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Panda said:
It is October 25th, 2011. Irvine is 67 degrees and Johns Creek is 74 degrees... Weather seems damn fine to me. :)

For now. I used to travel to business twice a year (a week at a time) to the ATL in December and January and it was very cold.  Seemed much colder than it was here in LA/OC.  Ive been out there in the summer as well and it was pretty humid.
 
qwerty said:
Panda said:
It is October 25th, 2011. Irvine is 67 degrees and Johns Creek is 74 degrees... Weather seems damn fine to me. :)

For now. I used to travel to business twice a year (a week at a time) to the ATL in December and January and it was very cold.  Seemed much colder than it was here in LA/OC.  Ive been out there in the summer as well and it was pretty humid.
In PandaWorld... one day counts for the entire year. :D
 
Qwerty,
There is no place in the U.S. with southern california's mediterrean weather. That is why it is such a hot destination for all the FCBs out there. But Atlanta's weather is much better that the east coast and the midwest in my opinion. Here is the high and low weather comparision between Johns Creek and Irvine.

                      Jan    Feb      Mar  Apr  May    Jun    Jul    Aug    Sep    Oct    Nov    Dec
Irvine              68      69        69    73    75      79    84    85      84    79      73    68
                      41      43        45    48    53      57    60    61      59      53      45    40

Johns Creek    50      55        63    71    78      84    88    86      81    72      62    53
                      29      32        38    45    54    62    67    66      60    47      39    32


qwerty said:
Panda said:
It is October 25th, 2011. Irvine is 67 degrees and Johns Creek is 74 degrees... Weather seems damn fine to me. :)

For now. I used to travel to business twice a year (a week at a time) to the ATL in December and January and it was very cold.  Seemed much colder than it was here in LA/OC.  Ive been out there in the summer as well and it was pretty humid.
 
IHO, I would love to have debate with you which city is better. One needs to see and evaluate the whole package. You want to start a new thread Irvine vs. Johns Creek?
 
Panda said:
IHO, I would love to have debate with you which city is better. One needs to see and evaluate the whole package. You want to start a new thread Irvine vs. Johns Creek?
No need.

You already lost... it's not Irvine.

#winning
 
L-A-M-E  :(

I will even give you one head start...

weather - irvine wins.

We can debate: per capital and household income, job growth, business and property taxes, housing, schools, famliy safety, Asian groceries and retailers, entrepreneurial soil, etc. you name the categories.



irvinehomeowner said:
Panda said:
IHO, I would love to have debate with you which city is better. One needs to see and evaluate the whole package. You want to start a new thread Irvine vs. Johns Creek?
No need.

You already lost... it's not Irvine.

#winning
 
Panda said:
L-A-M-E  :(
See... you even agree. Although I wouldn't use that word to describe John's Creek... it's better than that.  8)

And even though PatStar is out of UnicornLand, he's still on the WESSAYYEEED as he recognizes the many great things that SoCal living brings.

But... I'll concede one point to you... price.

However... let me quote Jessie J:

"Forget about the pricetag...."

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxX-QOV9tI[/youtube]

"Ain't about the cha-ching, cha-ching..."
 
kalbi said:
IndieDev said:
irvinehomeowner said:
I guess I say that because my assumption is they aren't really buying it for their own living and therefore do not come back and forth that often.

You don't need a visa to "vacation" in SoCal.

Plus if you read the article, which Kalbi apparently didn't, they aren't getting "Green cards", they won't be able to seek employment here, or receive any benefits of being a citizen (SS, mc, etc). In fact, I don't know how they'd be able to sign up for public schooling. It's really just an "extended stay card" for really rich people. How many foreigners could really stay here without any ability to seek employment?

IndieDev - where does it say in my post that they are getting "green cards??" You really have some serious reading comprehension issues.  If you read the article, it says qualified foreign buyers can bring their spouse and children with them.  Since they have a valid visa, they are able to attend [public schools using that visa.

Example, many Asian foreigners apply for student visas.  Once they obtain the student visa, their minor children will also get visas under the parent.  The holder of the student visa only needs to attend a "language school" and their children can attend public schools here tax free.  The student visa is valid for 5 years. 

Haven't you heard of the the korean "golden goose" where the mom and kids are sent here and the dad sends money for the kids to go to school here? If they are unable to resident alien status, most either go with investment visas or student visas.

Do some research before you post!!!

I did my research and I know for a fact that filthy rich FCBs (the only ones who would even utilize this type of visa) aren't going to be "flooding" public schools just because they can now buy an extended stay visit to the U.S.

More fear mongering and ridiculously drawn conclusions from Kalbi.
 
kalbi said:
for the education. irvine is actually pretty well known in asian countries like korean, taiwan, and china.  there are actually alot of blogs and websites in these languages that discuss irvine and irvine's schools. 

plus, irvine's mayor sukhee kang is korean and has brought a lot of attention to irvine among the korean community.

LOL

Because filthy rich asians would rather bring their entire households here so their kids can be put into 40 student per classroom Irvine schools instead of receiving one on one private tutoring from PhDs in their own countries. That makes a lot of sense.

Kalbi is the 2nd most funniest poster here before NonFCB.
 
Indie- again, if you do your due diligence before you talk out of your ass, you will find that filthy rich asians still love to have their children learn English the right way. Yes, they can pay arm and leg for private tutors but sending their kids here will in their minds give them a leg up in a competitive job market in which English speakers are coveted.

Obviously don't know anything about these filthy rich asians because you are not one and will never be one considering your lack of intelligence.
 
And another point, in most Asian countries, you need to pass a strenuous entrance exam to get into a good high school. An alternative for those who can't get in come to the states.

 
Indie- no need to resort to insults when you don't agree. That won't get you anywhere. And show us the research you are always referencing??

Just because I question he validity of your conclusory statements does not mean you should resort to cyberbullying.  Seriously, we are not in high school. Forums are meant for discussion. Not everyone has to agree, that's the beauty of discussions.

 
kalbi said:
Obviously don't know anything about these filthy rich asians because you are not one and will never be one considering your lack of intelligence.

Well it's also because of the fact I'm not asian, intelligence aside.

You're still still full of shit, and full of fear mongering if you think an army of Korean, Chinese, and Taiwanese rich kids are going to take all the "public school spots" from the poor American kids in Irvine. I actually work daily with filthy rich foreign asians, believe it or not, who trust me with ten of millions of dollars U.S worth of their assets, and I know for a fact they don't covet "public schooling" in the U.S. In fact, I've never heard of a sillier, xenophobic, racist claim in my entire life.
 
Did I ever say that they are going to flood our classrooms? Our classrooms are already near max capacity and we do not need fbc children to add to our burden!

You seriously have a knack for taking people's statements and turning them around to support your contentions. I sure feel bad for those filthy rich Asians who allegedly entrust millions of dollars in your illogical and nonsensical hands.

You are so predictable... If you have don't have evidence to support your statements, you resort to underhanded insults. Very professional!
 
kalbi said:
You seriously have a knack for taking people's statements and turning them around to support your contentions.

Oh really?

[quote author=kalbi]JUST freaking great.  More FCB's kids will crowd or classrooms and don't have to pay!!!! [/quote]
 
I actually didn't follow that comment from Kalbi, because, all property owners are required to pay property tax and I think in Irvine, that qualifies you to attend the IUSD school system.  So its not the progeny of the FCB that is going to be getting anything for free as the new home owner will be paying the admission fees.

While I know its only 1 data point, I know a family that moved from Japan to Irvine about 18 mths back, net-worth likely in the high single-digit millions or low double-digit millions and so could afford any private school they wanted to.  Chose the US public school system (Irvine) for its reputation only to move out of the area and into another school system in So Cal where they then purchased a home.  So not everyone is enamored by the IUSD schools enough to overpay for the homes, or accept the downside (lessened budgets and over-crowded classrooms)
 
Whoa...heated discussion.  I can only speak to what I know from Taiwanese and too a certain extent Korean immigrants.  Irvine is a big deal and the schools are "famous" (for lack of a better term).  Part of it is the perceived perception with UCI and University High does have some carry.  About 10-15 years ago, there was an influx of ABTs who went back to Taiwan to become pop star.  One of the selling points was that they went to good schools like Uni high.

The other point is that Asian do not usually put their kids in private schools.  Due to the belief in the public school systems in Asia, immigrants believe that good public schools are the way to go.  In SoCal, Uni, Whitney (Cerritos), and Sunny Hills (Fullerton) are big magnets for Asians.  Up north, Mission San Jose (Fremont), Lowell (SF), and Cupertino/Homestead are big among the Asian community. 
 
Also, let's not forget the "parachute kids" phenomenon a few years back...people buying property in the US just to have their kids go to a good school. 
 
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