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[quote author="bkshopr" date=1241141150]Mahogany I designed in 1996. now selling for $1.5 million.



3 car garage in Irvine selling for $1.5 million



Both have same footage similar size yard



They are both resales. Lot sizes are similar as well. One is narrow and deep the other is wide and shallow.



Those of you are trying to apply land mathematic made the wrong assumption I was not referring to new homes.



Mahagony lot width is 60'x150'=9,000sf. The street and Right of Way in front of the home is 60'x57"=3420 sf. The total land used for home and street was 9,000+3420=12,420 sf. Mahogony lot is 1,000 sf bigger



Standard Pacific's Summit project is 80'x100'=8,000sf. The street and right of way in front of the home is 80'x57'=4560 sf.

The total land used for home and street was 8,000+ 4560=12,560 sf. Summits lot is 1,000 sf smaller because the 1,000sf was wasted for the longer street.



Value of the homes are the same because developer calculate the street into the selling price. Both properties has similar yard size. Consumer get a bigger lot at Mahogany. The extra 1,000 sf in Mahagany compensates for IR's comments so the back yard for both are the same.



Both properties are currently listed for $1.5 mil.</blockquote>
Wow... your post-fu is strong. You edited in it the middle of my response.



I was just going to say that by the looks of the pictures... they can't have the same lot size unless the 1st has zero backyard.



And your math is still suspect, you're bringing in right of way and street footage to obfuscate the issue.



What do the floorplans look for these houses? And the lot plans. And what is the square footage of the houses themselves? Bd/Br count?



A picture from the front speaks of the attractiveness of the house but we are going to need more information to determine the other things people are concerned about.



And how is an 8000sft lot the same size as a 9000sft lot? There you go with that new math again.
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1241146690][quote author="bkshopr" date=1241141150]Mahogany I designed in 1996. now selling for $1.5 million.



3 car garage in Irvine selling for $1.5 million



Both have same footage similar size yard



They are both resales. Lot sizes are similar as well. One is narrow and deep the other is wide and shallow.



Those of you are trying to apply land mathematic made the wrong assumption I was not referring to new homes.



Mahagony lot width is 60'x150'=9,000sf. The street and Right of Way in front of the home is 60'x57"=3420 sf. The total land used for home and street was 9,000+3420=12,420 sf. Mahogony lot is 1,000 sf bigger



Standard Pacific's Summit project is 80'x100'=8,000sf. The street and right of way in front of the home is 80'x57'=4560 sf.

The total land used for home and street was 8,000+ 4560=12,560 sf. Summits lot is 1,000 sf smaller because the 1,000sf was wasted for the longer street.



Value of the homes are the same because developer calculate the street into the selling price. Both properties has similar yard size. Consumer get a bigger lot at Mahogany. The extra 1,000 sf in Mahagany compensates for IR's comments so the back yard for both are the same.



Both properties are currently listed for $1.5 mil.</blockquote>
Wow... your post-fu is strong. You edited in it the middle of my response.



I was just going to say that by the looks of the pictures... they can't have the same lot size unless the 1st has zero backyard.



And your math is still suspect, you're bringing in right of way and street footage to obfuscate the issue.



What do the floorplans look for these houses? And the lot plans. And what is the square footage of the houses themselves? Bd/Br count?



A picture from the front speaks of the attractiveness of the house but we are going to need more information to determine the other things people are concerned about.



And how is an 8000sft lot the same size as a 9000sft lot? There you go with that new math again.</blockquote>


I did not say the lot sizes are exact just similar. Mahogany is on 9,000 sf Summit is on 8,000 sf. Summit has exact size back yard as Mahogany. Summit has efficient plan but wasted more street 1,000 sf.



Mahogany has wasted long drive but the extra 1,000 sf took care of it. It requires less street frontage.



In land development every home buyers must pay for their share of the street eventhough he does not own it. I would rather have the street in my lot. Wide lot house meant longer street.
 
Summit



http://www.trulia.com/property/1078207372-21-Galileo-Irvine-CA-92603





Mahogany



http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:KF9NO_ElUjoJ:www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/2-Mahogany-Dr-92620/home/4788797+Mahogany+Irvine&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:XoYJ4rkEVKoJ:www.catalisthomes.com/searchDetail.aspx?PropertyId=20722554+Mahogany+Irvine&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/22-Canyonwood-92620/home/4788814



The Mahogany listing has numerous granny flat and detached studio upgrade thus resulting in more footages offered as standard footages.
 
Chalk this up as a consumer quirk, but I would never buy a porte cochere home. Either me or my wife would inevitably back into one of the pillars and simultaneously damage our car and our house. Knowing how much that would piss me off, I would rather avoid the whole situation and not buy a house like that.



I do think those designs are more attractive and have better functionality, but I would not buy one for my own stupid reasons.
 
[quote author="IrvineRenter" date=1241151664]Chalk this up as a consumer quirk, but I would never buy a porte cochere home. Either me or my wife would inevitably back into one of the pillars and simultaneously damage our car and our house. Knowing how much that would piss me off, I would rather avoid the whole situation and not buy a house like that.



I do think those designs are more attractive and have better functionality, but I would not buy one for my own stupid reasons.</blockquote>


WTF? Are you driving while Asian?
 
So does that long driveway/street to the Mahogany model belong to the homeowner? If you take the palm tree out... that's some nice parking for my guests... or a full court basketball game.
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1241152930]So does that long driveway/street to the Mahogany model belong to the homeowner? If you take the palm tree out... that's some nice parking for my guests... or a full court basketball game.</blockquote>


Yes and more. Plenty of parking in your own lot and basketball court when the cars are not present. That house is on a flag lot and the owner of the house owns everything. See the aerial for a better understanding of the lot configuration. The other listings are more representative of the typical lot. For the same price as Summit these home has much more upgrade in optional added footage such as granny flat, studio, bedroom over porte cochere. This lot size is much bigger than the Summit and many more bedrooms and baths. The benefits are obvious!
 
[quote author="High Gravity" date=1241135062][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1241105475]There is one house in Portola Springs I like. Exactly one. In fact, it's the only home in Irvine I have any desire to own.



You got a picture of that house, BK?</blockquote>


As a PSer, I'd be honored to have you as a neighbor. You'd love it here. We have a fantastic view of the hangars at VOC that I know you'd appreciate.</blockquote>


<a href="http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/local/article_1275100.php">Baby, I'd have an INCREDIBLE view of the hangars and Bee Canyon Landfill.</a>
 
[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1241158079][quote author="High Gravity" date=1241135062][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1241105475]There is one house in Portola Springs I like. Exactly one. In fact, it's the only home in Irvine I have any desire to own.



You got a picture of that house, BK?</blockquote>


As a PSer, I'd be honored to have you as a neighbor. You'd love it here. We have a fantastic view of the hangars at VOC that I know you'd appreciate.</blockquote>


<a href="http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/local/article_1275100.php">Baby, I'd have an INCREDIBLE view of the hangars and Bee Canyon Landfill.</a></blockquote>


Good taste Grumpy old man! I knew exactly the one. Lambert was the foreman for the Irvine Family agriculture . During the teens it was cheaper to give away houses and land as bonuses than cash.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1241160213][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1241158079][quote author="High Gravity" date=1241135062][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1241105475]There is one house in Portola Springs I like. Exactly one. In fact, it's the only home in Irvine I have any desire to own.



You got a picture of that house, BK?</blockquote>


As a PSer, I'd be honored to have you as a neighbor. You'd love it here. We have a fantastic view of the hangars at VOC that I know you'd appreciate.</blockquote>


<a href="http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/local/article_1275100.php">Baby, I'd have an INCREDIBLE view of the hangars and Bee Canyon Landfill.</a></blockquote>


Good taste Grumpy old man! I knew exactly the one. Lambert was the foreman for the Irvine Family agriculture . During the teens it was cheaper to give away houses and land as bonuses than cash.</blockquote>


The Lambert house is too modest for the wealth of the sisters although the location gives them a bucolic view of the pesants picking fruit below. The Lambert house reminds me of the Rowland house nestled above Pathfinder, strangely out of place but an in-your-face reminder of the past.
 
[quote author="Serious Weapon" date=1241152513][quote author="IrvineRenter" date=1241151664]Chalk this up as a consumer quirk, but I would never buy a porte cochere home. Either me or my wife would inevitably back into one of the pillars and simultaneously damage our car and our house. Knowing how much that would piss me off, I would rather avoid the whole situation and not buy a house like that.



I do think those designs are more attractive and have better functionality, but I would not buy one for my own stupid reasons.</blockquote>


WTF? Are you driving while Asian?</blockquote>


I think I've mentioned before the considerable amount of damage that has been done to plants and cars in my in-laws driveway in the back leading to the 4 car garage. The cars get bigger, the driveway doesn't and none of us seem to be getting any smarter ;-P .
 
[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1241158079]

<a href="http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/local/article_1275100.php">Baby, I'd have an INCREDIBLE view of the hangars and Bee Canyon Landfill.</a></blockquote>


Thanks for the article. I pass this plot and see the house every day - I always wondered what it is. Good to know.
 
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