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I agreed Lawyer liz....a supervisor make a tremendous difference in your daily work life. If you get one that is a control freak and micro-managed....you won't learn anything. It takes a certain kind of people to be a good supervisor, just like it takes a certain person to be a good teacher.



It is hard to balance life with work and family.
 
<p>Working for NASA isn't so bad. It just depends upon what you do. I used to work in Houston designing experiments for the shuttle and other things. It was lots of fun.</p>

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<p>Now working for Los Alamos, that wasn't very fun. Lots of REALLY cool stuff, lots of completely retarted administration and management. It wasn't for the greater good of this country anymore, it was the greater good of a POLITICAL agenda. I honestly say that 50% of those people should be fired anyway.</p>

<p> This is why I went contractor. I'd work like a slave, but I'd get paid, very, very well. And just when I got fed up, I move on to another contract (with a 1 month vacation of course).... After a few years and getting married though I had to change my lifestyle significantly.</p>

<p>-bix</p>
 
I have considered Edwards and know some alumni that work there but I have since moved away from Orange County (thinking about coming back thus participation in this forum). Yes, IIA is a good resource...I am thinking about joing a local CPA firm. Not sure yet though because a part of me wants to get into sales or account management.



Yes, I agree with the supervisor statement. Currently, I think my manager is too much of a macro-manager because I really don't know what's going on and how my work contributes to the organization as a whole.



Mann, what a day...I feel like I am going to the DMV everyday.
 
<em>Mann, what a day...I feel like I am going to the DMV everyday.





</em>thats a great line. i'm gonna use that from now on to describe a bad day.





hey, how'd your date go last night? <em>ugh, man it was DMV.</em>
 
I studied Physics in college but my work is totally unrelated to my degree. I enjoy my job by studying people and their lifestyle. I know that I could not survive in a technical world full of mathematical formulas and charts so I made a career change many years ago. I apply my analytical skill in the observation of our built environment and how people react to them. I found happiness in my unusual job and my family.



You need to work in an office that has competition and reward for hard work like a promotion and bonus or simply some praise. You are not working in the right office because you do not have a personality of content and laziness. Our government is sluggish because of your co-workers. Pack up you bag and work for a private sector where you actually have clients.



If job security is important for you then shift your goal of success in your family if you have one. I am assuming that you have one because S&S does not target singles and empty nester as its demographic. Do you live in Tuscany or Renaissance? Must be extremely windy there?



Pick up a hobby that takes a lifetime to master and not something that you will get bore with it soon.
 
>Any suggestions on the a hobby that will take a lifetime? Something that doesn't cost alot of money, thanks!





Nude's hobby fits the bill.
 
Walk into the nearest public library. Walk to the first set of stacks on the left and grab the first book that is on the top shelf and closest to the aisle you just walked in from. Check out that book. Read it. Go back to the same area and grab the second book in. Check it out and read it. Wash, rinse, repeat until you finish all the books in the library.
 
Thanks bkshopr for your comment(s). I really appreciate everyone on this forum pitching in with their comments.



I currently live in the Meadows community in Porter Ranch. Thinking about leasing it and moving on to another home, maybe in the Simi Valley area (prices are dropping for newer homes quickly here, seen some low as 30% off last sold price at the peak).



Yes, I would enjoy some security so now am I pondering whether it's the type of work I am currently doing (IT project mgmt) and not the work environment. The government organization I currently work for is large so there are other departments thus possible transfer opportunities.



Have any of you had any experience with the following professions?



Financial Advisor - for a large firm like UBS or ML

Commerical Real Estate Broker - for a firm like M&M
 
not to say those arent both good professions but neither are exactly hot jobs at the moment -- at least not to jump into if you ahvent already been doing it. commercial property is not goign to fare any better than residential housing. vacancies are on the rise. one of the major commercial re brokerages is in the same bldg as i am and they recently laid off a lot of staff and moved the rest into other offices. several whole floors are now being subleased. as for financial advisor, unless you already have a potential client base with some whales, it'll be a tough job for the near-term. the avg investor is simply too wary of the financial mkts right now.
 
bkshopr's advice is the most sound. Determine what makes you truly happy. Personally my life is a continuous feedback loop - I need to be happy personally to be successful professionally, and each begets the other. If you are competitive you likely value professional confirmation through increased pay and responsibilities.



I have an engineering degree but went straight into sales. Like bk, I couldn't see myself competing in an R&D world. I found that a combination of leadership skills and an engineering degree created a skillset with little competition that is always in demand. Also like bk I was once a Physics major, but I suspect our Physics curriculum wasn't quite as brutal as Harvey Mudd!



IF you are ultra competitive, driven and have an extroverted sales personality, an FA or Comemrcial RE Agent is a good career. Both are 100% commission. Whatever you do, make sure that you are first completely happy in your personal life. Everything flows from your own sense of well-being.
 
<p class="MsoNormal">Everyone comes from different backgrounds. Environment dictates ones interest and confidence in the things that one does. In my case I grew up poor in the inner city of Los Angeles as immigrant I did not have access to materialistic things as my hobby. My mother did not speak any English nor learn to drive. I tagged along with her at the sweat shops in downtown skid row so I can help her to complete her long laborious endless tasks of sewing and trimmings. Public transportation and looking out the windows of the buses became my hobby. Walking neighborhoods and learning architecture became my learning passion. Because I lived in neglected neighborhood learning the languages and syntax of my built environment gave me tools to survive. I developed a keen sense of perception and instinct for defensible space and places of danger. I apply the lesson from my childhood to articulate to planners and architects in designing attractive and safe environment. My life long hobby is all free. </p>

<p class="MsoNormal">On the days I was not working and ditched school I rode buses to the classic neighborhoods of Southern Ca to see beautiful homes and the manicured lawn and parkways. I learned about architects who designed many of the classic homes. Some were modern and most were traditional. When I became older in high school I asked my mother to allow me to take a real part time with pay. She agreed and it must be a job that I could acquire knowledge. Flipping burger was out of the picture although I was envious of my classmates who took jobs at the McDonalds at 7<sup>th</sup> and Hill St in Downtown. I got a job working at the Grand Central Library of LA. I was exposed to the homeless people who religiously came to the library for shelter and read. Many amazingly were smart people with mental and addiction issues. Working in Fiction but I wandered off to the stacks of Arts and Architecture to read antique architectural and art books and periodical. Collecting antique books and French Barbizon period arts became my life long passion. I spent endless hours as a loner all my life going to museums and architectural self guided tour to advance my learning from my own analysis. Other than my collecting addiction everything else was free. </p>

<p class="MsoNormal">French Barbizon period was an era of 1830’s where the French artists refused to produced highly detailed portraits and painting for the royalty in a studio environment. They went to the French countryside to paint peasants’ farm life and natural landscape outdoor capturing the striking color and beauty of the sky. Since lighting condition outdoor change very quickly so artist learned to place a quick time limit to accomplish their art. They developed a fast technique that only emphasized the main impression and not so much of the laborious details. Later the students of the Barbizon painters became the French impressionistic master like Renoir, Degas, Pissarro, and Monet. </p>

<p class="MsoNormal">One hobby could open doors to other hobbies. My striving for knowledge started with the first book that Eva mentioned as an example at the library. Architecture eventually led me to building codes and zoning issues. Aesthetic and limitation to creativity bound by rules set by our government and fire authority.</p>

<p class="MsoNormal">LA conservancy is another hobby where people care about history and preservation of architectural landmarks to enrich the knowledge of younger generations about our city’s past. </p>

<p class="MsoNormal"> Although I have been a loner in my personal life I spend a lot of time studying people and analyzing their preference in spending and lifestyle. I had to develop a keen sense of instinct to read people in order for me to survive on the street of LA near Hollywood, Rampart, and Highland Park vicinities. </p>

<p class="MsoNormal"> There are a lot of good and bad people out on the streets and I have seen them all. I was offered a free ride several times by the same man near by my school. He sponsored immigrant families with lots of photos at his home in Echo Parks. I had him dropped me off at location 5 blocks from my home and pretended I lived in that house by sitting at the front porch and later walked home after he drove off. Months later he was on the local news for child molestation. </p>

<p class="MsoNormal"> My previous experiences have been the basis and premise for which I built my career around. I intertwined my hobby and analytical skills in my line of work helping companies to succeed in delivering products fitting the intended demographic.</p>

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<p>Me, Troop. I used to do real estate closings. Which I liked. Plus business-y stuff and some probate. Which I also liked. The closings are basically gone, and I'm doing real estate litigation, which I would have anyway, because my main client is a developer--who is not selling any houses. I like the theory, but hate dealing with judges. You think that people like Bush and Spitzer are weird? Just try dealing with judges. They are more like that imbecile who presided over the child custody case of the starlet--can't think of her name--married to the old guy--who is buried with her son in the Bahamas---urgggh, than the distinguished types in most courtroom dramas.</p>

<p>The clients want to know what you think, and you can't predict an outcome, because the judges are so whimsical, and some of them are outright ignorant. One non stupid judge apparently just decides on the basis of who he feels sorrier for. Then you have the ones who are malicious, or try to rule in favor of their friends, or who don't feel like reading the case law I so carefully and expensively found. . .</p>

<p>OK, rant over, but you asked. I am thinking about just closing the office and retiring. But then I wouldn't have any stories to post!!</p>
 
<p>Boston,</p>

<p>I studied Physics at Harvey Mudd of the Claremont Colleges. I liked the undergraduate lifestyle there but I was not in control of my life and did not have any mentor while I was growing up. I was lost for a long time before finding my path. Good to hear that you found your direction too.</p>
 
<p>Liz, </p>

<p> One of my first previous jobs was as a accident reconstruction engineer. That is where I first learned that judges are not exactly the law experts everybody makes them out to be. Just as a rule, I try to avoid them because they know other judges and lawyers in their hip pocket. This can make life very, very difficult. </p>

<p>The more I think about it, the more I just want to sell these apartments and move on.</p>

<p>good luck</p>

<p>-bix</p>
 
bk,

I graduated in computer engineering from USC. My undergrad experience was overrall incredible, but rocky. Once I managed to gain the right vision of my future (courtesy of some invaluable mentors) all the pieces fell into place. I found the social atmosphere at USC helped develop the right "soft skills" to succeed in the corporate world.
 
<p>As someone who's worked in both public and private sector, I would say that your job satisfaction quotient depends on what phase you are in your life. Before I had kids, I spent a better part of 10 years working in the municipal sector and 3 years consulting for them. I was restless and bored out of my mind. I rose quickly and burned out quickly too, not because of job stress, but because of pure boredom. </p>

<p>Several years ago, I left again for the private sector. I love my job, but with a family now to raise, I would say that all things considered, I would park it in public sector so that I could concentrate my time on my family. Money isn't a motivating factor for me any longer. While I love what I do, I would love to go in at 9 and leave at 4pm with no travel involved. I would love to be able to drop my son off from daycare and pick him up early. I would love to leave my work at work and not be tied a to Blackberry and phone. I would love to go on a real vacation without wondering what the market is doing and how my clients are reacting. Frankly, I'd like to turn off instant access and response.</p>

<p>That said, I do believe that govt workers are slugs and that labor contracts perpetuate the employment of employees that should have been let go years ago. Govt does help full employment with those that truly would not be employable otherwise.</p>
 
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