of lots of relatives and friends back in the 90s that sent their kids to different school districts and lived elsewhere.  The school districts didn't check (physically).

I'm not worried about the tenant ratting me out.  I will always rent to mainland people and pay them hush money.  Our people like that.

You don't have a kid. So why are you asking the question? Is your gf pregnant? (Baby mama)
Are your friends in your circle doing this, and your asking around?

I know many friends/relatives doing this in other cities in LA county and they're getting away with it.  So yes, my question is whether or not Irvine USD is vigilant in sending out contract investigators and knocking on doors.  I've heard of school districts doing this but nobody ever talks about it happening to them where somebody answers the door and are asked a series of question.

I'm just trying to picture for myself, a guy walks up in a suit and tie and knocks and says:

1.  Hi Are you "Mr. Huang?" <-- you should have no reason to answer this question.  Unless he's a mailman, UPS, Fedex and he's got a package for you.
2.  Do you have kids? <-- again, you don't owe him a response
3.  How many kids do you have?
4. Are the kids home?  <-- now that's a pedophile question to ask if he does ask
5. Do your kids go to Irvine USD? 

So you see what I'm saying... like these are pretty creepy and suspect questions and the door needs to be closed on him by question #2.

But somebody already said, yes they are knocking on doors and doing this.  So that answers the question.  Now the discussion turns into:

What right do they have to have you answer the door and their questions?  You have every right to close the door on them.  They will have no legal right to eject your kid from the school with the basis that you refused to answer their questions at the door.  How is one able to identify who this person is and why the homeowner would reveal intimate details about how many kids he has, are they home, confirming where they live?  What if he's a pedophile? 

Is this person going to wear a badge and shirt that says "IUSD" district employee?  It would totally make sense if they send an OC Sheriff to verify (super unlikely right??).  Even then, Miranda rights allows you to remain silent and without a warrant, the door can be shut.  Okay, so then judge is going to issue a bench warrant to enter a home to verify the kids are home and if they're not, they'll arrest the homeowner.  Right....

Somebody separate reality from fantasy here.  Where is the line drawn?

https://www.iusd.org/ab/documents/ResidencyVerification-AffidavitForm2015-16.pdf

Look at page 4

The district may forward your info to the DA office. There is a fine and it prison up to 4 years. Kicked out of the district. Also, you might have to pay for the charges for the investigation.

I think this anwers your questions. Lol

 

[irvinehomeowner]

This is called "The BkShoppr Maneuver".

 

[YellowFever]

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[eyephone]

https://www.iusd.org/ab/documents/ResidencyVerification-AffidavitForm2015-16.pdf

Look at page 4

The district may forward your info to the DA office. There is a fine and it prison up to 4 years. Kicked out of the district. Also, you might have to pay for the charges for the investigation.

I think this anwers your questions. Lol

Thank you! This was exactly what I was looking for.  (no sarcasm).  I like how people present facts.  This could have gotten to a 10-page argument with 'nosuchreality' and inability to cite a source.

Now to answer your question, I have a fiance now.  Getting married this year.  Yeah, she could get knocked up any moment.  And yes, that's why i'm asking other questions like what other home developments are happening in Irvine in the next 2-5 yrs so I can consider options.

I have to weigh my options and do risk assessment about our future.  I intend to buy a second home with all the money we'll make from the wedding and savings.

So my baby mama remark was spot on. I guess the correct term is potential baby mama. jk

 

[YellowFever]

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[eyephone]

https://www.iusd.org/ab/documents/ResidencyVerification-AffidavitForm2015-16.pdf

Look at page 4

The district may forward your info to the DA office. There is a fine and it prison up to 4 years. Kicked out of the district. Also, you might have to pay for the charges for the investigation.

I think this anwers your questions. Lol

Thank you! This was exactly what I was looking for.  (no sarcasm).  I like how people present facts.  This could have gotten to a 10-page argument with 'nosuchreality' and inability to cite a source.

Now to answer your question, I have a fiance now.  Getting married this year.  Yeah, she could get knocked up any moment.  And yes, that's why i'm asking other questions like what other home developments are happening in Irvine in the next 2-5 yrs so I can consider options.  These are all reasonable questions for an up-and-coming father, husband, does it not??  Nothing here is a joke.  This is all a serious matter.

I have to weigh my options and do risk assessment about our future.  I intend to buy a second home with all the money we'll make from the wedding and savings.

So how much money do you plan to make from the wedding? (Gross = money received, or net = money received minus expenses) I guess the expenses depends where you going to have it. (Asian restaurant or hotel or banquet hall) Or your wife's family going to pay for it)

 

[YellowFever]

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[eyephone]

So how much money do you plan to make from the wedding? (Gross = money received, or net = money received minus expenses) I guess the expenses depends where you going to have it. (Asian restaurant or hotel or banquet hall) Or your wife's family going to pay for it)

eyephone - I like how I can have a meaningful adult conversation with you.    I don't like to brag about myself but if you have to ask, then I'll tell.  Before I get into the detail, you must first understand and be schooled a little bit about how Chinese culture/tradition works.  (I assume you may or may not be Chinese).  I'll keep this very short for you. 

1. Chinese people care about face.  If I show up to your wedding or your kids wedding, you best come to my wedding or my kids wedding and drop the dough! 
2. Immediate blood relatives are expected to drop more (in the thousands $.  This is normal)
3. Only American people in their 20s-30s who are raised here stick to the standard $100 / per person gift.
4. You know there are always those uncles who will drop serious dough    We got two of those. 
5. Chinese Parents will drop the biggest dough in gifts.
6. You don't have much say about who your parents will or will not invite.  But they will certainly not invite cheapskates.  They will invite people you've never met or even your old nanny who took care of you when you were 5.
7. Our families are expected to fly from Taiwan, Hong Kong, New Jersey, SF, NYC, just to attend. 

I work in the engineering industry.  If anything, engineers are cheap.  I am selectively choosing who I invite.  I tend to invite those who are married and more settled, than the typical 4 year out of college co-worker.  So my side of the head count is low.  I want to minimize loss on my side.  But I assume my side of the friends will just pay $50 per head.  I'm being conservative.

Secondly, we are doing Chinese Banquet wedding in San Gabriel Area. You know, they like to sell tables with the numbers 8 in it.  Like $388, $468, $688, $888, $1388.  We are doing the $888 one.  ;D ;D

We are paying for the wedding banquet, BUT her parents are paying all the other miscellaneous wedding expenses.  (Dresses, jewelry, bridesmaids stuff, dinner parties, bridal shower, alterations, you name it, etc)

So finally, I bring you the math.  Head count is a very standard 200 people.  The ones with the asterisks next to it could fluctuate.  But the other ones we're VERY confident that those amounts will stick.  Our parents have already told us, we can take the money ANYTIME.  But I told them, we prefer to take it afterwards out of respect. 

Sure there are other minor costs, flowers, DJ, etc..  We have friends doing those for us for free.  I truly love the 626 when it comes to cheap.

Oh well, this money will end up in the hands of the Irvine Company for their overpriced SFH.

Nice breakdown. I "think" you can reduce one if your expenses if you pay in cash? Lol

 

[YellowFever]

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[qwerty]

Jizz - what you described is a good bachelor party, You left out the hookers and cocaine, that will make it a great bachelor party

 

[YellowFever]

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[eyephone]

Jizz - what you described is a good bachelor party, You left out the hookers and cocaine, that will make it a great bachelor party

Hah, that is indeed a great party except I'm not into coke or dirty hookers.  Might catch something that wont "stay in Vegas".  My buds and I are 24-36 year olds.  I think we still got "game" at the nightclubs.  And it is spring break weekend after all, so we're counting on those slutty ASU girls 

#Vega$$

 

[freedomcm]

No way any banquet wedding pays a 22% "service fee"

 

[YellowFever]

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[pricedoutJay]

Thank you! This was exactly what I was looking for.  (no sarcasm).  I like how people present facts.  This could have gotten to a 10-page argument with 'nosuchreality' and inability to cite a source.

Magic you knew the "fact" which was you can't send your future kids to schools in Irvine when you live in Lake Forest... You just wanted to know if you could lie and get a way with... giving all Chineses bad name... shame on you... If I were your fianc?, I would think twice about getting married to you... "others are cheating and getting away with... others are not paying tax and getting away with....  Kids do whatever you can, even lying and cheating to get ahead!!! "  yeah, real Chinese culture values...  You are messed up and so is everyone else who think this way.  Education is what you as a parent raising your kids with right values, not sending them to schools by forgery and making things up...

 

[eyephone]

Thank you! This was exactly what I was looking for.  (no sarcasm).  I like how people present facts.  This could have gotten to a 10-page argument with 'nosuchreality' and inability to cite a source.

Magic you knew the "fact" which was you can't send your future kids to schools in Irvine when you live in Lake Forest... You just wanted to know if you could lie and get a way with... giving all Chineses bad name... shame on you... If I were your fianc?, I would think twice about getting married to you... "others are cheating and getting away with... others are not paying tax and getting away with....  Kids do whatever you can, even lying and cheating to get ahead!!! "  yeah, real Chinese culture values...  You are messed up and so is everyone else who think this way.  Education is what you as a parent raising your kids with right values, not sending them to schools by forgery and making things up...

#kindofharsh

 

[Happiness]

Thank you! This was exactly what I was looking for.  (no sarcasm).  I like how people present facts.  This could have gotten to a 10-page argument with 'nosuchreality' and inability to cite a source.

Magic you knew the "fact" which was you can't send your future kids to schools in Irvine when you live in Lake Forest... You just wanted to know if you could lie and get a way with... giving all Chineses bad name... shame on you... If I were your fianc?, I would think twice about getting married to you... "others are cheating and getting away with... others are not paying tax and getting away with....  Kids do whatever you can, even lying and cheating to get ahead!!! "  yeah, real Chinese culture values...  You are messed up and so is everyone else who think this way.  Education is what you as a parent raising your kids with right values, not sending them to schools by forgery and making things up...

Cheating to get ahead, while not a part of traditional Chinese culture, after 65 years of upheavals by the Chinese Communist Party where you have to do anything to stay alive (morality be dammed), has created a mindset where cheating is considered a fundamental human right: 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ese-teachers-try-to-stop-pupils-cheating.html

 

[eyephone]

Thank you! This was exactly what I was looking for.  (no sarcasm).  I like how people present facts.  This could have gotten to a 10-page argument with 'nosuchreality' and inability to cite a source.

Magic you knew the "fact" which was you can't send your future kids to schools in Irvine when you live in Lake Forest... You just wanted to know if you could lie and get a way with... giving all Chineses bad name... shame on you... If I were your fianc?, I would think twice about getting married to you... "others are cheating and getting away with... others are not paying tax and getting away with....  Kids do whatever you can, even lying and cheating to get ahead!!! "  yeah, real Chinese culture values...  You are messed up and so is everyone else who think this way.  Education is what you as a parent raising your kids with right values, not sending them to schools by forgery and making things up...

Do you think this a Chinese thing? I think you should drive around Los Angeles.

 

[zubs]

I read your article.  I understand why the parents & students in the article rioted when they could not cheat.  When everyone else in China is cheating on the gaokao, stopping this one highschool from doing it is unfair.

So in Chinese culture, cheating is normal.  If you don't do it, someone else is doing it and you are the fool for following rules.  I'm sure glad they're bringing these values over here.