[quote author="NewportSkipper" date=1252026878][quote author="awgee" date=1252026534][quote author="NewportSkipper" date=1252025746][quote author="awgee" date=1252025652][quote author="graphrix" date=1252024511][quote author="NewportSkipper" date=1252023709]Irvine has barely budged in 2009 and there is <strong>no capitulation</strong>.</blockquote>
ROFLMAO! :lol: That is so not true. Foreclosure stats keep increasing for Irvine every single month. 912 are in some stage of foreclosure right now. Just a month ago I was shocked Irvine broke the 800 mark, a few months before that it was the 700 mark, just a few months before that is was the 600 mark. And, yes, the REOs have increased significantly in Irvine. Maybe Cayci was right, loan mods mostly apply to the flyover states, and Irvine with its above conforming loan amounts is getting shafted.</blockquote>
If NS is talking about prices in Irvine, he is correct in that there are some sections of Irvine in which the price has actually increase a bit. See Ipo's thread. But, Irvine is not indicative of the overall market, especially the long term overall market. And NS is correct in that capitulation has not been reached. It is not even close. There are still way too many folks looking for and professing the bottom is in.</blockquote>
This theory has always intrigued me: that only when no one thinks the bottom is in, the bottom is in. Where did that gem come from?</blockquote>
Just some fool named Warren Buffet.</blockquote>
Did 100% of people think the bottom was reached when the stock market hit 8,000? Did it go up or down since then?</blockquote>
No one said 100%. Capitulation is about the masses and the minority. Anyways, it is obvious you want to hold on to your mindset. Good luck.