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irvinehomeowner said:
scubasteve said:
This thread should be renamed to.. "who lives in WBE? Please respond so we can crucify you" =)
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Well... everyone is a critic.

Good to see you post every now and then... I recall you hurt yourself... are you okay now?
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Wow... I'm really impressed w/ your memory IHO (considering that  I haven't posted here in forever).  The knee feels like it's brand new again (I tore my meniscus and ACL about a year and a half ago).  I'm not sure if you heard of Crossfit, but it's doing wonders for my rehabilitation. 

I don't visit this site too often anymore since I bought my place 2 years ago, but everything is going well! A lot has happened in the past two years since I settled down in WBE... Had a baby boy, repaired my knee and I'm about to graduate from B school.  How's your quest for that 3-Car garage going?  The last I remember, you were living somewhere off of Culver and Walnut right?
 
I recall your injury because I've had similar ones (ACL in one knee, meniscus in the other). I've heard of Crossfit... some friends do it... part of that muscle confusion trend. My ACL was many moons ago... but I remember that rehab was the most important thing... I went 3 times a week for 6 months. I had some friends who had the same injury but neglected the rehab and continue to have problems to this day.

Still searching for the 3CWG... but Irvine is stubborn.

Congrats on the kid... fatherhood is awesome. And congrats on B school... I always admire people who extend their education because I can't stand school in my elder years.
 
The home price in general does go down about 4%, but the new homes hold up better than the older homes.

irvinehomeshopper said:
I do agree with W4ever accessment the price decrease is not because of WE but generally a correction to the WTF pricings fueled by pend up demand. For the same price today one could buy a detached home with a driveway. LR is one of such competition to TIC and so will the Greatpark. TIC will eventually have to deliver better products at a much lower price point not having the monopoly advantage.
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Sellers of older homes are willing to deal because of equity insulation. Sellers could take a huge discount while sellers of newer homes have little equity and can't afford to discount the homes at a loss.


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irvinehomeshopper said:
I do agree with W4ever accessment the price decrease is not because of WE but generally a correction to the WTF pricings fueled by pend up demand. For the same price today one could buy a detached home with a driveway. LR is one of such competition to TIC and so will the Greatpark. TIC will eventually have to deliver better products at a much lower price point not having the monopoly advantage.

The home price in general does go down about 4%, but the new homes hold up better than the older homes.
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One of the best thing about WE is MR is the lowest among all the new villages, even SGE, a smaller village, MR is higher than that of WE.
 
irvinehomeshopper said:
I do agree with W4ever accessment the price decrease is not because of WE but generally a correction to the WTF pricings fueled by pend up demand. For the same price today one could buy a detached home with a driveway. LR is one of such competition to TIC and so will the Greatpark. TIC will eventually have to deliver better products at a much lower price point not having the monopoly advantage.

This is what I see in the future:

Small lot detached homes with driveway by pushing the house footprint toward the yard.  There will not be enough room behind the garage for the Greatroom but may be just some extra depth to the garage for a workshop or storage. To monetize this extra depth may be a fancy term to make all garages of older homes obsolete to prevent buyers from looking at older housing stock. Could there be a California Garage in the making? By then RKP would kick himself because his home will have a dated floor plan.
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there are a ton of NWP homes that have awesome floorplans.  i wasnt after the floorplan as much as i was about the dated look and feel of the communities.  if it wasnt for the location, TR looks super crappy and should be much cheaper.  the drive is great but once you turn into any of the numerous little squares, you realize quickly that irvine had the same concept of maximizing profits even back then.  the houses kiss the curb and their is just no curb appeal. 

drive down hyde park in north tustin and thats how a street with old houses should feel.  honestly IHS, you like old neighborhoods like pasadena and yet you suggest TR as acceptable.  i dont get that one.  tell me i should be looking at north tustin, villa park, etc and i will understand but TR...i just dont get it
 
I think most people here only like Turtle Rock/Ridge, Quail Hill and maybe Northwood II. The rest are junky communities to them. Unfortunately, the reality is that a lot of us cannot afford the prices in their "favorite" communities.

waitin4ever and scubasteve: Don't feel bad. It's all about timing. If you felt the timing was right at that time, don't look back. Just enjoy your homes! I think if your homes are not so close to Sand Canyon, it's not that bad...
 
irvinehomeshopper said:
I don't think most of you understand the aesthetic of Pasadena so I am stooping really low to meet your need. TR is the best of Irvine and still light years from ideal.
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you sound like my indie music friends who believe what they listen to is always better than whats produced for the masses.  when it comes to a house, i just care if i like it and more importantly, if my wife likes it.  pasadena is gorgeous but i cant dissect it like you can house by house and know what makes something classic and something a patch job.  i can only say which houses i like and which are ugly

i didnt realize you thought TR was only best of irvine...i always got feeling that you thought it was something great.  so if folks were to broaden their search to neighboring cities, what are the best from your POV? 
 
If you are referring to aesthetic, landscape, property diversities, articulation of fences, scale, proportion, streetscape, human scale, timelessness, material authenticity, and etc then I can recommend many places for you. However, It seems like you are just looking for a hype brand like the rest of the materialistic whores all over Irvine stated in the posted linkhttp://laist.com/2012/04/27/irvine_is_americas_most_fashionable.php
You are already looking at all the right places.

rkp said:
irvinehomeshopper said:
I don't think most of you understand the aesthetic of Pasadena so I am stooping really low to meet your need. TR is the best of Irvine and still light years from ideal.
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you sound like my indie music friends who believe what they listen to is always better than whats produced for the masses.  when it comes to a house, i just care if i like it and more importantly, if my wife likes it.  pasadena is gorgeous but i cant dissect it like you can house by house and know what makes something classic and something a patch job.  i can only say which houses i like and which are ugly

i didnt realize you thought TR was only best of irvine...i always got feeling that you thought it was something great.  so if folks were to broaden their search to neighboring cities, what are the best from your POV? 
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RKP sincerely I feel you want to do the right thing and LR still bothers you because of the environmental issues. There is a slight hesitation on your part. Having grown up in the Valley you might have seen what is the better aesthetic for a neighborhood like your parents' West LA home built around the era of the 1920s and residents overtime brought the neighborhood up to date with renovations. No renovations could do a makeover if the bones are bad, property size is limited and an HOA that can't understand progress outside the confine of beige stucco and red tile roof. The eclecticism your admired at the westside also represented a bohemian attitude that irvinites can't seem to understand or grasp based on your very own personality trait or similarly others who share the fear of home repair and maintenance. Home repair and maintenance to the Westside Bohemians are not a chore but rather a passion. Along with this passion is the desire to be different to instill their very own personalities into the home renovations that truly reflect the way they want to live with quirks, unusual mud rooms and all sorts of other unconventional set ups are uniquely their own identity with idiosyncrasy that define who they are. Along with this movement the delight of visiting neighbors' homes come with surprises and intrigues unlike homes in Your interested region your neighbors' home is predictable, mundane, repetitive and ordinary. We all have seen that floor plan a million times and over. It is like a stale relationship and the same missionary position.

Chindians are herd pack  and they are afraid to stand out or speak up due to their upbringings and cultural depression. I get it. Being told what to do or how you live by your parents, teachers, elders and to certain tongue and cheek inclusive of developers and their marketeers defining the way you must live. This is not a criticism. It is your culture and there must be a leader other than yourself to dictate. I know you want to do the right thing for your family. Schools and safety trump aesthetic, property size, privacy, identity and etc.

Look at what your property will look like in 30 years. Has any Irvine property sustain its youthfulness and timelessness. The answer is an overwhelming no just like your own criticism of homes in Irvine's older and established neighborhoods. The RKPs from 30 years ago swore their homes were the best from their era. Fast forward 20 years your new homes will follow the historical precedent.  It will be dated because of style, detailing, materials, vinyl windows and specification. You can't escape that Irvine houses don't grow old gracefully unlike your parents home in the Westside. With this notion rather than picking your home pick a neighborhood that is most timeless like Turtle Rock. I said again it is not my favorite but the best in Irvine reflecting mother nature's timelessness rather than a ticking time bomb at the trash dump. Several millions of articles have been written on the risks and no one would do that if uncalled for or no suspicions. The TR homes suck just like Cinderella's 2 sisters and so will your new home in 20 years. I know in 20 years which home would still be desirable and occupants still be in better health.
 
Lots of wise words there. So true on every account.
I think rkp accepts that in order to live in Irvine, he pretty much has to compromise something. But it is not very smart to lower your standard and live that close to a landfill.

irvinehomeshopper said:
"who share the fear of home repair and maintenance."

"your neighbors' home is predictable, mundane, repetitive and ordinary."

"Chindians are herd pack  and they are afraid to stand out or speak up due to their upbringings and cultural depression."

"Schools and safety trump aesthetic, property size, privacy, identity and etc."

"Fast forward 20 years your new homes will follow the historical precedent.  It will be dated because of style, detailing, materials, vinyl windows and specification."

"rather than a ticking time bomb at the trash dump. Several millions of articles have been written on the risks and no one would do that if uncalled for or no suspicions"
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First time poster, long time lurker...
Live in WE now, it's not so bad (for a rental), friendly community. Previously lived in NPS and NWII and this seems to be a friendlier community. Motor court and size of home sucks.  The traffic on Sand Canyon is horrible though and very noisy.  I don't think that I would ever buy a place here
 
welcome  Marty, had you been a homeowners would your testimony be in a different tone to admit you made a terrible decision or to upbeat a bit just to make yourself feel a little bit better?
 
it would have been a terrible decision if i bought because I did not realize how much traffic was on Sand Canyon and how noisy the garbage trucks and rice rockets are at all times of the day.  Our neighbor is a retired couple and that is their only compliant. 
 
Though carbon monoxide is odorless, the smell comes from sulfur oxide in car exhaust gas mixture. When you do not smell sulfur, it is very likely that carbon monoxide is not there.


test said:
scubasteve said:
Wow. So many haters here!  Well I bought in WBE like W4E did and I'm pretty happy.  No smell of carbon monoxide whatsoever nor can I hear any noise from the 133. 
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I hope you realize carbon monoxide is odorless.  If I can't smell it, it must not be there!  *FACEPALM*
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that's why I value feedback from renters more than from the homeowners. Renters are not yet settled, pickier (in terms of the best living situation for the money, unlike home owners, who often bought non ideal homes due to timing) and most importantly, no skin in the game. For the times I visit Stonegate East and Woodbury East, the road noise does bother me a lot if I am close enough to Sand Canyon or 133. On one occasion I literally felt the ground trembling as a heavy 18 wheeler drove by. To be fair with Lambert Ranch, the toll road noise is not as nearly as bad there; more of an eye sore than anything else.

Marty Kahn said:
it would have been a terrible decision if i bought because I did not realize how much traffic was on Sand Canyon and how noisy the garbage trucks and rice rockets are at all times of the day.  Our neighbor is a retired couple and that is their only compliant.
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