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[abcd1234]

I have to say, I think the term "Chindian" is really offensive- don't know who thought that up (I think it was Indie) but it is offensive (and i am not Chinese or Indian).  You all refer to Koreans as Korean, or Taiwanese as Taiwanese- why denegrate the other ethnicity. 

There was a thread about Indie asking why someone wouldn't want to like in CDM (or places like the Ports Streets) and it's terms like Chindian that people who are Chinese/Indian, etc don't feel welcome with open arms.

 

[The Motor Court Company]

Also, let's not forget the "parachute kids" phenomenon a few years back...people buying property in the US just to have their kids go to a good school.

that's a good point also. As some one mentioned earlier, in Asia a lot of places there is high school entrance examination to determine which schools you'll go to; money cannot buy high test scores if the kids are dumb.

 

[panda]

Indie came up with the term chindian. I felt left out so came up with the term korchindian.

 

[Irvinecommuter]

Indie came up with the term chindian. I felt left out so came up with the term korchindian.

Korchindian sounds like a great dish to eat...

 

[Irvinecommuter]

Also, let's not forget the "parachute kids" phenomenon a few years back...people buying property in the US just to have their kids go to a good school.

I can count at least 3 houses on my very street (not Irvine) where mom and kids live here in a gated community, and dad is working back in Korea.  My own wife grew up in that situation, except dad was in Taiwan. 

I often wonder, though --- with the recent (and highly publicized) struggles of the US economy and its effect on everything including education, is there a tipping point where we are not as appealing to people from high powered economies like Taiwan and (South) Korea?  I know we will be a magnet for the PRC, because as soon as they their hands on some money they are looking for the exits so the gov't can't take it back.  But I have to assume the US cannot be as big a draw as it once was to Korea and Taiwan?  Much like Japan and Hong Kong before.  They are not even really part of this conversation, you just don't see that many new immigrants from Japan or Hong Kong these days.  I don't blame them.

There's definitely been a drop of in immigration from Taiwan and Korea.  Many are looking to the PRC for their future...Mandarin Chinese is now being taught in Korean schools along with English.  It's a no-brainer for Taiwanese. 

The PRC buyers are very different.  The big money people buy houses in the US because they want to diverse their portfolio.  There is also a restriction on how much money you can invest outside of the PRC (CCP rules)

 

[abcd1234]

I am glad you all aren't bothered by it- I still find it offensive/racist

 

[Irvinecommuter]

Indie came up with the term chindian. I felt left out so came up with the term korchindian.

They call me an egg, and I don't feel offended at all.  Kind of honored, actually.

Well...you do have yellow fever

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Indie came up with the term chindian. I felt left out so came up with the term korchindian.

They call me an egg, and I don't feel offended at all.  Kind of honored, actually.

EggKorChinDian?

You know that leaves out a ton of middle easterners... Persians (not sure what the correct term to encompass that region is nowadays) and Jewish people.

That's why I just use FCB.

 

[Irvinecommuter]

Indie came up with the term chindian. I felt left out so came up with the term korchindian.

They call me an egg, and I don't feel offended at all.  Kind of honored, actually.

EggKorChinDian?

You know that leaves out a ton of middle easterners... Persians (not sure what the correct term to encompass that region is nowadays) and Jewish people.

That's why I just use FCB.

I'll just use...people who have a house and I don't.

 

[IndieDev]

Is somebody going to give me the name of one those Korean blogs already? I want to get some of that FCB money driving up my home value. And those kiddies can attend our school all they want. The more the merrier, as long as they are dropping the green in my 'hood.

Nothing, huh?  Oh well,  I suppose the silence must means those Korean language blogs which discuss the great public schools of Southern California are only a myth, much like a unicorn.  Damn, and here I thought I was on to something.

Yeah they are a myth like $1.2 million dollar pricing strategies.

I've never heard of anything more silly than super rich Chindians moving their entire households overseas just  so they can attend California Public Schools (LOL) when they can afford one on one tutoring from PhDs within their own country who speak PERFECT english. How many IUSD teachers have PhDs? 0.01%? Less?

Honestly, Kalbi must have worked for TIC, or is very delusional about the value of California public schools.

 

[usctrojancpa]

Is somebody going to give me the name of one those Korean blogs already? I want to get some of that FCB money driving up my home value. And those kiddies can attend our school all they want. The more the merrier, as long as they are dropping the green in my 'hood.

Nothing, huh?  Oh well,  I suppose the silence must means those Korean language blogs which discuss the great public schools of Southern California are only a myth, much like a unicorn.  Damn, and here I thought I was on to something.

Yeah they are a myth like $1.2 million dollar pricing strategies.

I've never heard of anything more silly than super rich Chindians moving their entire households overseas just  so they can attend California Public Schools (LOL) when they can afford one on one tutoring from PhDs within their own country who speak PERFECT english. How many IUSD teachers have PhDs? 0.01%? Less?

Honestly, Kalbi must have worked for TIC, or is very delusional about the value of California public schools.

Aren't many of those PhD tutors in China actually Americans?

 

[Irvinecommuter]

Is somebody going to give me the name of one those Korean blogs already? I want to get some of that FCB money driving up my home value. And those kiddies can attend our school all they want. The more the merrier, as long as they are dropping the green in my 'hood.

Nothing, huh?  Oh well,  I suppose the silence must means those Korean language blogs which discuss the great public schools of Southern California are only a myth, much like a unicorn.  Damn, and here I thought I was on to something.

Yeah they are a myth like $1.2 million dollar pricing strategies.

I've never heard of anything more silly than super rich Chindians moving their entire households overseas just  so they can attend California Public Schools (LOL) when they can afford one on one tutoring from PhDs within their own country who speak PERFECT english. How many IUSD teachers have PhDs? 0.01%? Less?

Honestly, Kalbi must have worked for TIC, or is very delusional about the value of California public schools.

Then you know nothing about the mentality of Asian immigrants...especially rich ones.  The schools are the only reason why a rich person in Taiwan or Korea would send their kids to the US. 

 

[usctrojancpa]

Indie came up with the term chindian. I felt left out so came up with the term korchindian.

No love for the European FCBers???  How about eurokorchindian?

 

[IndieDev]

There was a thread about Indie asking why someone wouldn't want to like in CDM (or places like the Ports Streets) and it's terms like Chindian that people who are Chinese/Indian, etc don't feel welcome with open arms.

Honestly, I think it's the median price point more so than any fears of being called a Chindian.

 

[IndieDev]

Is somebody going to give me the name of one those Korean blogs already? I want to get some of that FCB money driving up my home value. And those kiddies can attend our school all they want. The more the merrier, as long as they are dropping the green in my 'hood.

Nothing, huh?  Oh well,  I suppose the silence must means those Korean language blogs which discuss the great public schools of Southern California are only a myth, much like a unicorn.  Damn, and here I thought I was on to something.

Yeah they are a myth like $1.2 million dollar pricing strategies.

I've never heard of anything more silly than super rich Chindians moving their entire households overseas just  so they can attend California Public Schools (LOL) when they can afford one on one tutoring from PhDs within their own country who speak PERFECT english. How many IUSD teachers have PhDs? 0.01%? Less?

Honestly, Kalbi must have worked for TIC, or is very delusional about the value of California public schools.

Aren't many of those PhD tutors in China actually Americans?

Yup. Europeans too. Back in 2007 I was staying in one of the rooms of my business partners home in Shenzhen. His 13 year old daughter was being taught Geometry by a PhD who graduated from Utrecht University (go ahead and look up the world ranking of that university).

Why would someone who can afford that type of tutoring ever want to move their children into a house in Irvine to attend 40 kid classrooms in at Woodbridge, or Uni High?

It's unreal to me to think that people actually believe that California public schools could be coveted by the super rich in asia. That's simply not true, I work with these people to make my living, and it's just not a realistic scenario.

 

[IndieDev]

Then you know nothing about the mentality of Asian immigrants...especially rich ones.  The schools are the only reason why a rich person in Taiwan or Korea would send their kids to the US.

I'd be willing to bet that I know a LOT more super rich Chindians than you do, and I'd be willing to bet you if I asked them how much they covet California Public Schools, they'd agree with my general opinion and laugh at yours.

 

[Irvinecommuter]

Then you know nothing about the mentality of Asian immigrants...especially rich ones.  The schools are the only reason why a rich person in Taiwan or Korea would send their kids to the US.

I'd be willing to bet that I know a LOT more super rich Chindians than you do, and I'd be willing to bet you if I asked them how much they covet California Public Schools, they'd agree with my general opinion and laugh at yours.

We're not talking about the California public school system as a whole.  We're talking about a few select school/district, including Irvine.  I can guarantee that if you talk to immigrants from Asia, the public school system is a big factor.

 

[Irvinecommuter]

Indie came up with the term chindian. I felt left out so came up with the term korchindian.

They call me an egg, and I don't feel offended at all.  Kind of honored, actually.

Well...you do have yellow fever

Maybe true, and that is a common tag because of who I ended up settling with.  However, my fever (as with most gentlemen I know) extended to white, brown, black and so on in my youth.  Never was a target for a certain culture, just anyone and everyone.  Just happened to work out that I started dating this one at the same time I was in the "get married" phase.  But it was certainly not because she was Asian by any stretch. In reality, I hardly could hold chopsticks when we started dating, and bought a pair of starter ones and used to practice with them in my studio apartment so I would impress her.  I was 27 at the time.  I had never even heard of kpop back then, and can actually remember my (future) wife sending me an email with a link to Lee Hyori and FinKL, asking what I thought of it and "do you think these girls are hot"?.  I'm like "wtf is this, and what have I been doing looking at crap like Britney Spears all these years!" (this was 1999, mind you).

So of course, over the last 12 years my wife has certainly shaped my view of things, no doubt.  But that does not mean I don't still think Rihanna is hot.

But After School is just okay right

 

[IndieDev]

Then you know nothing about the mentality of Asian immigrants...especially rich ones.  The schools are the only reason why a rich person in Taiwan or Korea would send their kids to the US.

I'd be willing to bet that I know a LOT more super rich Chindians than you do, and I'd be willing to bet you if I asked them how much they covet California Public Schools, they'd agree with my general opinion and laugh at yours.

We're not talking about the California public school system as a whole.  We're talking about a few select school/district, including Irvine.  I can guarantee that if you talk to immigrants from Asia, the public school system is a big factor.

Maybe marginally wealthy who can't afford one on one tutoring from a PhD, or get their kids into prestigious schools like Yu Cai High School in Shanghai. Yes, they may send their kids abroad as a backup or second choice. But if you asked the average Shanghai parent which school would they rather send their kid, Yu Cai High School, or Uni High in Irvine, the answer 100 times out of 100 would be Yu Cai and not Uni.

 

[IndieDev]

Then you know nothing about the mentality of Asian immigrants...especially rich ones.  The schools are the only reason why a rich person in Taiwan or Korea would send their kids to the US.

I'd be willing to bet that I know a LOT more super rich Chindians than you do, and I'd be willing to bet you if I asked them how much they covet California Public Schools, they'd agree with my general opinion and laugh at yours.

I agree with both of you guys.  Indie is certainly right about the super-rich.  We know some super rich Taiwanese, and they live in Crystal Cove.  They think about Irvine the same way white people in PV think about Torrance.  No Irvine public school is going to convince them to pay $1M for a 4 bed home sitting on a motorcourt with the back wall of the neighbors home 10 feet away. But maybe that is the problem --- the definition of rich.  The FCB's concerned about public schools (and no doubt many are) are probably not at all "rich", just upper middle class like most of newer* Irvine.  They may have a lot of "cash" to put down --- but enough cash for an Irvine home certainly does not = rich.

*If your address includes the words Ridge or Shady and you have no common walls, you are exempt from the middle class tag.

And that's why the opinion that FCBs are going to flood or "crowd" Irvine public schools is so ridiculous. The amount of people who could truly utilize this type of visa, where you can live here if you buy a $500,000 home, but you can't work here, is probably fractionally small. I don't know many immigrant families who could afford to live in Irvine with no way of making income here, and those that can afford that type of lifestyle can afford better schooling where they actually live.

Public schooling is truly a middle class concern. This reminds me of the time NonFCB was claiming that Shady Canyon, and Turtle Ridge pricing was supported by the excellent "public schools" in the area. Really? People who can afford $2,000,000+ million dollar homes care about public schooling?