30 Day Fitness Challenge 2015
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The Motor Court Company
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can't take semi nude selfie at work guys; plus my ab is not as good as your calf.
will try though
will try though
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socal78
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I was driving along this evening when a Mexican man walked across the road in front of my car. His calves. They were almost a dead ringer. I just about crashed my vehicle, straining to get a better look. I stopped just before I hit him. Upon closer inspection they were not as nice as Qwerty's. Bummer. I almost ran over the wrong guy.
The Motor Court Company
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so I've replaced egg whites and chicken breast with other protein sources with higher fat content, like salmon, sardines, steak...etc. the amount of fat required for keto diet is incredible; you literary have to drink oil to meet it -> butter, coconut oil, mayo...
but definitely I have lost some strength and explosiveness in the gym when I weight train. so I cannot wait until my carb up day to replenish glycogen - I need to eat things that are high in carb, low in fat and protein (donuts are out). 700 grams of carb for my body weight in 24 hrs, or 18 cans of 8 Oz Coke. I guess I will drink soda as water on my carb up day lol....
So this will be my weekly schedule, 3 days of HIIT(weight train + glycogen depletion), 3 days of MISS (maintenance), 1 day of carb up. I am debating to do the carb up the 7th day into my new keto diet (since I lost strength) or wait until the 14th day (to make sure body is in fully keto mode) to start the 7 day cycle.
but CKD is kinda great actually, you get to eat high fat meat for 6 days (65% calories from fat, 30% from protein, 5% from carb), and literary no restrictions on sugary stuff on day 7 (70% from carb, 15% fat, 15% protein but also g/lb lean body mass, so overall high calorie intake)...
but definitely I have lost some strength and explosiveness in the gym when I weight train. so I cannot wait until my carb up day to replenish glycogen - I need to eat things that are high in carb, low in fat and protein (donuts are out). 700 grams of carb for my body weight in 24 hrs, or 18 cans of 8 Oz Coke. I guess I will drink soda as water on my carb up day lol....
So this will be my weekly schedule, 3 days of HIIT(weight train + glycogen depletion), 3 days of MISS (maintenance), 1 day of carb up. I am debating to do the carb up the 7th day into my new keto diet (since I lost strength) or wait until the 14th day (to make sure body is in fully keto mode) to start the 7 day cycle.
but CKD is kinda great actually, you get to eat high fat meat for 6 days (65% calories from fat, 30% from protein, 5% from carb), and literary no restrictions on sugary stuff on day 7 (70% from carb, 15% fat, 15% protein but also g/lb lean body mass, so overall high calorie intake)...
irvinehomeowner
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@TCCC:
So wait, a high-fat diet is good for you? I must be doing something wrong.
So wait, a high-fat diet is good for you? I must be doing something wrong.
The Motor Court Company
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we gain fat if we have calorie surplus. not fat surplus. but as Farmmie pointed out, it is really difficult to gain muscle while losing body fat. below is why
typical human body lives on glucose for energy. after you eat, insulin level will spike up to convert excessive glucose (blood sugar) into glycogen (stored in liver and muscle). when blood sugar is low, glycogen is converted to glucose. So in this form of metabolism, the body prefers glucose, and when it is depleted, turn glycogen into glucose, finally when that's gone too, body fat AND muscle as last resort. you cannot produce glucose from fat but you can from protein(muscle). So losing fat usually comes with losing muscle mass.
On the other hand, if we deplete the human body with glucose/glycogen long enough, the body will adapt and turn fat into the primary fuel. At this state, it will burn fat from your own body fat and from diet very efficiently. Since it does not need glucose, the muscle will not break down to turn into glucose.
However, when the body is adapted to burn fat as primary fuel, it is difficult to build up muscle, because you need resistance training. but without glycogen/glucose, it is difficult to maintain that strength needed to do the heavy lifting. That's what carb loading is for - enough carb to give the muscle strength to build, but not high/long enough to keep the body out of fat burning mode.
typical human body lives on glucose for energy. after you eat, insulin level will spike up to convert excessive glucose (blood sugar) into glycogen (stored in liver and muscle). when blood sugar is low, glycogen is converted to glucose. So in this form of metabolism, the body prefers glucose, and when it is depleted, turn glycogen into glucose, finally when that's gone too, body fat AND muscle as last resort. you cannot produce glucose from fat but you can from protein(muscle). So losing fat usually comes with losing muscle mass.
On the other hand, if we deplete the human body with glucose/glycogen long enough, the body will adapt and turn fat into the primary fuel. At this state, it will burn fat from your own body fat and from diet very efficiently. Since it does not need glucose, the muscle will not break down to turn into glucose.
However, when the body is adapted to burn fat as primary fuel, it is difficult to build up muscle, because you need resistance training. but without glycogen/glucose, it is difficult to maintain that strength needed to do the heavy lifting. That's what carb loading is for - enough carb to give the muscle strength to build, but not high/long enough to keep the body out of fat burning mode.
irvinehomeowner said:@TCCC:
So wait, a high-fat diet is good for you? I must be doing something wrong.
irvinehomeowner
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@TCCC:
Man, sounds complicated.
Seems like you and Farmmie know what to do but to me it's like Greek or Common Core Math.
I miss the days where I could just eat whatever, play basketball every day and not worry about protein/fat/carb/type of exercise equations.
Man, sounds complicated.
Seems like you and Farmmie know what to do but to me it's like Greek or Common Core Math.
I miss the days where I could just eat whatever, play basketball every day and not worry about protein/fat/carb/type of exercise equations.
The Motor Court Company
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they just like long big cylinder shaped male body parts; big calf, big bicep, big bat?
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The Motor Court Company
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yes I painstakingly count every gram of carb, protein and fat that I eat daily. Every single food.
During my 6 day cycle, I eat 1 gram per lb of lean body mass, and match that with the same amount of fat per day. So 160 g protein + 160 g of fat, as little as carb as possible for 2100 calories (running deficit to reduce body fat). equal fat and protein intake means I am at the optimal calorie split between fat and protein and not losing too much muscle.
I also have to spread out my protein, making sure each meal is less than 30 g.
On carb day, I need 160 g protein (15% calorie), 750 g of carb and 71g fat for 4200 calories. it turns out fat and protein are easy to meet; carb is not unless I drink soda and slurpee all day.
During my 6 day cycle, I eat 1 gram per lb of lean body mass, and match that with the same amount of fat per day. So 160 g protein + 160 g of fat, as little as carb as possible for 2100 calories (running deficit to reduce body fat). equal fat and protein intake means I am at the optimal calorie split between fat and protein and not losing too much muscle.
I also have to spread out my protein, making sure each meal is less than 30 g.
On carb day, I need 160 g protein (15% calorie), 750 g of carb and 71g fat for 4200 calories. it turns out fat and protein are easy to meet; carb is not unless I drink soda and slurpee all day.
The Motor Court Company
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did SoCal just watch 50 shades? this thread is turning into something else...
SoCal said:It has been 10 MINUTES!!!!! What is taking so long!
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You're shaving your chest, aren't you! I knew it.
This is getting uncomfortable, maybe she should just message him for pics.
The California Court Company said:did SoCal just watch 50 shades? this thread is turning into something else...
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You're shaving your chest, aren't you! I knew it.