Villages of Columbus - Columbus Square - Camden Place

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[quote author="asianinvasian" date=1237341517][quote author="tkaratz" date=1237013279]My opinion though is that woe to you if you bought a unit facing valencia. Once the loop is completed and tustin ranch road is connected (who knows when though), you'll basiclly be living next to a class II highway (think Red Hill).</blockquote>


I think you are confusing Valencia with Tustin Ranch Road. Valencia won't see much traffic.</blockquote>


Actually, I think you could look at the Yale Loop (running through Woodbridge) or perhaps some other parts of Yale, as a good indicator of what Valencia should become. After reading through the 260+ page Tustin Marine Corps Incorporation Proposal plan, or whatever its titled in its latest revision, it should strike a nice balance between ease of use and differing main traffic to Redhill and Jamboree (just like main traffic quickly diverts to Culver and Jeffrey). There will be a number of stoplights/stopsigns and its winding nature should keep things relatively calm. The wide landscaping designs and plentiful trees should make it relatively unobtrusive.



I grew up with my backyard bordering Yale for a number of years, and its not really that bad.
 
[quote author="MojoJD" date=1237419744]From what I understand, the Harley riding in between the houses could constitute a violation of the homeowners association rules. After reading about the parking and this, I think we need a tough enforcement policy in the community, as was suggested in an earlier post. I might start getting pro-active on this once I move in.</blockquote>


I agree that Camden needs tighter parking enforcement as residents are definitely taking advantage currently, however the last thing I think we all need is a permit based parking system.



I think the community needs to schedule garage examinations in order to realize just how many residents use their garage for storage and park three cars in the guest spots.



As for the harley, it's always irritating when you see a harley parked in a parking spot. I mean, can you really not fit that in your garage?



Nevermind, i'm just ranting. I can't wait to move into a SFH.
 
I dont want a permit system either. The garage inspection should be sufficient, and worked wonders at an apartment community where I used to lived.
 
[quote author="MojoJD" date=1237420038][quote author="asianinvasian" date=1237341517][quote author="tkaratz" date=1237013279]My opinion though is that woe to you if you bought a unit facing valencia. Once the loop is completed and tustin ranch road is connected (who knows when though), you'll basiclly be living next to a class II highway (think Red Hill).</blockquote>


I think you are confusing Valencia with Tustin Ranch Road. Valencia won't see much traffic.</blockquote>


Actually, I think you could look at the Yale Loop (running through Woodbridge) or perhaps some other parts of Yale, as a good indicator of what Valencia should become. After reading through the 260+ page Tustin Marine Corps Incorporation Proposal plan, or whatever its titled in its latest revision, it should strike a nice balance between ease of use and differing main traffic to Redhill and Jamboree (just like main traffic quickly diverts to Culver and Jeffrey). There will be a number of stoplights/stopsigns and its winding nature should keep things relatively calm. The wide landscaping designs and plentiful trees should make it relatively unobtrusive.



I grew up with my backyard bordering Yale for a number of years, and its not really that bad.</blockquote>


Only time will tell, but Yale is a loop road through an almost 100% residential area surrounded by almost 100% residential whereas the Valencia loop will connect higher use areas such as Columbus Square, the district, the mixed use district and is surrounded by 100% industrial and office.



Red Hil and Jamboree are over traffic'd streets during rush hour and with the new tustin ranch road going in, alot of that traffic will be diverted through valencia onto the new tustin ranch extention road. In addition, I don't think any stop sign intersections are planned for valencia road, there would have been one at columbus square and valencia which tells us two things, one it's planned as a high traffic road and two, if there are only traffic lights, they will likely be on a circuit and the loop will be prefered by commuters.
 
[quote author="MojoJD" date=1237423209]I dont want a permit system either. The garage inspection should be sufficient, and worked wonders at an apartment community where I used to lived.</blockquote>


So i'm confused, why would a garage inspection system be more effective than permits? Yes garage inspections will confirm that people aren't using their garage for storage, but without permits to distnguish residents from guests, residents can still park in guest spaces without enforcement. I think you would need an inspection to confirm full use of garage and if they had additional cars, they get a permit.



Are you suggesting that no resident be allowed to have more than two cars ?( I think this isn't preferable but would realisticly be more enforceable)



Also are you more irked by the residents parking in the internal guest spaces or on the street? (i don't like either)
 
Some people will have 1 car, others may have 3. I dont think you can really go around telling them they cant have a third car. The main point of the garage inspection is to make sure that those 2 internal spots are being used for that. If everyone makes full use of both spots, the LEGITIMATE surplus cars wont take up that much space. Or thats the idea, anyway.



The problem with the permit system is that you have to rely on the offending residents to place a permit on their car in the first place. They could circumvent the permit system by just not participating, thereby leaving no way to distinguish their cars from a guest car. The only way you can really make that work is a complicated system with a guest parking pass, live guard, etc. And thats not really feasible for a townhome community - cost-wise.
 
[quote author="MojoJD" date=1237446044]Some people will have 1 car, others may have 3. I dont think you can really go around telling them they cant have a third car. The main point of the garage inspection is to make sure that those 2 internal spots are being used for that. If everyone makes full use of both spots, the LEGITIMATE surplus cars wont take up that much space. Or thats the idea, anyway.



The problem with the permit system is that you have to rely on the offending residents to place a permit on their car in the first place. They could circumvent the permit system by just not participating, thereby leaving no way to distinguish their cars from a guest car. The only way you can really make that work is a complicated system with a guest parking pass, live guard, etc. And thats not really feasible for a townhome community - cost-wise.</blockquote>


Well, the way around fencing off the community is by not allowing any parking on community streets or guest parking spaces from the hours of, for example, 2am to 4am, unless that car is safe listed or has a permit on it. By safelisted i mean the homeowner provides the patrol company with the make model and liscence plate of their guests car, and the patrol company is responsible for not towing that car along with not towing the cars with stickers. All other cars would be towed. Obviously, a home owner could not get a permit or not register their car with the HOA but if their vehicle is being safe listed every night, that would raise a red flag.
 
[quote author="tkaratz" date=1237429748][quote author="MojoJD" date=1237420038]

Actually, I think you could look at the Yale Loop (running through Woodbridge) or perhaps some other parts of Yale, as a good indicator of what Valencia should become. After reading through the 260+ page Tustin Marine Corps Incorporation Proposal plan, or whatever its titled in its latest revision, it should strike a nice balance between ease of use and differing main traffic to Redhill and Jamboree (just like main traffic quickly diverts to Culver and Jeffrey). There will be a number of stoplights/stopsigns and its winding nature should keep things relatively calm. The wide landscaping designs and plentiful trees should make it relatively unobtrusive.



I grew up with my backyard bordering Yale for a number of years, and its not really that bad.</blockquote>


Only time will tell, but Yale is a loop road through an almost 100% residential area surrounded by almost 100% residential whereas the Valencia loop will connect higher use areas such as Columbus Square, the district, the mixed use district and is surrounded by 100% industrial and office.



Red Hil and Jamboree are over traffic'd streets during rush hour and with the new tustin ranch road going in, alot of that traffic will be diverted through valencia onto the new tustin ranch extention road. In addition, I don't think any stop sign intersections are planned for valencia road, there would have been one at columbus square and valencia which tells us two things, one it's planned as a high traffic road and two, if there are only traffic lights, they will likely be on a circuit and the loop will be prefered by commuters.</blockquote>


Well, if you want to stay away from Valencia this phase is your last chance. The next (and last) phase is next to Valencia again.
 
So I just got my house appraised because I'm refinancing. I have a plan 1, and turns out my home's value has increased 1.4% since I purchased in 2007. Whoopeeeee.
 
[quote author="Shooby" date=1238108737]So I just got my house appraised because I'm refinancing. I have a plan 1, and turns out my home's value has increased 1.4% since I purchased in 2007. Whoopeeeee.</blockquote>


Appraisers now are automatically taking 10% off the actual appraised value. So you probably gained 11.4%.
 
[quote author="Shooby" date=1238108737]So I just got my house appraised because I'm refinancing. I have a plan 1, and turns out my home's value has increased 1.4% since I purchased in 2007. Whoopeeeee.</blockquote>
Just more proof that there still are idiot appraisers in the system. From what I remembered, you take a class and pass a test and you become an appraiser (how about the states require some educational degrees?).
 
I just dont like that plan 2 floorplan anyway. The second floor is the main issue. Having the dining room area is great, but that leaves ALL THAT SPACE in the "great room" part of the townhome... for what? How many extra couches and tables can you really go out and buy to put in there? I also think no bath in the master is a dealbreaker for some people.
 
[quote author="MojoJD" date=1238627189]I just dont like that plan 2 floorplan anyway. The second floor is the main issue. Having the dining room area is great, but that leaves ALL THAT SPACE in the "great room" part of the townhome... for what? How many extra couches and tables can you really go out and buy to put in there? I also think no bath in the master is a dealbreaker for some people.</blockquote>


Really? The model homes shows a dining table in the great room, that seem to work... having a dining table in between the "living room" and the kitchen.



Ya I didnt like not having a bath in the Master but I'm guess people dont take "baths" much anymore
 
<blockquote>Really? The model homes shows a dining table in the great room, that seem to work... having a dining table in between the "living room" and the kitchen.</blockquote>


So now you have 2 dining tables? one on the dining nook and one in the great room? I guess.... I just dont feel like thats a good use of space.



<blockquote>Ya I didnt like not having a bath in the Master but I'm guess people dont take "baths" much anymore</blockquote>


Tell that to my easily-chilled wife.



Dont get me wrong, I like the plan somewhat. If they expanded the 3rd floor to make the master suite bigger, with a bigger closet (another flaw- small as it is), bath, and a little more space between the 2 rooms, it would be fantastic.



On a side note: Has anyone had to replace the cabinetry or do any repair work on the cherry wood bathroom cabinets? The newer models only have that nice dark wood in the kitchen and master bath, but a whitepanel wood in the lower floor bathroom cabinets. Its not even an option (which I would gladly pay). I'm just worried about matching the wood and exact style to what is already in the kitchen if I were to go do it myself from Lowes. Can we contact the builder post-sale to use the same materials and doors?
 
[quote author="RedElmo" date=1238631639][quote author="MojoJD" date=1238627189]I just dont like that plan 2 floorplan anyway. The second floor is the main issue. Having the dining room area is great, but that leaves ALL THAT SPACE in the "great room" part of the townhome... for what? How many extra couches and tables can you really go out and buy to put in there? I also think no bath in the master is a dealbreaker for some people.</blockquote>


Really? The model homes shows a dining table in the great room, that seem to work... having a dining table in between the "living room" and the kitchen.



Ya I didnt like not having a bath in the Master but I'm guess people dont take "baths" much anymore</blockquote>


Whomever designed plan two did not do a through review as evidenced by the very low ceiling on the first floor stairs
 
True. But then again, the biggest blunder of all is the plan 3 media nook being way off closer to the kitchen and stair entrance, rather than where the fireplace is. It forces you to mount over the fireplace, or have to watch TV from afar and at an angle. Did anyone really stop and think that through? Plan 2 has the media nook in a better spot, and I think plan 1 may have the most accommodating design in that regard.



Oh well, over the fireplace I go. I'm looking in to extending arms with a height adjustment feature. My goal is to be able to pull out and then lower the LCD closer to eye level of someone sitting on the couch. I have found a few things online, but I don't know how far the tv would stick out from the wall in its resting/home position.
 
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