Toyota moving to Texas

NEW -> Contingent Buyer Assistance Program
The carrot and not the stick....

The blue state depression

People are leaving the Hillary-supporting states in droves
When I say the blue states are in a depression, I don?t mean the collective funk they are in because they lost the election to Donald Trump.
I?m talking about an economic depression in the blue states that went for Hillary. Here is an amazing statistic. Of the 10 blue states that Hillary Clinton won by the largest percentage margins ? California, Massachusetts, Vermont, Hawaii, Maryland, New York, Illinois, Rhode Island, New Jersey, and Connecticut ? every single one of them lost domestic migration (excluding immigration) over the last 10 years (2004-14). Nearly 2.75 million more Americans left California and New York than entered these states.
They are the loser states. They are all progressive. High taxes rates. High welfare benefits. Heavy regulation. Environmental extremism. Super minimum wages. Most outlaw energy drilling. The whole left-wing playbook is on display in the Hillary states. And people are leaving in droves. Day after day, they are being bled to death. So much for liberalism creating a worker?s paradise.
Now let?s look at the 10 states that had the largest percentage vote for Donald Trump. Everyone of them ? Wyoming, West Virginia, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Kentucky, Tennessee, South Dakota, and Idaho ? was a net population gainer.
This is part and parcel of one of the greatest internal migration waves in American history as blue states especially in the northeast are getting clobbered by their low tax, smaller government rivals in the south, southeast and mountain regions.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/4/the-blue-state-depression/
 
If you're buying food cooked on top of a shopping cart, I think you're well aware of the implications.  However I do understand that drunk ass people coming out of clubs at 2am arn't making the best dietary decisions.

Especially when Pinks has a line 3 rows deep.
 
eyephone said:
morekaos said:
Tijuana or Los Angeles?



http://www.laweekly.com/news/trump-inspires-effort-to-legalize-la-street-vendors-7643404

Trump Inspires Effort to Legalize L.A. Street Vendors

You mean the vendors that cook and sell food from a shopping cart. (Don't get me wrong not all do, but man they need to crack down for health safety)

This has been in the works for a while already and is not really Trump inspired (although the desire to antagonize him might finally get this passed). Street vendors are ubiquitous in LA already and they might as well legalize and regulate.

That's the best way to get a great fruit salad in the city anyways ...
 
The point here is that Cali is de-voluting into a third world country, except at Elisium (silicon valley)
 
And as much as I admire the entrepreneurial spirit of these people I question the quality and quantity of their small business' ability to contribute overall to the Cali economic powerhouse.
 
LOL, you guys must not travel much (or maybe only to Tijuana). In many large cities in the US (9 out of 10 of the largest allow it - guess which one doesn't) and all over the developed world there are legal street vendors.

 
peppy said:
LOL, you guys must not travel much (or maybe only to Tijuana). In many large cities in the US (9 out of 10 of the largest allow it - guess which one doesn't) and all over the developed world there are legal street vendors.

Key word is legal
 
eyephone said:
peppy said:
LOL, you guys must not travel much (or maybe only to Tijuana). In many large cities in the US (9 out of 10 of the largest allow it - guess which one doesn't) and all over the developed world there are legal street vendors.

Key word is legal

LOL. You first clutch your pearls at the prospect of legalizing street vendors and make it sound akin to devolving into a third world country and now you argue that the one thing differentiating LA from the rest is that it is not legal.

?No comprende ingl?s?
 
In the context of this thread, legal or not, replacing Jacobs Engineering jobs with legal street vendors is not a very even steven trade...no?
 
morekaos said:
In the context of this thread, legal or not, replacing Jacobs Engineering jobs with legal street vendors is not a very even steven trade...no?

Only in your alternate reality where you can equate the two.



 
It is an extreme comparison used to make a point. The ratio of quality jobs created (in Elisium) vs. the jobs we are discussing here (in LA) is growing further and further apart as companies flee the state for friendlier states and we are left with cheap fruit salad on every corner.  Not a good trade off.
 
morekaos said:
It is an extreme comparison used to make a point. The ratio of quality jobs created (in Elisium) vs. the jobs we are discussing here (in LA) is growing further and further apart as companies flee the state for friendlier states and we are left with cheap fruit salad on every corner.  Not a good trade off.

So essentially a strawman argument. At least you admit it.



 
Not when our politicians prioritze legalizing street vendors over trying to keep Fortune 500 companies from fleeing our state. The trend is not our friend on this one.
 
morekaos said:
Not when our politicians prioritze legalizing street vendors over trying to keep Fortune 500 companies from fleeing our state. The trend is not our friend on this one.

Well, you can make that argument about virtually anything. Why are we wasting money on space exploration when there are children starving in the conutry? It shows a very simplistic, sequential grasp of how things work.
 
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